Re: Linux on a i286

1997-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 08:30:19AM -0500, Alex Yukhimets wrote: Is there a way I can get Linux to work on my old 286? There is an attempt to port Linux to 086 called ELKS. Look for it's link on LDP page (http://sunsite.unc.edu/LDP/). Last time I checked I still couldn't even boot it on my

Re: looking for new maintainer

1997-12-12 Thread Adrian Bridgett
On Fri, Nov 28, 1997 at 07:48:04PM +0100, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote: i'm looking for a new maintainer for all my packages : mpage makedev (taken) giflib kde* I'll take mpage. Thanks Adrian email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Debian Linux - www.debian.org

unstripped stuff in /usr/lib

1997-12-12 Thread Adrian Bridgett
There is quite a lot of unstripped libraries/object files in /usr/lib, is this against policy? lots of perl5 stuff loads of elk stuff libdpkg.so.0.0 lpbftp.so.1.0 crt1.o: crti.o: crtn.o: hwtools/irqtune_npr.o: hwtools/irqtune_mod.o: gcrt1.o: libbsd-compat.a: libieee.a:

Re: syslogd taking up lots of CPU..

1997-12-12 Thread Ben Pfaff
That EAGAIN disturbs me. We're not even close to being out of disk space; what could be causing this? EAGAIN doesn't mean out of disk space. The gnu libc manual says this: - Macro: int EAGAIN Resource temporarily unavailable; the call might work if you try again later. The

Re: (fwd) PIC Programmer v2.0

1997-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Dec 11, 1997 at 11:48:43PM +0100, Hartmut Koptein wrote: I am interested in packaging the following, especially since we already have some PIC tools and it's a growing area. Yes that's a good idea. And if you put it into the menu take apps/Technical for it. Hmmm. There are already

Re: syslogd taking up lots of CPU..

1997-12-12 Thread Ben Gertzfield
Ben == Ben Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben EAGAIN doesn't mean out of disk space. The gnu libc manual Ben says this: Ben * A temporary resource shortage made an operation Ben impossible. `fork' can return this error. You know, I'll bet it was the glibc2.0.5c

Re: syslogd taking up lots of CPU..

1997-12-12 Thread James A . Treacy
Hm. For some reason, today, syslogd started taking up more than its share of CPU. (About 20% on a P200.) I wonder if this is related to a problem I've been having recently. Every console has been getting messages like the following at random times Message from [EMAIL PROTECTED] at Thu Dec 11

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: Chris Fearnley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: debian/bo/binary-i386/base/libc5_5.4.33-6.deb conflicts with libc6 making it IMPOSSIBLE to upgrade!! I had to downgrade to libc5_5.4.33-3.deb from a LSL CD (thank goodness this bug is not shipped on CDs!!)

Re: Where did packages in HELD-FOR-GUY go?

1997-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Eloy A. Paris wrote: does anyone know where are all the packages that were in Incoming/HELD-FOR-GUY? This directory is empty now but at least samba (which I maintain) has not been integrated into hamm (and samba was in HELD-FOR-GUY). Oh no! I had a

Re: status of bzip

1997-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
Michael Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whoops, forget I said the above sentence, I can't seem to find bzip anywhere in Debian... My fingers automatically typed gzip instead of bzip when searching :-( The last time it was seen in non-us distribution. Because of the patent issue

Re: status of bzip

1997-12-12 Thread Nathan E Norman
On 11 Dec 1997, Guy Maor wrote: : Michael Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: : : Whoops, forget I said the above sentence, I can't seem to find bzip : anywhere in Debian... My fingers automatically typed gzip instead of : bzip when searching :-( : The last time it was seen in non-us

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Martin Mitchell
Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Huh? The upgrade path is quite clear: install a newer libc5 (5.4.33-7) from hamm, then you may install libc6. The solution isn't quite so simple. The libc5 from hamm DEPENDS ON libc6. There is a definate problem here. You install both hamm

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Huh? The upgrade path is quite clear: install a newer libc5 (5.4.33-7) from hamm, then you may install libc6. The solution isn't quite so simple. The libc5 from hamm DEPENDS ON libc6. There is a

