Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Miquel == Miquel van Smoorenburg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Miquel In article Miquel [EMAIL PROTECTED], Miquel Jason Gunthorpe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: fclose(fp); fclose(fp); This is not valid. fclose's behavoir on a null fp is apparently not defined, but exiting with error would be

Re: APT broken ?

1998-04-11 Thread Gregory S. Stark
So as I see it there are at least three cases here: The install is accidentally broken. Because we've all been living without apt for so long, various inconsistencies can arise. It would indeed be a great feature if apt offered to fix the problems. Since there may be many ways of fixing

Re: Upgrading from bo to hamm

1998-04-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 09-Apr-98, 22:04 (CDT), Guy Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LeRoy D. Cressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I question the purpose of leaving broken symbolic links when upgrading the libraries. For instance libreadline2 leaves the following broken links reported by ldconfig: Those

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, This must be rampant senility. Somebody just shoot me. Manoj == Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Manoj I have looked at the standards to shed some liight on this Manoj subject, and I failt to see any statements that a second flose Manoj is cause for undefined behaviour,

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 10-Apr-98, 18:00 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have looked at the standards to shed some liight on this subject, and I failt to see any statements that a second flose is cause for undefined behaviour, asuming you meant the technical term ``undefined'' when

Re: APT broken ?

1998-04-11 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
On 10 Apr 1998, Gregory S. Stark wrote: So as I see it there are at least three cases here: The install is accidentally broken. Because we've all been living without apt for so long, various inconsistencies can arise. It would indeed be a great feature if apt offered to fix the

BeroFTPD

1998-04-11 Thread Bernhard Rosenkraenzer
Hello, I've just released BeroFTPD 1.0.1, a wu-ftpd derived ftp server program fixing some wu-ftpd bugs and adding a few more features. Anyone willing to build a debian package? (the .tar.gz can be found at ftp://linux.net.eu.org/pub/BeroFTPD) LLaP bero -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ICQ/UIN 6545964 -

Re: base-files 1.6 (source all) uploaded to master

1998-04-11 Thread Nicolás Lichtmaier
I append my personal prompt setting scheme, in hopes this inspires someone else (any improvements greatly appreciated) Uhh..! You must have lots of free time! -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FILESYSTEM CORRUPTION

1998-04-11 Thread Stephen Zander
John == John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: [snip] John not umount local drives. Therefore, I believe it would be John prudent, as a temporary workaround for the kernel bug, to John umount all local drives before umounting network drives. It No, that won't work if the NFS mounts

Re: sleep contains crypto stuff?

1998-04-11 Thread Martin Schulze
Do we consider this as a bug that should be fixed in shellutils? Apart from that, I thought that gcc and tools are intelligent enough to only link routines and libraries to executables if there are routines from them used. If there are no crypto routines used in these programs (e.g. sleep), I

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Steve == Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve On 10-Apr-98, 18:00 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have looked at the standards to shed some liight on this subject, and I failt to see any statements that a second flose is cause for undefined behaviour,

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Gregory S. Stark
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- 1.6 Definitions of terms ... Permissible undefined behaviour ranges from ignoring the situation completely with unpredictable results, to ...

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Anthony Towns
On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 06:00:50PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: That is why I prefer to do: free(ptr); ptr = 0; -- (similarily for fclose).

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Herbert Xu
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: -- 1.6 Definitions of terms o Undefined Behaviour -- behaviour, upon the use of a nonportable or erroneous program construct, of erroneous data, or of inderminately valued objects,

[grave] libstdc++2.8 needs versioned dependencies

1998-04-11 Thread Dirk Eddelbuettel
severity 20033 grave stop I just received another bug report (#20978) on Octave not being able to run. I had already reassigned the first such report (#20033) to libstdc++2.8 which does *not* introduce versioned dependencies on its libs even though it is incompatible with the previous release.

Intent to package chameleon

1998-04-11 Thread Shaleh
This is a program that uses GTK and imlib to draw pix onto the root window, or just colors. It is like xv in this respect. it is fully GPL and has no problems. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 11-Apr-98, 00:12 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Gregory == Gregory S Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gregory Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: -- Definitions of terms ... Permissible

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, It is also a quality of implementation issue. I have no objections to am implementation documenting that a second call to fclose shall result in indeterminate behaviour, and then not catching that the structure is no longer an active FILE * stream. I do have a problem

HTTP mirror list

1998-04-11 Thread Jason Gunthorpe
I have an updated http mirror list, http://www.debian.org/~jgg/mastersoucelist Let me know if there are any omissions or errors. Thanks, Jason -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: FILESYSTEM CORRUPTION

1998-04-11 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (John Goerzen) wrote on 10.04.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Therefore, I believe it would be prudent, as a temporary workaround for the kernel bug, to umount all local drives before umounting network drives. It is generally not a big deal if a network drive doesn't get umounted

Re: What to do when dupload doesn't....

