On 25 Apr 1998 11:47:34 -0700, Guy Maor <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> I don't understand how this would work. How do you get the canonical
> ttyname from /dev/tty ?
Sorry, you're right of course, that didn't make sense.
I've looked at the way libc5's getlogin() works and it uses the first of
st
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
> On bugtraq recently itr was reported there were a number of bugs with
> the BSD line printer daemon... are these being looked into I understand
> redhat have already patched this. Also there doesn't appear to be any security
> information for either o
In my install this afternoon (up-to-date mirror) I saw:
Setting up tetex-bin (0.9-4) ...
cp: /usr/lib/texmf/xdvi/XDvi: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/texmf/web2c/mktexupd: /usr/lib/texmf/xdvi/XDvi not a file.
cp: /usr/lib/texmf/dvips/config/config.ps: No such file or directory
/usr/lib/texmf/w
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 11:03:10AM -0700, Guy Maor wrote:
> Is that correct? I ask because dinstall currently installs packages
> into hamm and slink by installing it into the former and symlinking it
> to the later. This causes unnecessary mirror traffic for those archs
> that will only be relea
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 11:14:56AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 01:40:32AM -0400, Shaleh wrote:
> > > The inittab setup is not different. However, the only way to switch
> >
> > That's not true, it is -- getty requires a speed,
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 11:14:56AM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> > That's not true, it is -- getty requires a speed, even for a virtual
> > terminate, while mingetty doesn't support that.
>
> Does this mean that mingetty won't ignore this argument? That
> should be fixed, in my opinion.
It should
*traditionally*, you openned /dev/tty, did an fstat(), and the kernel
filled in the real major/minor numbers for the tty you had; then you
scanned /dev/ (or wherever depending on how creative your system was)
and stat'ed things until you got a matching major/minor device
number. (ttyname did all t
> > Is it legal to have multiple partitions marked as active (at work a machine
> > wouldn't boot untill I removed one of those marks)?
> > If it isn't, a bug should be filed against cfdisk.
> Every machine I've seen won't boot with two partitions active. It is
> pretty meaningless.
So cfdisk
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 06:11:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
[...]
>
> In particular, it checks that all the files listed as alternatives, as
> diversions and in the dpkg database itself are all present and accounted
> for, and produces a list of things that weren't listed but are still on
> you
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 01:10:46AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> thanks for jumping to my rescue guys, I just about had a package built ;).
> Oh well. I'll have to go find something else to do... It's pretty hard,
> every time I think of something it's already there ;).
No, it isn't that ha
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A few days ago (maybe a week or so? I am too lazy to look back and
check...and it doesn't REALLY matter)
I mentioned an interest in xfstt which is listed as needing
a new maintainer and got no reply herebut I was told
in a separate discussion (which was the s
Fabien Ninoles wrote:
> That's the reason why I would like to see a
>
> dpkg --{remove,add}-files [--package ]
>
> option to dpkg. I think it's simple to implement to the package .list file> and can ease the task for securing local files
> from dpkg in addition
> to help checking the system.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Guy Maor) wrote on 25.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Roderick Schertler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
>
> > It's supposed to open /dev/tty instead of using stdin. This is the way
> > it works on all the systems I could get people to check for me, which
> > are Linux with libc5,
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> On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Dirk Eddelbuettel wrote:
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> >
> > If memory servers, someone took the package from John but I can't recall who
> > it was.
> >
> [snip]
>
> thanks fo
Hallo erstmal!
Hi!
Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> Is agetty used much for serial? I always use mgetty here, although usually
> because I want something more exotic like AutoPPP or fax reception.
I use it for a null-modem link to another machine. In combination with
putting lilo on the same
David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 11:49:10PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
>> David Welton <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > So why haven't we seen this enforced, or has it happend but quietly?
>> > I do note that there is no kemacs.., but there are things like
>> > krpm..
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 06:14:05PM -0400, krynux wrote:
> I was wandering, is there a DEC Alpha version of Debian linux or are you
> planning on doing one ? I know there is a RedHat version, but...
People are working on an Alpha port of Debian GNU/Linux. The mailing list
for it is debian-alpha@lis
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Anthony Fok, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
>Actually, AFAIK, Mitsubishi stands for "Three Diamonds". Mitsu is "three"
>in Japanese, so I guess that means "bishi" is diamond. :-)
Yes, it's actually a geometric diamond as opposed to the stone...
IIRC, some time ago it was decided that we should remove the /bin/perl ->
/usr/bin/perl symlink. Am I wrong?
The only reference I found in our policy manual is:
"...
3.3.4 Scripts
All command scripts, including the package maintainer scripts inside
the package and used by dpkg, should have a #
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Ok, trying to be "conservative", I have changed the default prompt for
root from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' to '\h:\w\$ ' in base-files_1.9.
