Bug#1978: man: default pager should be less

1995-12-08 Thread Raul Miller
Emilio C. Lopes: IMHO, the problem is with "more" not with "man". One must not try to adapt a good program just to make it work together with a deficient one (still IMHO, of course). This is more a matter of interface definition than anything else. more can go backwards only on seekable f

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-08 Thread Raul Miller
Another possibility is to have an unreadable directory named 1.0, with instructions in the README file on how to navigate through it. The idea being, if you don't read the instructions you don't see the files. -- Raul

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-08 Thread Raul Miller
Perhaps we should adopt a different naming convention for unreleased versions. E.g. instead of 1.0, call it 0.93+0.07, or 0.9x-unstable. -- Raul

Re: debian-1.0 availability

1995-12-08 Thread Bruce Perens
> [wuarchive] systems/linux/tsx-11/distributions/debian/debian-1.0/sources > is empty !!! I thought the GPL only required you to provide the sources _when_someone_asks_for_them_. We did learn a lesson today. Thanks Bruce -- Dirk Eddelb|ttelhttp:/

Default organization: is there a site config file?

1995-12-08 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, I am in the process of packaging dist-3.60, and one of the config parameters is the organization of the local site (one of the suggested locations: /etc/organization). I rooted around on my machine, and discovered the file /etc/news/organization, which was presumably put th

Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-08 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Bruce Perens writes: Bruce> Yes, a code name would be a good idea. Let's hold off on that until Bruce> Ian Murdock can do it - I've stuck my neck out enough today. We could also "hide" in private/project. -- Dirk Eddelb|ttelhttp://qed.econ.queensu.ca/~edd

Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-08 Thread Bruce Perens
Yes, a code name would be a good idea. Let's hold off on that until Ian Murdock can do it - I've stuck my neck out enough today. Thanks Bruce -- Visit the "Toy Story" Web Page! http://www.toystory.com

Re: ncurses for ELF released

1995-12-08 Thread Jeff Noxon
I wrote: > I've been waiting for this, waiting, waiting, and now it's out! Hmm, that's the first time an autoreply has gone back to the list instead of the original author. Guess it'll teach me to check twice.. :) Jeff

Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-08 Thread David Engel
> I think we should deprecate 1.0 and bump the version number to 1.1, so that > authentic copies of the release are not confused with the one on the Infomagic > CD. Sound like a good idea, however, I would go one step further and remove the version number completely (and possibly go with a code n

bumping the version number

1995-12-08 Thread Bruce Perens
I think we should deprecate 1.0 and bump the version number to 1.1, so that authentic copies of the release are not confused with the one on the Infomagic CD. I still haven't heard from Ian Murdock, who is moving his residence and no doubt busy. Does anyone have a way for me to reach him?

Re: debian-1.0 availability

1995-12-08 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Robert Leslie writes: Robert> I don't know about other mirrors, but AFAICT tsx-11.mit.edu Robert> doesn't even carry the 0.93R6 release any more. It only offers Robert> debian-1.0. It's getting jucier by the minute: This domain has a local wuarchive mirror. Wuarchive mirrors tsx-11, alo

ftp arrangement changed

1995-12-08 Thread Bruce Perens
I took it upon myself to move debian-1.0 to ALPHA-TEST/debian-1.0 and make the "development" symbolic link point at that. I'm sorry about what this will do to the mirror sites, and I'm sorry to mess with the FTP arrangement, which isn't my job. Thanks Bruce -- Visit the "Toy Story

ncurses out within the hour...

1995-12-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
I'll be uploading the new shared-lib ELF ncurses package(s) within the hour (just as soon as I rebuild the dist files to get rid of a few spurious nohup.out files I left behind...). I think I've got all bases covered, but I'd certainly not mind having a few especially adventurous souls looking

Re: debian-1.0 availability

1995-12-08 Thread Robert Leslie
I don't know about other mirrors, but AFAICT tsx-11.mit.edu doesn't even carry the 0.93R6 release any more. It only offers debian-1.0. -- Robert Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Bill Mitchell
> > > If the ncurses guys are going to keep blowing off binary compatibility, > > > then perhaps we should not mess with ncurses at all. > > I suspect, especially now that we've got the package load spread around > > more, that Debian will be able to keep up. > I'm just concerned that this is a l

Bug#1991: gnuplot has no 'fig' or 'bfig' terminal

1995-12-08 Thread Dirk . Eddelbuettel
Package: gnuplot Version: 3.5 Revision: 3 gnuplot's term.h has the define for FIG commented out. So no 'fig' or 'bfig' terminals for the portable fig graphics language can be generated. That's a pity as Debian has the xfig and transfig packages to use fig graphics. It compiles fine with FIG defin

Re: debian-1.0 availability

1995-12-08 Thread brian (b.c.) white
>I was going to suggest with all these people querying about 1.0 that we have >an an account on ftp.debian.org with access to debian-1.0 directory so we >lock out normal public ftp access. I myself have noticed quite a few people >coming in and nabbing 1.0 packages thinking that they were the ones

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-08 Thread Bruce Perens
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl Ferguson) > I also feel that with 1.0 and all the new developers (myself included) that > all the normal users out there that would like to use 1.0 because of all the > new packages in there. However, if we dont leave open 1.0 to people who > arent devolpers (but wish

