Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Dale Scheetz wrote: > > >Two packages in the list of "important" refused to install because they > > >declared (correctly) their dependence upon packages of lower priority. > > > > > > at depends on libelf0 priority: optional > > > > This dependency isn't

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >As several people already pointed out, the phone costs in Europe are rather >high; >so that people like to use the transfer agent with the shortest connection >duration, >which is doubtless UUCP. > >But this requires an MTA w

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [exim] >I also hope to figure out how to get exim to have a customer-configurable >spam block when acting as MX for those customers - I think they'll like >that very much, and it sure looks as if that should be possible.

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, David Frey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > exim should be able to parse simple bang-paths IMO (host!user), since most > > UUCP paths It can read them with rewriting; it can't rewrite them but you could probably use a perl script or something to generate the

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

Dale Scheetz wrote: >> >at depends on libelf0 priority: optional >> >> This dependency isn't needed... hmm... >> >> For some reason, the configure script created by autoconf always >> looks for -lelf and, if it can find it, adds it to the list of >> searched libraries. >> >

Debian-Policy Manual

My comments on Christian's proposal (which is very good, thank you christian): >TOPIC 1: policy for user and group ids (uids, gids) Wouldn't it be better to start the user uid range with 100 as most other Unices do? >TOPIC 4: editor/pager policy What is the benefit of /usr/bin/sensible-{editor,p

Re: locale errors]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Mark Baker wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Erv Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > > LC_ALL = (unset), > >

Gone for a week

I'm going to be away from my computer for approximately a week, while I travel to Vancouver and Nanaimo (B.C., Canada) on business. I probably won't be able to fetch my mail. Unfortunately, I slipped behind schedule for a few things - so I won't be uploading the "experimental" version of dwww to

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Clint Adams wrote: > > > Does this make sense to anyone but me? > > It seems unnecessary for shared libraries to have priorities if they're > useless without programs which depend upon them. > I don't see your point, and you seem to have missed mine. I was trying to point

Re: Debian's mail daemons

Rob Browning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Does anyone know of any document comparing comparing sendmail, exim, > and qmail. The recent discussions and some upcoming installs here > have made me start contemplating the issue again. I don't think there's a FAQ, and I don't think it could be object

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Thomas Koenig wrote: > Dale Scheetz wrote: > > >Two packages in the list of "important" refused to install because they > >declared (correctly) their dependence upon packages of lower priority. > > > > at depends on libelf0 priority: optional > > This d

New ncpfs package

Hi, I noticed that the Debian ncpfs package (Netware client filesystem tools) is orphaned, and the version is very old. I needed a newer version, so I packaged ncpfs-2.0.10. It is available from ftp://ftp.ists.pwr.wroc.pl/pub/linux/debian-local/ Note that I'm not an official Debian maintainer -

Re: Installing XF86 3.3-1 crashed XEmacs 19.15-3

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Eichin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I've seen this reported elsewhere; if the xemacs maintainer has > vanished, perhaps someone could grab the debian sources and rebuild a > non-maintainer release using the 3.3 libs? Or at least look into the > proble

Re: locale errors

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Erv Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > perl: warning: Setting locale failed. > perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings: > LC_ALL = (unset), > LANG = "us" > are supported and installed on your system. > perl: warning: Fall

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

Dale Scheetz wrote: >Two packages in the list of "important" refused to install because they >declared (correctly) their dependence upon packages of lower priority. > > at depends on libelf0 priority: optional This dependency isn't needed... hmm... For some reason, the co

Re: Package priorities and dependencies.

> Does this make sense to anyone but me? It seems unnecessary for shared libraries to have priorities if they're useless without programs which depend upon them. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Package priorities and dependencies.

