What, why, where, utmp?

1997-12-04 Thread Dale Scheetz
One of my gaping holes of ignorance has to do with utmp entries; what they are, why are they gone, where is the package that creates them? I know that one of the latest fixes to dpkg-buildpackage deals with the lack of utmp entries, but don't understand why they were abandoned. I just discovered

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Dec-1997 12:45:31, Joe Emenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has much discussion been had about a possible configuration file management script for the package config scripts to use? For example, I installed cron on a Debian box, and then installed mgetty. Mgetty placed the following at

H.323 status

1997-12-04 Thread Adam Heath
First, a little history. As I am sure we all know, Linux currently does not support masquerading of video conferencing protocols, including H.323. There are partial solutions using IPPORTFW, but none that work transparently. So, a few weeks ago I started research into this project. I found

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That said, it appears that the only policy compliant way for a package to run a script more frequently than once a day is to register a user, and create a crontab for that user. This is not too onerous for news or sendmail, but seems like overkill for

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joey Hess
Steve Greenland wrote: That said, it appears that the only policy compliant way for a package to run a script more frequently than once a day is to register a user, and create a crontab for that user. This is not too onerous for news or sendmail, but seems like overkill for every little

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote: Creating a user shouldn't be that big of a deal, as long as it's a useful abstraction. Having a user for a fax system seems apropriate. Having a user for mrtg doesn't seem very appropriate to me, though. Mrtg is a simple program, that needs to run every 5 minutes. A user is

Re: Mailinglists documented

1997-12-04 Thread Joey Hess
Yann Dirson wrote: One nice thing would be to document a way for anyone to know which debian lists he's currently subscribed to. Is there such a mechanism, or is there only this stuff (what's its name, anyway ?) to be run on master to get the info ? I know there's a way that Pete Templin

EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out their first release! ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, libg++ is not supported right now and is obscolecent. Jason -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST:

going to package e

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
I intend to package the beta enlightenment window manager, imlib, and the default themes. If anyone wants to do it instead, I'll happily fall back to kibitz mode -- let me know. -- Raul -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble?

Re: H.323 status

1997-12-04 Thread Mark W. Eichin
You might look at the rsalabs web site; there's an introduction to asn.1 document there which is quite thorough, despite the name, though if I remember correctly it only describes one of BER or DER, whichever PKCS actually use. It might be worth a look. -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST:

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having a user for mrtg doesn't seem very appropriate to me, though. Mrtg is a simple program, that needs to run every 5 minutes. A user is overkill. If a user is overkill then cron probably is too. You'd probably do fine with something like ( trap

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Adam Heath
-Original Message- From: Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: debian-devel@lists.debian.org debian-devel@lists.debian.org Date: Wednesday, December 03, 1997 8:05 PM Subject: Re: Config file management utility On 02-Dec-1997 12:45:31, Joe Emenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Has much

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joey Hess
Raul Miller wrote: If a user is overkill then cron probably is too. You'd probably do fine with something like ( trap SIGHUP su nobody -c ' while sleep 300; do whatever; done /dev/null /dev/null 21

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Oleg Krivosheev
On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out their first release! ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, true libg++ is not supported right now and is

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Rob Browning
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another way, that sould comply with policy, were if cron came with a update-crontab script, that was responsible for modifying /etc/crontab, in a similar fasion to update-inetd. I think that this, or something similar, is in the end, the right solution.

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Oleg Krivosheev wrote: libg++ is not supported right now and is obscolecent. it's a bit misleading. It's not integrated into tarball, but it's quite good piece of C++ codeand can be compiled by EGCS. HJ has it packed separately somewhere Ah, well any code that uses

Re: going to package e

1997-12-04 Thread Jim Pick
Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I intend to package the beta enlightenment window manager, imlib, and the default themes. If anyone wants to do it instead, I'll happily fall back to kibitz mode -- let me know. Lalo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] did a package of beta 12, back in August,

I plan on packaging sane

1997-12-04 Thread Kevin Dalley
I plan to package sane, an API for scanners, in the very near future. -- Kevin Dalley [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

isdnutils/diald/ppp - hangs on authentication request

1997-12-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
I have an internal ISDN card using the HiSax driver and isdnutils; the kernel is 2.0.31 + patches (equivalent, I think, to 2.0.32) Versions: ii isdnutils 2.1.beta1-16 isdn utilities ii ppp 2.3.1-6Point-to-Point Protocol (PPP) daemon. ii diald 0.16.4-10

Re: predepends on libc6?

