One claim is changed, see below.
On Fri, 2014-11-28 at 12:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> Hello,
> In summary:
> a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is installed should be
> kept.
> b) New installs should get systemd-sysv as default init with a debconf
> message about alternative ini
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 07:15:08PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> One claim is changed, see below.
>
> On Fri, 2014-11-28 at 12:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > Hello,
>
> > In summary:
> > a) Upgrades should _not_ change init: whatever is installed should be
> > kept.
> > b) New installs shou
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 20:14 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 07:15:08PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > One claim is changed, see below.
> >
> > On Fri, 2014-11-28 at 12:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > > Hello,
> >
> > > In summary:
> > > a) Upgrades should _not_ change i
On 29-11-2014 19:40, Svante Signell wrote:
[...]
> This is another nail in the Universal OS coffin: Let's move to devuan,
> please! Use Debian as upstream (as long as it lives)
>
> Yes, next Debian release is lendows, not jessie :(
Thanks! We appreciate less noise on these lists and on the next
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 20:40 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> This is another nail in the Universal OS coffin: Let's move to devuan,
> please!
You are of course free to do that. This discussion is about what Debian
should do, however. If you wish to discuss Devuan, please do so in a
more appropriate
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 20:19 +, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
> On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 20:40 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > This is another nail in the Universal OS coffin: Let's move to devuan,
> > please!
>
> You are of course free to do that. This discussion is about what Debian
> should do, howev
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 08:14:07PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 07:15:08PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > One claim is changed, see below.
> > On Fri, 2014-11-28 at 12:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > > In summary:
> > > a) Upgrades should _not_ change in
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 21:27 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
> But it does not seem like you are realizing what is
> happening unfortunately. Debian will not be as it was historically due
> to this issue. Maybe the new DDs are to young to learn from history?
Please don't patronise people. Just because
On 2014-11-29 21:30, Steve Langasek wrote:
Debian releases when it's ready. If large numbers of our users are
going to
have a bad experience with jessie as a result of being switched to
systemd,
then we should take appropriate steps to address that, even if that
means
unfreezing the installer
On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 22:01 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
> On 2014-11-29 21:30, Steve Langasek wrote:
> > Debian releases when it's ready. If large numbers of our users are
> > going to
> > have a bad experience with jessie as a result of being switched to
> > systemd,
> > then we should take appr
2014-11-29 22:25 GMT+01:00 Svante Signell :
> On Sat, 2014-11-29 at 22:01 +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
>> On 2014-11-29 21:30, Steve Langasek wrote:
>> > Debian releases when it's ready. If large numbers of our users are
>> > going to
>> > have a bad experience with jessie as a result of being switc
Hi Steve,
Steve Langasek writes:
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 08:14:07PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
>> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 07:15:08PM +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
>> > One claim is changed, see below.
>
>> > On Fri, 2014-11-28 at 12:56 +0100, Svante Signell wrote:
>> > > Hello,
>
>> > > In summ
Hi,
Philip Hands:
> P.S. For those that think there's no choice when installing:
>
> https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Installing_without_systemd
>
> I'd suggest that anyone that knows enough to have an opinion about their
> preferred init will be able to manage that simple extra step with ease.
On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 12:30 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote:
> On Sat, Nov 29, 2014 at 08:14:07PM +0100, Philipp Kern wrote:
> > That's even more unlikely than to add a debconf message (which would be
> > package-owned). Yes, debian-installer is frozen. This would add new
> > udebs, new strings, new
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