I have been working on a prototype of a system to allow "Custom Systems" that can be installed "simply" with dselect. The approach has been to make a subdirectory, containing links into the archive for the packages that are needed by the "Custom System". The technique is working out fine, but I hav

Debian's mail daemons

Does anyone know of any document comparing comparing sendmail, exim, and qmail. The recent discussions and some upcoming installs here have made me start contemplating the issue again. I've poked around, but came up with nothing. I did see some bits in the Qmail+MH mini howto, claiming all its

Re: Installing XF86 3.3-1 crashed XEmacs 19.15-3

On 15 Jun 1997, Mark Eichin wrote: > I've seen this reported elsewhere; if the xemacs maintainer has > vanished, perhaps someone could grab the debian sources and rebuild a > non-maintainer release using the 3.3 libs? Or at least look into the > problem? (Xemacs has more dependencies on X than em

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

On Sun, Jun 15 1997 11:20 BST Philip Hands writes: > > Exim doesn't provide UUCP capabilities *at all*, thus it is rather > > useless for sites that use UUCP (like me). > > I expect that you will admit that UUCP sites are a minority. I use UUCP, but > I don't think that the majority of

Re: S: workaround for dpkg replaces bug

I ran into this exact problem some time ago with elvis. What I did was to create a bunch of zero byte files (think touch) and install them on top of the files from the old package. I then deleted the files in the post init script. This allowed dpkg to mark all files as removed from the old packa

bug server feature request: "index-summary foopackage"

Milan Zamazal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >One problem with reporting bugs I feel personally is what to do to >avoid repeating reports. I use the following algorithm, when I >discover a bug: >1. I go through the list of pending bugs posted to bug list > periodically, and check whether it could

Re: S: workaround for dpkg replaces bug

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Andreas Jellinghaus) wrote on 15.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > the dpkg replace function works only for the first package listed. > one of my package (isdnutils) replaces more than one package (vbox, > isdnlog, xisdnutils). maybe someone has an idea how i can make sure, > th

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philip Hands) wrote on 15.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > Exim doesn't provide UUCP capabilities *at all*, thus it is rather > > useless for sites that use UUCP (like me). > > I expect that you will admit that UUCP sites are a minority. I use UUCP, I don't know about him, b

Re: Installing XF86 3.3-1 crashed XEmacs 19.15-3

I've seen this reported elsewhere; if the xemacs maintainer has vanished, perhaps someone could grab the debian sources and rebuild a non-maintainer release using the 3.3 libs? Or at least look into the problem? (Xemacs has more dependencies on X than emacs does -- the current emacs works fine wit

Re: Status of Debian Policy

Miquel van Smoorenburg wrote: >SystemV has standard library functions for this. Qpopper can use them if >compiled under Solaris. So for qpopper, I just created those functions myself. >It might be a good idea to put them in a small (not shared) library, so >other programs can use them. And the cha

Re: Status of Debian Policy

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >Currently some packages do one and some the other. > >> 2. Build a shared library ``libdebian'', that contains >> functions

Re: locale errors

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 15 Jun 1997, Kai Henningsen wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erv Walter) wrote on 13.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > Please tell me how to solve this problem > > Do you have libc6 and friends installed? That seems to be what causes this > for me. > > MfG

Re: Status of Debian Policy

> > All packages that provide HTML documentation should register these > > documents to the menu system, too. Check out section section 4.1, `Web > > servers and applications' for details. > > Is that as well as registering with dwww? I'm changing the way documents register themse

kinda a bug with Debian 1.3 installation

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- I found a small bug with installation of 1.3.0 last night while installing on a friend's Toshiba Tecra Laptop. The problem deals with the kernel/pcmcia services. He has a Panasonic pcmcia 4x CDROM. It is supported by pcmcia and I have had it working in linux b

Re: Status of Debian Policy

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) writes: > Would programs _have_ to use this library, or is implementing the same thing > in acceptable? The latter has problems in that it forces us to keep the same > method, but I don't want to see lots of #ifdef debian appearing in the > original source; apart fro

Re: Status of Debian Policy

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > All packages that provide HTML documentation should register these > documents to the menu system, too. Check out section section 4.1, `Web > servers and applications' for details. Is that as w

Re: Corel Wordperfect and Java Office

On Jun 6, Colin R. Telmer wrote > I just noticed that Corel is just in the process porting Wordperfect 7 to > Linux and the following is on the web page > : > > Certified Operating Systems > > RedHat 2.0.18 > Slackware 2.0.25 > OpenLinux 1.0 > > Should we

Re: Mirror with Incoming ???