1997-12-04 Thread Santiago Vila Doncel
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On Fri, 21 Nov 1997, Bdale Garbee wrote: In bug report 15091, Christian Meder suggests to me that I make gzip predepend on libc6. It is not clear to me that this is a good thing to do. [ I think it is a good thing to do, so I have changed the severity to

Re: What, why, where, utmp?

1997-12-04 Thread Miquel van Smoorenburg
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Dale Scheetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One of my gaping holes of ignorance has to do with utmp entries; what they are, why are they gone, where is the package that creates them? An utmp entry is an entry in a fixed-size binary database located in /var/run/utmp. It

where is any_d.b

1997-12-04 Thread Michael Meskes
It disappeared on my system. Is it in a different package nowadays? Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]| Europark A2, Adenauerstr. 20 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | 52146 Wuerselen Go SF49ers! Go Rhein

Re: going to package e

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Jim Pick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lalo Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] did a package of beta 12, back in August, but he didn't upload it since he was waiting for developer status. I wonder what happened? Did we lose another one? I was going to pick it up from him, but... Anyways, his old package

libc5

1997-12-04 Thread Michael Meskes
How come this packaged hasn't been updated for a while. Since H.J. Lu is adding more and more libc6 compatibility changes I think it makes sense to stay up-to-date with libc5, too. Michael -- Dr. Michael Meskes, Project-Manager| topsystem Systemhaus GmbH [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Intent to package: umich-ldap / WNPP: Dermot Bradley probably not maintaining packages

1997-12-04 Thread Dermot John Bradley
On 3 Dec 1997, Ed Donovan wrote: I think Dermot Bradley isn't actively maintaining packages. I sent mail to one of his addresses, about packaging gated, a while back. I didn't hear from him, though I saw gated came off the WNPP list under his name later on. His packages in the archive are

Re: where is any_d.b

1997-12-04 Thread Scott Ellis
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Michael Meskes wrote: It disappeared on my system. Is it in a different package nowadays? I believe lilo20 obsoleted it. Check out the lilo docs. -- Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.gate.net/~storm/ -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST:

Re: Intent to package: umich-ldap / WNPP: Dermot Bradley probably not maintaining packages

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Dermot John Bradley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW Can anyone tell me how to create a package based on pristine source using debmake? From www.debian.org, hit developers corner. Then, start with Creating a Package using Debmake, after that, hit New-Maintainer's Debian Packaging Howto. Get your

Re: libc5

1997-12-04 Thread Richard Braakman
Michael Meskes wrote: How come this packaged hasn't been updated for a while. Since H.J. Lu is adding more and more libc6 compatibility changes I think it makes sense to stay up-to-date with libc5, too. I haven't heard anything from Helmut Geyer in months, except for a message on Sep 24 saying

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Brian White
Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out their first release! ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, libg++ is not supported right now and is obscolecent. Interesting. I didn't think it was a Cygnus

Re: not a first amendment question

1997-12-04 Thread Brian White
Brian Morality is a touchy subject and (in my opinion) the _only_ place to Brian draw this line is all or nothing. Agreed, except that clearly illegal stuff should be banned, of course. I doubt anyone would condone a child_pornography.deb package, for instance :-) Yes, the law is a good

Re: be careful with Replaces, please

1997-12-04 Thread Brian White
Nope, didn't seem to be flagged for install on my end. I would have suggested keeping the same name and conflicting with the versions of dump and quota that would have depended on the libraries. OK. I think I'll change the name back to e2fsprogs, and just make it conflict with old

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Scott Ellis
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Brian White wrote: Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out their first release! ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, libg++ is not supported right now and is obscolecent.

master's Incoming and 2.0 release date

1997-12-04 Thread Eloy A. Paris
Hello everyone, don't you think that having master's Incoming directory full of new packages that haven't been integrated to hamm may delay 2.0 release? I know Guy is having problems with his Internet connection but wouldn't it be nice if we had more people taking care of Incoming? What do you

Re: `COAS'

1997-12-04 Thread Stephen Zander
Behan Webster wrote: *sigh*... not diety, Deity. ^^ I wish people would learn to spell. This is one of the exceptions to the i before e rule. That's what comes from people not learning Latin at school anymore :) Stephen --- Normality is a statistical illusion. -- me

Who's root on Master?

