Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sun, 10 Dec 1995, roro wrote: > And how to elegantly get rid of the huge /usr/lib/terminfo database > w/o installing and purging? Good point. This sounds like a serious user-upgrade issue. This looks like a dpkg-guru question.

Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-09 Thread Mail Archive
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Bill Mitchell wrote: > > It seems like this will cause the mirrors carrying 1.0 to download > the whole tree again. If we're going to do that, perhaps we should > have the debian-development (or whatever) be the directory tree and > debian-1. be a symlink to it. That way, the

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > I think ncurses wins an award for "most packages from one source archive." I'm not sure about that. I've had several instances of multiple rapid-fire uploads due to upload glitches and due to my own boneheaded errors 8^(.

Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: > On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > > > I think we should deprecate 1.0 and bump the version number to 1.1, so > > that authentic copies of the release are not confused with the one on > > the Infomagic CD. > > This is a good idea. It seems like

Re: Source package format - a simple proposal

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: > On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > > > From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > 6a. No unnecessary up/down-loading by maintainers. > > > > Is this such a big issue? With your overseas FTP problems you can judge > > that, but I'd feel more conf

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > > Since ftp.debian.org seems to still be having problems with people > downloading new files, I'm putting a copy of ncurses-1.9.8a in > ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/bruce/Incoming, since a handful of people have > contacted me since yesterday to ask if

Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Ian Murdock wrote: > On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > I wouldn't make the development release *too* hard to get to, as a few > people have suggested doing. I think that having a separate login for > getting it is excessive. It's in our best interest to make the > dev

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread roro
Another problem: ncurses-base-1.9.8a-1.deb should have a debian.preinst to kill the link etc/terminfo -> ../usr/lib/terminfo provided by base-0.93.6. Or it is intended that these fall into /usr/lib/terminfo? And how to elegantly get rid of the huge /usr/lib/terminfo database w/o installing and pur

Re: ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread roro
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Michael Alan Dorman wrote: > Since ftp.debian.org seems to still be having problems with people > downloading new files, I'm putting a copy of ncurses-1.9.8a in > ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/bruce/Incoming, since a handful of people have ^^ You mean ftp.pixa

ncurses available on ftp.pixar.com

1995-12-09 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Since ftp.debian.org seems to still be having problems with people downloading new files, I'm putting a copy of ncurses-1.9.8a in ftp://ftp.debian.org/pub/bruce/Incoming, since a handful of people have contacted me since yesterday to ask if I could send them copies directly. I think ncurses wins

Re: bumping the version number

1995-12-09 Thread Ian Murdock
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > I think we should deprecate 1.0 and bump the version number to 1.1, so > that authentic copies of the release are not confused with the one on > the Infomagic CD. This is a good idea. Regarding the use of a code name for the release: Considering what's

symlink in /usr/include (fwd)

1995-12-09 Thread Ian Murdock
How about installing the kernel headers directly in /usr/include, rather than linking them into /usr/src? I always assumed this was standard kernel practice. Apparently, I was wrong. Are there any opinions on the subject? -- Forwarded message -- Date: Wed, 6 Dec 1995 08:11:43 -0

Re: Source package format - a simple proposal

1995-12-09 Thread Ian Murdock
On Mon, 27 Nov 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > From: Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > 6a. No unnecessary up/down-loading by maintainers. > > Is this such a big issue? With your overseas FTP problems you can judge > that, but I'd feel more confident if the maintainer uploaded the entire > package a

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-09 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, David Engel wrote: > Yes, but not directly. The way I did it was to have tcl74-dev both > provide and conflict with the virtual package tcl-dev. When tcl75-dev > comes out, it will do the same thing. This has the advantage of only > allowing one tcl*-dev package to be install

announcing ncurses 1.9.8a (fwd)

