Re: Splitting the debian-changes list...

1997-05-13 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 12, Tom Lees wrote On Wed, 7 May 1997, Christian Schwarz wrote: Perhaps you can split dinstall into two scripts: One script that is run, say once an hour, that just checks incoming for new uploads and posts the .changes files in the appropriate lists. This script could check for

Please remove your /dev/cu* devices !

1997-05-13 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 12, Brian C. White wrote The following message is a list of items to be completed for the upcoming releases of Debian GNU/Linux. If something is missing, incorrect, or you want to take responsibility for one or more items, please send email to: Brian White [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... -

Re: Ideas for `bug'.

1997-05-13 Thread Andreas Jellinghaus
On May 13, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote On Mon, 12 May 1997, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: no. bug should prompt the user with a list of conffiles before the editor is called. then the user will select the config files to be included, and leater in the editor he can edit them (like replaceing

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Andy Mortimer
On May 12, Jim Pick wrote Excellent write-up, Klee. Thanks for doing it. I second this; a lot of thought has obviously gone into this, and it shows! Since I've been attacking this topic lately, I'll try to post some (hopefully) constructive criticisms. But, overall, I agree with what you

Re: IMP: downgrade ldso to bo: no ldso left!

1997-05-13 Thread joost witteveen
On May 11, joost witteveen wrote I just downgraded my ldso from the one in unstable, to the one in bo, and I appear to be left with a system that doesn't have a dynamic linker! This is because of a change from a hard link to a symlink in one of the 1.9.x versions. I'm not sure that I

compiling with gettext

1997-05-13 Thread Susan G. Kleinmann
I have been trying for some time to solve Bug #8882 against the 'sp' package, which says that in order to make it buildable under glibc, I need to call libintl as well as libnls in order to accommodate glibc, and to define LINUX_TYPES_H for glibc. I made those changes and could no longer get the

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Noel Maddy
Jim Pick wrote: Vincent Renardias wrote: A while ago there has been a thread about KDE and Qt's licence; some people (can't remember who) told they were interested into re-writting a GPL'd clone of Qt (possibly on the top on LessTif). What's the status on this? I.e: has someone began

Re: IMP: downgrade ldso to bo: no ldso left!

1997-05-13 Thread David Engel
On May 13, joost witteveen wrote On May 11, joost witteveen wrote I just downgraded my ldso from the one in unstable, to the one in bo, and I appear to be left with a system that doesn't have a dynamic linker! This is because of a change from a hard link to a symlink in one of

Re: IMP: downgrade ldso to bo: no ldso left!

1997-05-13 Thread Raul Miller
On May 13, David Engel wrote This problem is not that simple. With the current dpkg, there is no way to fix this even with a statically linked cp or ln. This is because dpkg will remove ld-linux.so.1 before any postinst script gets a chance to repair the damage. How about putting something

Re: compiling with gettext

1997-05-13 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Tue, 13 May 1997, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: I have been trying for some time to solve Bug #8882 against the 'sp' package, which says that in order to make it buildable under glibc, I need to call libintl as well as libnls in order to accommodate glibc, [

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
Please clarify - unpacking a Debian source package is different than unpacking an upstream source package (which may require tar, unzip, zoo, lha, jar, etc.). Right? Andy Mortimer wrote: Personally, I'd be inclined to disagree here, especially given [1.5] below. If I've gone to all the

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
Jim Pick wrote: Even if we wrote one, I doubt the KDE guys, especially Matthias Ettrich, would be willing to use it. Really an unfortunate situation, IMHO. :-( Noel Maddy wrote: Berate me for missing the obvious, but couldn't KDE just be compiled with a QT clone for Debian? What am

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: If someone wants to contribute to an effort to clone a toolkit, they'd probably be much better off contributing to the WINE project (Windows emulator) or Jolt project (Java clone - kaffe, biss-awt, guavac, etc.). What do you think about Lesstiff? --

Re: FreeQt ?

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
On Tue, 13 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: If someone wants to contribute to an effort to clone a toolkit, they'd probably be much better off contributing to the WINE project (Windows emulator) or Jolt project (Java clone - kaffe, biss-awt, guavac, etc.). What do you think about Lesstiff?

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On 12 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: say that if the source is well behaved (that is, it is a tar file that unpacks into *some* directory other than ., compressed or Kai You seem to think a tar that unpacks into . is a problem. I Kai still fail to see why. Kai Just unpack into a

Re: compiling with gettext

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Tue, 13 May 1997, Susan G. Kleinmann wrote: I have been trying for some time to solve Bug #8882 against the 'sp' package, which says that in order to make it buildable under glibc, I need to call libintl as well as libnls in order to accommodate glibc, and to define LINUX_TYPES_H for

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 12.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kai == Kai Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Well, yes. Scan the temp dir after unpacking. If it contains one Kai directory and nothing else, that directory is the main package Kai directory. If it contains

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andy Mortimer) wrote on 13.05.97 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On May 12, Jim Pick wrote Excellent write-up, Klee. Thanks for doing it. I second this; a lot of thought has obviously gone into this, and it shows! aol Me too! /aol * [1.1] It must be possible to

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Joey Hess wrote: Lars Wirzenius: They might not understand enough about shell scripts (or Perl, or whatever the script is written in) and whatever tools the script uses to make an informed decision of whether the script is safe. With the current scheme, they only

Re: Bug system `followup' messages

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On 12 May 1997, Manoj Srivastava wrote: Hi, I think, from the volume of discussion on bugs-dist, that most developers have signed up on that list (and I at least follow it quite diligently). I would rather not clutter up debian-devel with that traffic (if we send all reports to

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Joey Hess wrote: Kai Henningsen: Remember: no shell scripts in the source packages that are needed for unpacking. It's just too dangerous. I don't understand why this is more dangerous than debian/rules. Why? You don't get to review it before it's run. -- Tom

Re: Sending closed bug notices to interested parties.