1997-12-04 Thread Eduardo Marcel Macan
Hello, I need to have my password changed in master, who is in charge of maintaining the user accounts there? thanks, -- |\/| /\ ( /\ |\| ' +---Eduardo-Marcel-Macan---+

Re: EGCS 1.0 is out

1997-12-04 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On Thu, 4 Dec 1997, Brian White wrote: Just to let everyone know, EGCS has very recently (hours) just put out their first release! ftp://ftp.cygnus.com/pub/egcs/releases/egcs-1.0 It contians it's own integrated libstdc++, libg++ is not supported right now and is obscolecent.

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joe Emenaker
On Wed, 3 Dec 1997, Adam Heath wrote: How about this. Some one creates a script, that is run from /etc/crontab. Whenever this script is run, it checks to see if another program is supposed to be run. If so, it does it, then checks to see when the next script is supposed to run. It then

Re: [H.323] H.323 status

1997-12-04 Thread Al Youngwerth
At 08:39 PM 12/3/97 -0500, Adam Heath wrote: First, a little history. As I am sure we all know, Linux currently does not support masquerading of video conferencing protocols, including H.323. There are partial solutions using IPPORTFW, but none that work transparently. So, a few weeks ago I

Re: `COAS'

1997-12-04 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
Behan Webster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Anon wrote:] Perhaps Diety should become a part of that? *sigh*... not diety, Deity. ^^ Diety, of course, meaning of or like a diet. In the same vein as boxy. At least, that's what I think every time someone spells it like that.

Re: bo-updates packages

1997-12-04 Thread Steve Greenland
On 04-Dec-1997 14:08:59, Paul Seelig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Mark Baker) writes: Well, this temporary problem lasts since quite a while now and i fear that it will last for quite a while longer. I don't expect Debian-2.0 to happen earlier than somewhere at the end of

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Joe Emenaker
On 3 Dec 1997, Rob Browning wrote: Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another way, that sould comply with policy, were if cron came with a update-crontab script, that was responsible for modifying /etc/crontab, in a similar fasion to update-inetd. I think that this, or something

Re: master's Incoming and 2.0 release date

1997-12-04 Thread James Troup
Eloy A. Paris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know Guy is having problems with his Internet connection but wouldn't it be nice if we had more people taking care of Incoming? Guy is back in some form, at least he just dealt with a whole host of bugs filed against ftp.debian.org. Martin and I have

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Raul Miller
Joe Emenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The only problem is that it uses Perl. I haven't read the Debian policies so I don't know if Perl (or a stripped down version of it) is one of the things I can assume is on even the most minimal system. If not, I can do the same thing with bash/sed, I

Re: Config file management utility

1997-12-04 Thread Rob Browning
Joe Emenaker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Well, that's pretty much what I was suggesting in the beginning. The only difference is that you wouldn't have one, monolithic section. Rather, you'd have sections placed there by the individual packages. For example: The only advantage to the monolithic

Linking (ld) problem with package.

1997-12-04 Thread Rob Browning
I'm trying to improve some stuff in the rscheme package, and I have several shared libraries (for rscheme internal use only), that I need to glom together into one big shared library -- i.e. I want the collected library to contain all the code from the sub-libraries -- no dynamic links to any of

Re: (fwd) cutils version 1.5.2 - C language miscellaneous utilities

1997-12-04 Thread Yann Dirson
Hamish Moffatt writes: ctangle and cweave - simple literate C programming tools These are already part of the cweb package. If there're different, you may use alternatives ? -- Yann Dirson [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Stop making M$-Bill richer richer, alt-email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] |

Will dump work with disks over 2Gb?

1997-12-04 Thread Oliver Elphick
With the latest version of dump, I tried to backup my new 4.5Gb disk to DAT tape: linda# /sbin/dump 0nufB /dev/st0 1365000 /usr1 DUMP: Date of this level 0 dump: Thu Dec 4 22:46:30 1997 DUMP: Date of last level 0 dump: the epoch DUMP: Dumping /dev/sdb1 (/usr1) to /dev/st0 DUMP: mapping