Christian Schwarz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Alexander Koch wrote: > > > ok, master is limited, i can understand that. > > but, the heck with it , somebody find me a mirror with Incoming on it? > > > > since it is so very much easier to just get it all out of Incoming and

Re: Upcoming Debian Releases

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Lees) wrote on 09.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Well, it looks as we will have to agree to disagree. > The file is not modified locally per s.e., just written locally in a Uh, there's no dots in "per se". That's latin for by or in itself - per is by, and se is self. M

Re: locale errors

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Erv Walter) wrote on 13.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The locale errors are getting extremely annoying. What is the most > correct way to solve the problems. unsetting LANG solves the problem, > but I can't find where it is getting set in the first place. That's > not the

Re: routing question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Pete Templin) wrote on 13.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > The question is this: I've compiled a lean, mean kernel with the > appropriate IP forwarding enabled (no firewalling or masquerading is being > used). Will it "route" by default, or do I need to add a specific pac

Re: inetd question

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Tobias) wrote on 13.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Jun 13, Michael Meskes wrote: > > Thanks Peter. > > > > I guess it's the ident service. So I try nowait.120 and see what > > happens. > > Of course it is the ident service (that's what the error message of > inetd sai

Re: Simple policy question...

[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Christian Hudon) wrote on 14.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > On Jun 13, Sam Ockman wrote > > Okay, so say some random person who has installed Debian wants XEmacs > > 19.15 because he needs some feature. This seems like a reasonable > > request... He could get it from the Ham

Status of Debian Policy

Note, that this is the first message of this type. My apologizes if the mail is too large. I was thinking about creating an extra mailing list of policy related discussions, or about setting up a HyperNews server to discuss these topics. However, I think this is (better: should) be important for a

Re: Mirror with Incoming ???

On Sat, 14 Jun 1997, Alexander Koch wrote: > ok, master is limited, i can understand that. > but, the heck with it , somebody find me a mirror with Incoming on it? > > since it is so very much easier to just get it all out of Incoming and > master is just quite ahead of the rest of the world, you

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

Tim Cutts wrote: >Well, for one thing exim (and smail) are a hell of a lot easier to >configure than sendmail. I've found that the m4 configuration of sendmail is fairly easy for an Internet-only machine (I don't run UUCP), but YMMV, of course. -- Thomas Koenig, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECT

running gpm as non-root

If you type "gpm" as a non-root user, it just sits there and never returns. IMHO it should check to see whether you are root, if you aren't then it should abort with an error. What do other people think - this sort of thing could apply to several programs - particularly those in /etc/init.d Thank

S: someone willing to compile a package for libc5 ?

is someone willing to compile a package as libc5 for me ? my system is stuck in half libc5 (-dev, ncurses, tcl), half libc6 (ldso, gcc), and so i cannot compile clean binaries, unless i downgrade ldso and gcc ... (one more reason for auto compiling all packages :-) regards, andreas -- TO UNSUB

S: workaround for dpkg replaces bug

the dpkg replace function works only for the first package listed. one of my package (isdnutils) replaces more than one package (vbox, isdnlog, xisdnutils). maybe someone has an idea how i can make sure, that these three packages are not installed ? (will something in preinst work ?). i have no ide

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Christian Hudon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > And yes, I think it'd be a good idea, assuming that exim's .forward syntax > is backward-compatible with sendmail/smail's syntax. Yes and no. Exim will understand ones from sendmail or smail; obviously once y

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

> Exim doesn't provide UUCP capabilities *at all*, thus it is rather > useless for sites that use UUCP (like me). I expect that you will admit that UUCP sites are a minority. I use UUCP, but I don't think that the majority of users who do not should be forced to use a cumbersome mail transfer a

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

On Sun, 15 Jun 1997, Christian Hudon wrote: > To make this clearer, the only thing that would happen it that exim would > be marked with priority 'important' and smail with priority 'extra'.. > > And yes, I think it'd be a good idea, assuming that exim's .forward syntax > is backward-compatible w

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

On 14 Jun 1997, John Goerzen wrote: > Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > It might be good if we would replace smail in hamm with exim. Exim should > > be the standard mailer for hamm: > > Exim doesn't provide UUCP capabilities *at all*, thus it is rather > useless for site

Re: Bug#10516: gs-aladdin: Depends on svgalib1 (>= 1.210-1) which does not allow svgalib-dummy to fulfill the dependency

> On Jun 12, joost witteveen wrote > > > > Well, OK, I can see *somebody* wants this. > > But still I'm not convinced this warrants inclusion in stable. > > Are there other people that would like the dependancy change > > > > - Depends: svgalib1 (>= 1:1.2.10-2) > > + Depends: svgalib1 (>= 1:1.2.1

Re: Debian 1.3.1?