1995-12-09 Thread Michael Alan Dorman
Well, I figure all the work I did on 1.9.7a will apply to 1.9.8a. Also, Jeff, they're almost promising the ABI will quit changing! Mike. -- "I'm a dinosaur. Somebody's digging my bones." -- Forwarded message -- Date: Fri, 8 Dec 1995 21:29:57 -0800 From: Zeyd M. Ben-Halim <[EMAI

legal to export DES outside of the US via Canada? (fwd)

1995-12-09 Thread Mail Archive
I was reading this tidbit of info and thought some of you might like it... Anyway to make our DES legal All I have to have is a canadian mirror site who will mirror EVERYTHING from the tree then all out of US mirror sites mirror from this point. This would fix our export problem without breakin

Bug#1995: run-parts on laptops

1995-12-09 Thread Raul Miller
Package: miscutils Version: 1.3 Revision: 5 run-parts should probably not do what it normally does, when a laptop doesn't have AC power. This could be implemented with something along the lines of: die "helpful message\n" unless system "grep 'AC: off line' /proc/apm 2>/dev/null"; Presum

manpages-1.8 .tar.gz .diff.gz

1995-12-09 Thread Martin Schulze
Good morning folks, I took over the manpages package, but I can't find these files anywhere. I only see a .deb package. Could someone please send me these files. Thanks. Have a pleasant day, Joey -- / Martin Schulze * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * 26129 Oldenburg / / +49-441-777884 *

Re: debian-1.0 availability

1995-12-09 Thread Martin Schulze
Dear Robert Leslie! }I don't know about other mirrors, but AFAICT tsx-11.mit.edu doesn't even carry }the 0.93R6 release any more. It only offers debian-1.0. I have just looked at sunsite. I thought they carry the whole tree, but they don't. They only offer 0.93*. That's ok. Regards, Joe

Bug#1994: Lynx License

1995-12-09 Thread Bruce Perens
The DRAFT Lynx license would let us distribute with no problem. We just have to urge them to move it from draft to actual status. Bruce -- Visit the "Toy Story" Web Page! http://www.toystory.com

Bug#421: unreasonable restriction on term

1995-12-09 Thread James A. Robinson
> Return-Path: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:31:41 +0200 > Date: Tue, 19 Sep 1995 14:31:41 +0200 > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Sven Rudolph) > Message-Id: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: Bug#421: unreasonable restriction on term > > You

Bug#1993: Unified approach to on-line documentation

1995-12-09 Thread Bruce Perens
Bruce: > For a more functional presentation of the manual, I'd convert the manual > pages to HTML on the fly, and read them with lynx or another web browser. From: Jeff Noxon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I think this would be much more useful with the info pages. Info is > just as intuitive as vi (that

Re: Infomagic and 1.0

1995-12-09 Thread Bruce Perens
From: Matthew Bailey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Really they should destroy them! but I am only dreaming. We are talking about a 5-CD set in which 1/3 of one CD is Debian. I very definitely don't want to scare CD manufacturers away from Debian, so I have made a nice even-toned announcement which Infoma

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-09 Thread Bruce Perens
Surprisingly, they stopped their mirror on November 18, before we'd put all of the "README.DONT.USE.THIS" files and so on in place. If they'd seen that file they probably would not have copied the archive. I think having an ALPHA-TEST subdirectory is sufficiently clear. Bruce -- Visit the

Bug#1978: man: default pager should be less

1995-12-09 Thread Jeff Noxon
> For a more functional presentation of the manual, I'd convert the manual > pages to HTML on the fly, and read them with lynx or another web browser. I think this would be much more useful with the info pages. Info is just as intuitive as vi (that is, not at all) and I think that makes it a bad

Re: Infomagic and 1.0

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Bill Mitchell wrote: > > Since Infomagic has pressed the CDs, I wonder if it'd be possible > to get them to include an insert with distributed CDs explaining > the situation. Otherwise CD buyers are going to be put off debian > when they try it from the CD. > Really they sho

Re: ncurses build options...