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-12 Thread Scott K. Ellis
On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: The reason for my bug is to get the broken package off the ftp site. Before anyone else breaks their system. Guy, if everyone believes that 5.4.33-7 in hamm solves the problem, could you replace libc5_5.4.33-6.deb with libc5_5.4.33-7.deb? I won't

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Martin Mitchell
Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Still doesn't solve the problem of the hamm libc5 conflicting with libc5-dev and the bo libc5 conflicting with libc6. It is a compilation of different breakages here. My concern is for people who still want to do libc5 development WITH THEIR NORMAL

Re: status of bzip

1997-12-12 Thread Andy Guy
Guy Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Michael Sobolev [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Whoops, forget I said the above sentence, I can't seem to find bzip anywhere in Debian... My fingers automatically typed gzip instead of bzip when searching :-( The last time it was seen in non-us

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sick of trying to find a useful workaround for people who just want to install a few packages from hamm without upgrading the whole thing. There isn't one. I assumed you, as libc5-to-libc6 maintainer, knew that. Yes, it is theoretically possible

Re: status of bzip

1997-12-12 Thread Guy Maor
Andy Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is different becuase the lzw patent holders (HP?) have given a general license for non-profit use of the patent. That's true. It's Unisys that holds the patent, btw. The patent on bzip is moot anyway, as bzip2 does not have any patents on it. It should

glibc pre-release 2.0.6-0.4

1997-12-12 Thread David Engel
I've put yet another experimental, pre-release of glibc-2.0.6pre4 at ftp://ftp.ods.com/pub/linux. Please test it and let me know how it works. The upstream maintainer wants to release this coming Sunday so I need your feedback as soon as possible. There is an IMPORTANT CHANGE in this version.

Re: status of bzip

1997-12-12 Thread Paul Slootman
On Thu 11 Dec 1997, Guy Maor wrote: Andy Guy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is different becuase the lzw patent holders (HP?) have given a general license for non-profit use of the patent. That's true. It's Unisys that holds the patent, btw. The patent on bzip is moot anyway, as bzip2

Re: packaging agrep

1997-12-12 Thread Sven Rudolph
G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am planning to package agrep, a grep-like tool that allows to We have it already. I think it comes with glimpse . So it should be split into an extra package ? Sven -- Sven Rudolph [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.sax.de/~sr1/ -- TO

Re: Uploaded libtermreadkey-perl 2.09-1 (source i386) to master

1997-12-12 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Thu, 11 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Format: 1.5 Date: Tue, 9 Dec 1997 00:21:58 +0100 Source: libtermreadkey-perl Binary: libtermreadkey-perl Just for the case, that the module is called Term::ReadKey, you should choose libterm-readkey-perl for

Re: Is cp -a allowed in debian/rules?

1997-12-12 Thread Christian Schwarz
On 11 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote: I have a vague recollection of seeing some comments regarding flags for cp that should be avoided in packaging scripts. Perhaps this was in the discussion of bashisms. I don't remember anything like that. Debian ships with `GNU cp', so I don't see a

Re: Amiga port of Debian

1997-12-12 Thread James Troup
Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It most certainly is not. Hmmm? What's missing then, since we are running a perfectly working 1.2.17 system... Any sane Amiga installation disks; a non-buggy-pseudo-1.3 base set. And as of 12/12/1997, 246 packages have yet to be compiled and a

fes list

1997-12-12 Thread Hamish Moffatt
I have created a mailing list for discussion about free electronics software on Linux, FreeBSD etc. To subscribe, send subscribe in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]; submission address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] thanks, Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt, [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott Ellis
On 12 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Still doesn't solve the problem of the hamm libc5 conflicting with libc5-dev and the bo libc5 conflicting with libc6. It is a compilation of different breakages here. My concern is for people who still want

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott Ellis
On 11 Dec 1997, Guy Maor wrote: Scott K. Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm sick of trying to find a useful workaround for people who just want to install a few packages from hamm without upgrading the whole thing. There isn't one. I assumed you, as libc5-to-libc6 maintainer, knew

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: Corruption of utmp/wtmp is a MINOR PROBLEM. Many people don't care if the file is corrupted, they just want to use some libc6 stuff without being forced completely into libc6. How do I know which type of utmp/wtmp I'm currently using, my package

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Scott Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: Corruption of utmp/wtmp is a MINOR PROBLEM. Many people don't care if the file is corrupted, they just want to use some libc6 stuff without being forced completely into libc6. How do I know which

Re: Is cp -a allowed in debian/rules?