1.3 has some security problems in X. 1.3.1 will probably have a newer version of X to fix this. At least two manufacturers will be selling the official CD at rediculously low prices, but they have not gone to duplication yet. Soon enough... Thanks Bruce -- Bruce Perens K6BP [E

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

On Jun 14, Mark Baker wrote > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, > Heiko Schlittermann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >: It might be good if we would replace smail in hamm with exim. Exim should > >: be the standard mailer for hamm: > > > > ... hmmm, ``never change a running system'', and

Re: dselect installs only main distribution not non-free

"Christian Hudon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > --+6KMIRAuhnl3hBnn > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > On Jun 11, Zlatko Calusic wrote > > > > --- install.origThu Dec 5 07:37:33 1996 > > +++ install Wed Apr 16 01:47:54 1997 > > @@ -139,6 +139,7 @@ > > print "\nProcessi

Re: Hamm: Exim + Chos standard?

On Jun 14, John Goerzen wrote > Christoph Lameter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > It might be good if we would replace smail in hamm with exim. Exim should > > be the standard mailer for hamm: > > Exim doesn't provide UUCP capabilities *at all*, thus it is rather > useless for sites that

Re: Bug#10516: gs-aladdin: Depends on svgalib1 (>= 1.210-1) which does not allow svgalib-dummy to fulfill the dependency

On Jun 12, joost witteveen wrote > > Well, OK, I can see *somebody* wants this. > But still I'm not convinced this warrants inclusion in stable. > Are there other people that would like the dependancy change > > - Depends: svgalib1 (>= 1:1.2.10-2) > + Depends: svgalib1 (>= 1:1.2.10-2)|svgadummy >

Re: Simple policy question...

On Jun 13, Sam Ockman wrote > Okay, so say some random person who has installed Debian wants XEmacs 19.15 > because he needs some feature. This seems like a reasonable request... He > could get it from the Hamm distribution, except that would mean he'd need > libc6...and he doesn't want to do tha

Re: Adding conffiles to a package

On Jun 12, Kai Henningsen wrote > [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Philippe Troin) wrote on 12.06.97 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > I'm stuck with the diald package, and I've got problems with users > > from old versions. The thing is: > > the files /etc/diald/diald.ip-{up,down} weren't conffiles, and now > > t

Re: dselect installs only main distribution not non-free

On Jun 11, Zlatko Calusic wrote > > --- install.origThu Dec 5 07:37:33 1996 > +++ install Wed Apr 16 01:47:54 1997 > @@ -139,6 +139,7 @@ > print "\nProcessing Package files...\n"; > my $dist; > foreach $dist (@dists) { > +$dist =~ tr/\//_/; > my $fn = "Packages.$dist"; >

Re: Compiling with libc6

On Fri, 13 Jun 1997, joost witteveen wrote: > > There are some maintainers that must keep their machines on the stable > > tree (and thus libc5) for various reasons. > > > > Is there a machine somewhere these developers can log in to for the sole > > purpose of building release packages? > > I

Re: RFC: libc6 policy supplement 2nd try

On Jun 14, Rob Browning wrote > Helmut Geyer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > - compile the library using -D_RENTRANT or -D_THREAD_SAFE > > There was some talk about adding -D_REENTRANT to the list of flags > that are automatically included by gcc/g++. I don't recall what the > resulting decis

Re: thread support

From: Andy Mortimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Although how well this interacts with dynamically-loaded shared libraries > is anyone's guess Your process gets its own copy of the library data that it can share with all of its threads but not with unrelated processes. Thus, the fact that the library is