1998-04-11 Thread Heiko Schlittermann
On Fri, Apr 10, 1998 at 03:53:33PM -0700, Stephen Zander wrote: : : What's the appropriate procdure when dupload fails? Can I just : manually ftp the files to the appropriate directory on master? You can. But why does dupload fail? Heiko -- email : [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Number of Maintainers

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
On Sat, 4 Apr 1998, Brian Bassett wrote: After both Manoj Srivastava and Bob Hilliard pointed out to me the faults in using the Maintainers file for determining the number of maintainers, I have decided to use the Debian PGP keyring. After deleting duplicate keys, the keyring says that there

Re: HTTP mirror list

1998-04-11 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Sun, Apr 12, 1998 at 02:00:12AM -0600, Jason Gunthorpe wrote: I have an updated http mirror list, http://www.debian.org/~jgg/mastersoucelist Let me know if there are any omissions or errors. It's a shame we don't/can't have any sought of quality of service indicator in our mirror listing.

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Kai Henningsen
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Eloy A. Paris) wrote on 10.04.98 in [EMAIL PROTECTED]: According to fclose's man page, it will return EOF and set errno to EBADF if the argument is not an open stream. That is not what the info docs for libc6 say: Closing Streams === When a stream is closed

RFC: splitting debian-project off debian-devel

1998-04-11 Thread Christian Schwarz
As everyone here has probably noticed already, the traffic on debian-devel has increased again. (My debian-devel mail folder for March 98 is 8.7 mb large!) I guess one of the reasons is that a lot of project related discussions which have been hold on debian-private before, are now moved to

Guile packages

1998-04-11 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
I've decided not to take the guile packages from Jim Pick. I don't have the time, I really need to study more, I'm not up to the task right now. I have a nice rules file if anyone wants it. I've decided to put my energy into learning to use the RScheme system, rather than Guile. It's a

Re: Guile packages

1998-04-11 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Karl == Karl M Hegbloom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Karl I've decided not to take the guile packages from Jim Pick. Disregard that. I will proceed with the packages. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: intent to package Netscape Communicator

1998-04-11 Thread Gregory S. Stark
Adam Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The nice side effect of my packaging, is that in the original tarball, you have to download both the static and dynamic versions. My packaging has them split up. Also, -java is the same between Navigator and Communicator. Any chance of getting a

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 11-Apr-98, 02:26 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the point is not whether they implemntation can do strange and unexpected things; they can; but then they have to document it. BTW, in Debian, fclose says it returns an error, and does not mention corrupting

dpkg memory usage

1998-04-11 Thread John Goerzen
I was upgrading packages on my 64 meg system today ant noticed: PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 24785 root 18 0 12680 12M 568 S 0 0.1 20.0 5:36 dpkg Yes, that's almost 13 megs used by dpkg, and 20% of my RAM. That also is 4 megs

Re: (RFD) New list proposal - debian-unstable@lists.debian.org

1998-04-11 Thread Brian White
Currently it seems to me that debian-devel is serving two unrelated purposes. On the one hand it is a forum for developers to pick each others brains, and ask opinions of interested debian users. On the other hand, it also serves to monitor the status of the frozen and unstable

Re: Debian Bug#20445 disagree

1998-04-11 Thread Brian White
Also, how likely are the current versions of these programs to work with future versions of the unstable 2.1 kernel and the 2.2 kernel that will eventually come from it? True enough. But a Debian 2.1.x package and packages that works with it could be good for seeing and trying out. So

Re: intent to package Netscape Communicator

1998-04-11 Thread Brian White
I intend to package the new communicator that allow free redistribution. It will go into non-free(no source), but at least the users won't have to download the tarball themselves. That would be great! I posted a couple weeks ago asking for someone to help with this because I don't have the

Re: intent to package Netscape Communicator

1998-04-11 Thread Brian White
Just so there's no confusion: you're refering to the Netscape-branded product, right? I think we should use the following nomenclature - 1. Mozilla - Sources and binaries compiled from the sources downloaded from http://www.mozilla.org/ 2. Netscape Communicator - Binaries downloaded

Re: intent to package Netscape Communicator

1998-04-11 Thread Adam Heath
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Brian White wrote: I intend to package the new communicator that allow free redistribution. It will go into non-free(no source), but at least the users won't have to download the tarball themselves. That would be great! I posted a couple weeks ago asking for