1995-12-09 Thread David Engel
> > > ncurses-bin-1.9.7a-1.deb will contain the terminfo database manipulation > > > files. It will depend on ncurses2. > > It should also depend on libc5. > > I've been going on the assumption that since it's dependent upon > ncurses21, which is in turn dependent on libc5, that dpkg/dselect wou

1.0 and package announcements

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
If package uploads are going to go into 1.0 and not 0.93, and if we're going to take steps to privatize 1.0, perhaps we should stop posting announcements of package uploades to debian-changes. Actually, I think the changes files should be uploaded, and appropriate public package announcements mad

Infomagic and 1.0

1995-12-09 Thread Bill Mitchell
Since Infomagic has pressed the CDs, I wonder if it'd be possible to get them to include an insert with distributed CDs explaining the situation. Otherwise CD buyers are going to be put off debian when they try it from the CD. Just a thought. [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Bill Mitchell)

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Sat, 9 Dec 1995, Fernando Alegre wrote: > release-0.93/ > not-released-1.0/ The whole problem is nothing more than hindsite now, so lets drop it an update of whats is going to happen is forth coming. -- Matthew S. Bailey 107 Emmons Hall Central Michigan University Mt. Pleasant, MI 48858 [EMA

Re: 1.0 on Infomagic CD

1995-12-09 Thread Fernando Alegre
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: [...] > We can't put stuff like this where just anybody can download it any > longer. Especially, we can't do that and call it "1.0". This isn't > entirely Infomagic's fault, in my opinion. I suggested some time ago to call the directories: release-0.93

Re: Where 1.0 is

1995-12-09 Thread Matthew Bailey
On Fri, 8 Dec 1995, Bruce Perens wrote: > It is now back in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ALPHA-TEST/debian-1.0 . > However, ALPHA-TEST is now unreadable to foil the mirror sites. You know > the drill to get through it. I think Matt Bailey moved it, but I wish > he'd provided us a way to get at it i

re:Where 1.0 is

1995-12-09 Thread brian (b.c.) white
>It is now back in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ALPHA-TEST/debian-1.0 . >However, ALPHA-TEST is now unreadable to foil the mirror sites. Will this become readable once it is decided that this is for-sure its final resting place? Having mirror sites include 1.0 (if they desire) is, IMO, a good idea

InfoMagic problem...

1995-12-09 Thread Ian Murdock
Bruce: I'll call you in a few hours regarding the InfoMagic problem. You're probably not awake yet, since it's only 9:30am here in the midwest. I have to leave for a few hours, but I'll be back home at 2pm. I'll start writing an announcement. We should try to send it as soon as possible--tonigh

Bug#1992: "w" has invalid option

1995-12-09 Thread Karl Ferguson
Package: procps Version: 0.97-4 Hi.. With the manual page for "w" it talks about the option "-n", however the -n option fails with w at the prompt - hence: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:12:~] w -n w: illegal option -- n usage: w: [ -hi ] [user] [EMAIL PROTECTED]:12:~] Regards, ...Karl --

Where 1.0 is

1995-12-09 Thread Bruce Perens
It is now back in ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ALPHA-TEST/debian-1.0 . However, ALPHA-TEST is now unreadable to foil the mirror sites. You know the drill to get through it. I think Matt Bailey moved it, but I wish he'd provided us a way to get at it in its new location before he did that. People are

Bug#1978: man: default pager should be less

1995-12-09 Thread Bruce Perens
It is ultimately a user choice whether "less" or "more" is used by the manual pager. The only reason "more" is used as the default is because it's a required component of the base system. Less is twice the size of "more", which is why "more" is in the base system rather than "less". I suspect that

What has happened to 1.0?

1995-12-09 Thread Andy Guy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- It seems someone has really hidden it? Infomagic may have grabbed 1.0 when I did - at that time there was no warning that this was development version (I would have wanted it anyway I had already been using elf). I think the situation as of yesterday was fine