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Chris Walker wrote: Further to the announcement from Ian Jackson about the creation of a mailing list for closed bugs There may be circumstances when I wish to know if a bug has been closed, but am not the person who reported the bug (eg I want to know when the

Re: Bug#8794: wrong arch declaration in dpkg.

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Ian Jackson wrote: The good definition of powerpc processors is 'powerpc', not 'ppc'. Was this issue settled ? This will be hard to change later, so it's important to get it right quickly. I believe it was. --- archtable Thu Feb 27 21:53:23 1997 +++

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: You might want to unpack a source package for other reasons than to build it -- e.g., I've sometimes searched for documentation. A non-programmer might want to do this so that they can typeset the documentation in LaTeX, instead of printing out the

Wishing to maintain package 'dpkg-ftp'

1997-05-13 Thread Yann Dirson
It seems that this package hasn't evolved for quite a long time. As there are many bug-reports, and as I worked out fixes for some of them, I suppose its maintainer has no time for it, and I'm wishing to maintain it. If I get no response within a week, I'll take for granted that there's no

Re: Bug#9242: dpkg: dpkg could be smart about Changes information

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Ian Jackson wrote: It would be useful if the kind of information sent to the debian-changes mailing list were integrated into dpkg. For available updated packages, a user could use information about the number and Urgency: of each intervening update. Also

I'm (almost) back (and Linuxconf)

1997-05-13 Thread Shaya Potter
I am almost finished with my AP's, only having Biology tomorrow. During my free time I have thaught up a way that may allow us to use Linuxconf, and all of it's starting/stoping features w/o replacing init. The author of linuxconf liked the idea so it looks like we might have an easier time

Unidentified subject!

1997-05-13 Thread WOA KADER
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dpkg verify mode for security?

1997-05-13 Thread Amos Shapira
Hi, I was asking over Linux-ISP about doing cleanup after breakins and got many use tripwire answers, and one which says that RPM has a verify mode which checks for files which were changed since they were installed. Can the dpkg maintainers consider adding such a feature for Debian? Chees,

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Tom Lees
On Sun, 11 May 1997, Jim Pick wrote: The point I was trying to make was that having dependencies on binary packages would be really, really nice. This gets more complicated. To allow for cross-compiling or bootstrapping, some packages need to be compilable using the Source from another

Re: Debian and Linuxconf (again :-) ) (fwd)

1997-05-13 Thread Shaya Potter
This is the message I got from the developer. If you have any comments cc: me, as I have resubscribed to the lists yet. Shaya -- Forwarded message -- Date: Mon, 12 May 1997 23:37:51 -0400 (EDT) From: Jacques Gelinas [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Shaya Potter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc:

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
How about where part of the upstream archive could go into the main distribution, but part needs to go into non-free or non-US, even for the sources? That's a case where you _must_ repack the original archive. MfG Kai No. I'd just say upload the upstream sources to the non-US

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
Tom Lees wrote: This gets more complicated. To allow for cross-compiling or bootstrapping, some packages need to be compilable using the Source from another package, so eg:- SrcPackage: xmp Depends: awe-drv | src.awe I don't think it adds any complexity if upstream source packages,

Re: dpkg verify mode for security?

1997-05-13 Thread Jim Pick
Hi, I was asking over Linux-ISP about doing cleanup after breakins and got many use tripwire answers, and one which says that RPM has a verify mode which checks for files which were changed since they were installed. Can the dpkg maintainers consider adding such a feature for Debian?

Re: Proposal: New source format (was Re: [Fwd: Re: dpkg question])

1997-05-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, [This is getting silly, I really have no objection to the proposal] Kai == Kai Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 12.05.97 in Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Kai == Kai Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Well, yes. Scan the temp dir after

Re: Wishing to maintain package 'dpkg-ftp'

1997-05-13 Thread Christian Hudon
On May 13, Yann Dirson wrote It seems that this package hasn't evolved for quite a long time. As there are many bug-reports, and as I worked out fixes for some of them, I suppose its maintainer has no time for it, and I'm wishing to maintain it. Have you tried to email the current

Re: New Source Formats and Source Package Verification

1997-05-13 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Jim == Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Might it be possible to, say, have a list of `supported formats' -- .tar.gz, .zip, others? -- and at least give the option of downloading upstream sources which were originally in other formats as a tarball? This is far from ideal, for any number

Behaviour of Conflicts:

1997-05-13 Thread Todd Harper
[ NOTE: I don't subscribe to debian-devel, and my question is geared towards the developers, so please ensure that responses are CC:'d back to me ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Thanks. ] G'Day, I'm curious about how dpkg handles the Conflicts: line of packages that are already installed on the