1997-12-12 Thread Douglas Bates
Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote: I have a vague recollection of seeing some comments regarding flags for cp that should be avoided in packaging scripts. Perhaps this was in the discussion of bashisms. I don't remember anything like

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: The change in utmp was made when libc6 was released. If your program is libc6, the libc6 utmp/wtmp functions should be used at all times. I'm using perl, reading the utmp 'raw'... (using unpack(), if that's familiar)... Is it 'login' (etc) one should

Libc5 compile machine?

1997-12-12 Thread Tom Lees
I know there is a machine which I can compile for libc5 on somewhere. a) Where is it? b) Can I have an account on it? I need to compile+upload a new cvs for bo. Please encrypt any passwords, etc., using my PGP key:- Type Bits/KeyIDDate User ID pub 1024/87D4D065 1996/08/26 Tom Lees

Package ordering for `dselect'?

1997-12-12 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Adam == Adam P Harris [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Adam [...] w/ pkg ordering stuff apparently coming in and (?) Adam dselect being dropped as the default installation Adam mechanism. Can someone add the package ordering to `dselect', so we'll have that until `deity' is ready to

Re: packaging agrep

1997-12-12 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Sven Rudolph wrote:' G John Lapeyre [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am planning to package agrep, a grep-like tool that allows to We have it already. I think it comes with glimpse . So it should be split into an extra package ? No. -- Christopher J. Fearnley |

PH Server

1997-12-12 Thread Syd Alsobrook
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello, I am wanting to setup a PH Server for my department but I can't seem to locate the software in the distrobution. Could someone point me in the right direction syd -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGP for Personal Privacy 5.0

fdisk3

1997-12-12 Thread G John Lapeyre
I can't search the archives. Has there been discussion on this ? I just answered a debian-user question about fixing a broken partition table. fdisk3 worked once for me in this situation when fdisk failed. Its not in my available file. Do we want it packaged as fdisk3 ? Begin3 Title:

Libc6 progress for contrib and non-free (Dec 1997)

1997-12-12 Thread Richard Braakman
This is a list similar to the Libc6 progress list, but for contrib and non-free. Because source code is not available for many of these packages, it will not be possible to convert all of them to libc6. This list has had much less scrutiny than the other one, and is therefore more likely to

Libc6 progress: 1997-12-12

1997-12-12 Thread Richard Braakman
This is a list of packages in the main distribution that need work to be fully libc6-based. I base it on the Packages file at my local mirror, so it may be a day or two out of date. If you have questions about why a particular package is on the list, or if you think there is an error, don't

Re: fdisk3

1997-12-12 Thread bruce
The author seems to have dropped the project after releasing fdisk3. There never has been a good user interface for it. Bruce -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word unsubscribe to [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Trouble? e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] .

Re: fdisk3

1997-12-12 Thread G John Lapeyre
On 12 Dec 1997 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The author seems to have dropped the project after releasing fdisk3. There never has been a good user interface for it. The interface works the same as fdisk , (which I often prefer to cfdisk). The lack of curses interface is a problem. But

Re: fdisk3

1997-12-12 Thread Enrique Zanardi
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, G John Lapeyre wrote: I can't search the archives. Has there been discussion on this ? I just answered a debian-user question about fixing a broken partition table. fdisk3 worked once for me in this situation when fdisk failed. Its not in my available file. Do

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Andreas Jaeger
Scott Ellis writes: Scott On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Turbo Fredriksson wrote: On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Scott Ellis wrote: [...] How do I know which type of utmp/wtmp I'm currently using, my package 'TCPQuota' is using utmp to find out the users online... That is, when (exactly) did the utmp/wtmp file

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-12 Thread Chris Fearnley
Moved to debian-devel 'Scott Ellis wrote:' On 13 Dec 1997, Martin Mitchell wrote: Wichert Akkerman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Huh? The upgrade path is quite clear: install a newer libc5 (5.4.33-7) from hamm, then you may install libc6. Maybe we can fix this by making libc6

Re: Is cp -a allowed in debian/rules?