Re: Upgrading from bo to hamm

1998-04-11 Thread LeRoy D. Cressy
Guy Maor wrote: LeRoy D. Cressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I question the purpose of leaving broken symbolic links when upgrading the libraries. For instance libreadline2 leaves the following broken links reported by ldconfig: Those symlinks are part of libreadline2-dev. If you

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Avery Pennarun
On Sat, 11 Apr 1998, Steve Greenland wrote: BTW, in Debian, fclose says it returns an error, and does not mention corrupting memory. ERRORS EBADF The argument stream is not an open stream. The fclose function may also fail and set errno for any of the

Re: dpkg memory usage

1998-04-11 Thread Steve Dunham
John Goerzen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I was upgrading packages on my 64 meg system today ant noticed: PID USER PRI NI SIZE RSS SHARE STAT LIB %CPU %MEM TIME COMMAND 24785 root 18 0 12680 12M 568 S 0 0.1 20.0 5:36 dpkg Yes, that's almost 13 megs used by dpkg,

bind bugfix for bo

1998-04-11 Thread Gergely Madarasz
Hello! A bind security fix package has just bin installed into bo-unstable. It is version 8.1.2-0.bo1. If you are using bind 4.9.x you should seriously consider upgrading. Greg -- Madarasz Gergely [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's practically impossible to look at

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Steve == Steve Greenland [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve On 11-Apr-98, 02:26 (CDT), Manoj Srivastava Steve [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, the point is not whether they implemntation can do strange and unexpected things; they can; but then they have to document it. BTW, in Debian, fclose

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Kai == Kai Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai Bullshit. Bullshit? And this is supposed to be a technical discussion? Can you not engage in civilized discourse without resorting to invective? Do you realize that is generally the case with a weak argument? Kai The

Re: Debian Bug#20445 disagree

1998-04-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 01:16:19PM -0400, Brian White wrote: Also, how likely are the current versions of these programs to work with future versions of the unstable 2.1 kernel and the 2.2 kernel that will eventually come from it? True enough. But a Debian 2.1.x package and

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Kai == Kai Henningsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Manoj Srivastava) wrote on 11.04.98 in Kai [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Look at the whole sentence, please. There are indeed no requirements for the program to behave in any fashion; as long as the Kai No. There are no

Re: Upgrading from bo to hamm

1998-04-11 Thread LeRoy D. Cressy
Steve Greenland wrote: On 09-Apr-98, 22:04 (CDT), Guy Maor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: LeRoy D. Cressy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I question the purpose of leaving broken symbolic links when upgrading the libraries. For instance libreadline2 leaves the following broken links reported

Re: Bug#20514: tetex-base: Much documentation missing.

1998-04-11 Thread Christoph Martin
Karl M. Hegbloom writes: Package: tetex-base Version: 0.9-4 Severity: Wishlist Will you please ftp the `ntex' distribution from sunsite and look through the documentation that is shipped with it, and see if any can be added to the tetex distro? ;-) Can you please assemble a

Re: Debian Bug#20445 disagree

1998-04-11 Thread Brian White
2.1 kernel-requiring stuff (and a current 2.1 kernel?) can be included under contrib. This keeps it out of main and puts it into the realm of user-beware. (Note: This is not to insinuate that everything in contrib is dangerous or anything, but just that you should think at least once

Re: Debian Bug#20445 disagree

1998-04-11 Thread Marcus Brinkmann
On Sat, Apr 11, 1998 at 03:18:46PM -0400, Brian White wrote: I was thinking project/experimental would be better, but I don't think that goes out on many CDs. From a logical point of view, I think project/experimental is the best choice. Why don't we include selected directories from there on

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Gregory S. Stark
Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Permissible undefined behaviour ranges from ignoring the situation completely with unpredictable results, to behaving during translation or program execution in a documented manner charecteristic of the environment (with or

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Steve Greenland
On 11-Apr-98, 13:27 (CDT), Avery Pennarun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The point here is that it's _documented_ to return EBADF if the stream pointer is not an open stream, and that's not what happens. This is difficult to enforce in practice, and is not necessary for ISO compliance -- so let's

Question on copyright

1998-04-11 Thread Bart Warmerdam
Hi, I am currently enhancing my sound recorder to handle compressed wave formats. To implement msadpcm (Microsoft implementation) i used the examples as provided by them. This carries the following notice: /** msadpcm.c * (C) Copyright Microsoft Corp. 1993. All rights reserved. You

Re: Is this a bug in libc6?

1998-04-11 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi, Gregory == Gregory S Stark [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gregory Manoj Srivastava [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Permissible undefined behaviour ranges from ignoring the situation completely with unpredictable results, to behaving during translation or program execution in a documented manner