Bug#1978: man: default pager should be less

1995-12-08 Thread Emilio C. Lopes
> "Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Another option might be to have man point more at the catman file rather than at a pipe. more can go backwords if it's given a seekable file. IMHO, the problem is with "more" not with "man". One must not try to adapt a good program just

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-08 Thread Bruce Perens
PLEASE DON'T POST TO PUBLIC FORUMS ABOUT THIS ISSUE. PLEASE LEAVE THAT UP TO IAN MURDOCK AND MYSELF. WE SHOULD HAVE ONE COHERENT STATEMENT ON THIS, WHICH MEANS ONE PERSON GETS TO MAKE THAT STATEMENT. I spoke with Kim at Infomagic. Yes, they've pressed a CD with 1.0 on it, along with other distribu

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-08 Thread Karl Ferguson
> Someone told me that Infomagic has announced a CD containing Debian 1.0, > available in about a week. This would be a real disaster, since 1.0 is far > from ready for anyone but a developer to use it. I will contact Infomagic, > and I think we'd better write an announcement to linux-announce afte

1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-08 Thread Bruce Perens
Someone told me that Infomagic has announced a CD containing Debian 1.0, available in about a week. This would be a real disaster, since 1.0 is far from ready for anyone but a developer to use it. I will contact Infomagic, and I think we'd better write an announcement to linux-announce after that i

Bug#1978: man: default pager should be less

1995-12-08 Thread Raul Miller
Something ought to be done though, since more(1) can't be made to go backwards through manpages. This is rather a serious deficiency. Perhaps /bin/pager, done by update-alternatives ? Hmm, not too good. Another option might be to have man point more at the catman file rather than at

Re: dpkg-nondebbin and improper system installation

1995-12-08 Thread Raul Miller
A number of people have attempted or succeeded in using dpkg-nondebbin or a dpkg compiled on their local systems to install Debian without using the bootstrap floppies. As far as I am aware, this will yield a system that is broken in various ways (non-debian files in the system direc

Bug#1990: netstd doesnt restart other daemons.

1995-12-08 Thread Karl Ferguson
Package: netstd Version: 1.24-1 Hi.. While installing netstd 1.24-1 it asked me if I wished to install a new /etc/init.d/netstd_nfs - I said ok to that. However since I run NFS etc it didn't take into account to leave the entry for rpc.nfsd/mountd daemons uncommented so that they would start aga

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Jeff Noxon
> On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Jeff Noxon wrote: > > I have several months of the ncurses list archived. If anyone is interested > > in having a copy of the archive, please let me know how to deliver it. :) > > How big is it? 1.3MB uncompressed, 450K gzipped. Jeff

Unanswered problem reports

1995-12-08 Thread iwj10
The following problem reports have not yet been marked as `taken up' by a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] OVER 10 MONTHS OLD - ATTENTION IS REQUIRED: Ref PackageKeywords/Subject Package maintainer 379 mount Repeatable mount(1) problem wi Bruce Perens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OV

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Jeff Noxon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > perhaps we should not mess with ncurses at all. BSD curses does not provide the form and menu interfaces. I am using these (and possibly the pad and panel interfaces, that's undecided) to implement a new installation program. It would be a lot more difficult

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Jeff Noxon wrote: > I have several months of the ncurses list archived. If anyone is interested > in having a copy of the archive, please let me know how to deliver it. :) How big is it? > > I suspect that the distributed packaging responsibility will make it > > unlikely th

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Thu, 7 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > > ncurses2-1.9.7a-1.deb will be the shared library package. It is ncurses2 > > because the major portion of the soname is 2. It will depend on libc5 and > > ncurses-base. > This should be ncurses21-* (or ncurses2.1-*). As was already noted, > the major ver

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Jeff Noxon
> On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Jeff Noxon wrote: > > If the ncurses guys are going to keep blowing off binary compatibility, > > then perhaps we should not mess with ncurses at all. > > I suspect, especially now that we've got the package load spread around > more, that Debian will be able to keep up. I'

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Jeff Noxon wrote: > If the ncurses guys are going to keep blowing off binary compatibility, > then perhaps we should not mess with ncurses at all. I suspect, especially now that we've got the package load spread around more, that Debian will be able to keep up. > I'm not real

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-08 Thread Jeff Noxon
If the ncurses guys are going to keep blowing off binary compatibility, then perhaps we should not mess with ncurses at all. I'm not really sure where the big 'push' to move to ncurses came from (on linux-gcc), and I don't see how it is any better (at this point) than BSD curses. At least BSD cur

Bug#1989: mmap bug?

1995-12-08 Thread J.H.M.Dassen
Package: kernel Version: ? The sources I'm using form libdb contain a patch that says: + * The Linux kernel mmap() semantics are broken : + * + * Under Linux, read only private mappings cause write only and read/write + * opens to fail with errno=ETXTBSY. Shared read only mappings should work

Bug#1988: New version of fort77 uploaded

1995-12-08 Thread Thomas König
Package: fort77 Version: 1.6 I have just uploaded version 1.7 of the fort77 driver script to sunsite's Incoming. This fixes a couple of minor bugs with the -b, -v and -V options, which weren't passed everywhere, or weren't passed correctly. -- Thomas Kvnig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] T