1997-12-12 Thread Oliver Elphick
Douglas Bates wrote: Christian Schwarz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 11 Dec 1997, Douglas Bates wrote: I have a vague recollection of seeing some comments regarding flags for cp that should be avoided in packaging scripts. Perhaps this was in the discussion of bashisms.

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-12 Thread Scott Ellis
On Fri, 12 Dec 1997, Chris Fearnley wrote: Actually, I think Martin is correct. In order to prevent CDROM based 1.3.1 users from corrupting their utmp, libc6 must conflict with older libc5. Modulo my typo (Martin's = is right, not my ), I think my other post suggests the best solution. Of

Re: Bug#15859: libc5 in stable is horribly broken (fwd)

1997-12-12 Thread Turbo Fredriksson
On 12 Dec 1997, Andreas Jaeger wrote: Just use the libc functions setutent/getutent. They're available in both libc5 and glibc2. Sorry... I'm using perl, and these functions are not avalible.. *sigh* If you're never writing/reading the files directly (opening them), you don't have problems.

Re: Is cp -a allowed in debian/rules?

1997-12-12 Thread James Troup
Douglas Bates [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But consider the recent discussion of porting dpkg to other systems. If you were using dpkg on Solaris or HP-UX or ... you may not be able to count on cp understanding the -a flag. Fooblah. Debian is about systems integration; GNU fileutils is an

[From debian-doc] C-A-D entry in inittab

1997-12-12 Thread Charles Briscoe-Smith
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Enrique Zanardi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 10 Dec 1997, Thalia L. Hooker wrote: I wonder if it is a good thing to tell users that they can also use ctrl-alt-del to also shutdown their system? Suppose the user doesn't remember whether they set up their system

intent to package tkfont

1997-12-12 Thread Adrian Bridgett
i'm about to package tkfont, which IMHO is different in style to xfontsel (nicer in some ways, worse in others). The original description follows: It's a superior (IMHO) replacement for xfontsel written entirely in Tk/Tcl. It's much prettier and much more useful. And it's only 14k to

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-12 Thread Chris Fearnley
'Rob Browning wrote:' Scott Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you don't upgrade anything that deals with utmp to libc6, you don't have any problems). The problem is that maybe *you* know what packages those are, but most users expect to be able to upgrade without major system services

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-12 Thread David Engel
On Fri, Dec 12, 1997 at 03:19:29PM -0500, Chris Fearnley wrote: Why should libc5 conflict with libc5-dev?? It doesn't need to. The explicit version dependency in libc5-dev is sufficient. Would this scheme improve things: libc5 (stable,unstable): No conflicts, no depends (pre-depends on

Re: Bug#15859: libc6 in stable is horribly broken

1997-12-12 Thread Joe Emenaker
On 12 Dec 1997, Rob Browning wrote: Scott Ellis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I HAVEN'T HEARD ANY REASONS WHY UTMP CORRUPTION IS SO EVIL THAT WE NEED TO MAKE ANYONE WHO WANTS TO RUN A FEW LIBC6 PROGRAMS ON BO GO THROUGH HELL. Say you're an ISP running Debian (bo) on a bunch of machines

Re: packaging agrep

1997-12-12 Thread Roberto Lumbreras
On Thu, 11 Dec 1997, G John Lapeyre wrote: : I am planning to package agrep, a grep-like tool that allows to : : We have it already. I think it comes with glimpse . Oh, it is true, agrep is in glimpse! Well, I think prospective-packages.txt should be fixed... ... 6. Programs that