I would really like to see something like '\h:\w\$ ' (or '\w\$ ' at
least) in /etc/skel/.bashrc. Would it be against polic
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 09:52:32AM +0300, Shaya Potter wrote:
> Probably because it's allowed, doesn't the FSF distribute emacs linked or
> with the ability to link out of the box against Motif?
"linked or with the ability to be linked" -- perhaps that's the critical
difference.
I don't think FS
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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> Currently the base system comes with that symlink, but I plan to remove
> it for the next boot-floppies release. Objections?
None. Just a question: Are there more files (still) in the
base system but not in any pack
> >My main point was this: if the GPL has this clause about the
> >components of a program being free, what with the large quantity of
> >programs being Qtized, why haven't we seen any action?
>
> Probably because it's allowed, doesn't the FSF distribute emacs linked or
> with the ability to link
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 02:50:49PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
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> On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
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> > Currently the base system comes with that symlink, but I plan to remove
> > it for the next boot-floppies release. Objections?
>
> None. Just
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 09:06:56AM -0400, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
> Linking with Motif of GPL'd software only allowed on operating systems
> which get shipped with Motif as an essential part of it (like Solaris).
> Which means that linking with Motif on Linux is not allowed. (I asked RMS
> directly
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 02:46:58PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> Ok, trying to be "conservative", I have changed the default prompt for
> root from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' to '\h:\w\$ ' in base-files_1.9.
>
> I would really like to see something like '\h:\w\$ ' (or '\w\$ ' at
> least) in /etc/s
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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Avery Pennarun wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 02:46:58PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > Ok, trying to be "conservative", I have changed the default prompt for
> > root from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' to '\h:\w\$ ' in base-files_1.9.
> >
>
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 09:30:04AM -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote:
> Incidentally, I've always wondered why there is no /etc/bashrc and
> /etc/bash_profile. They would be ideal for this.
In the default mode, which files to run at startup is hard-coded into bash,
and doesn't include those.
I always
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 12:17:25PM +0200, Rainer Clasen wrote:
> Hamish Moffatt ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
> > Is agetty used much for serial? I always use mgetty here, although usually
> > because I want something more exotic like AutoPPP or fax reception.
>
[...]
> I don't like the idea to switch to a
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 03:34:01PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Avery Pennarun wrote:
> > On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 02:46:58PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > > Ok, trying to be "conservative", I have changed the default prompt for
> > > root from '[EMAIL PROTECTED]:\w\$ ' to '
> On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:52:32 +0300 (IDT), Shaya Potter <[EMAIL
> PROTECTED]> said:
>> My main point was this: if the GPL has this clause about the
>> components of a program being free, what with the large quantity
>> of programs being Qtized, why haven't we seen any action?
Shaya>
Thanks a lot, you don't know much this means to me ( one tends to love
with a passion is linux distribution). By the way, thanks for the fast
response.
David
On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 06:14:05PM -0400,
Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Probably because it's allowed, doesn't the FSF distribute emacs linked or
> with the ability to link out of the box against Motif?
You're probably thinking of xemacs.
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Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You're probably thinking of xemacs.
[Or, as other people have pointed out, emacs for systems where you
don't need a special license to be legally entitled to use motif.]
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Avery Pennarun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> environment variables, I know. Maybe the "right thing to do" is modify bash
> itself to _default_ to the right prompt. bash$ is just useless, after all.
Excellent idea.
Just try to keep the default prompt from getting too long.
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On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 05:02:14AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
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> Anthony Fok, in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
> >Actually, AFAIK, Mitsubishi stands for "Three Diamonds". Mitsu is "three"
> >in Japanese, so I guess that means "bishi"
At 09:06 26-04-98 -0400, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
>> >My main point was this: if the GPL has this clause about the
>> >components of a program being free, what with the large quantity of
>> >programs being Qtized, why haven't we seen any action?
>>
>> Probably because it's allowed, doesn't the FSF d
At 09:28 26-04-98 -0400, Avery Pennarun wrote:
>On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 09:06:56AM -0400, Alex Yukhimets wrote:
>
>> Linking with Motif of GPL'd software only allowed on operating systems
>> which get shipped with Motif as an essential part of it (like Solaris).
>> Which means that linking with Mot
At 09:40 26-04-98 -0600, James LewisMoss wrote:
>> On Sun, 26 Apr 1998 09:52:32 +0300 (IDT), Shaya Potter
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
>
> >> My main point was this: if the GPL has this clause about the
> >> components of a program being free, what with the large quantity
> >> of programs being Qt
Don't flame me for this if it is obviously wrong..
it doesn't SEEM so to me...
Question: when does dpkg write the /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list ???
Situation: Package X has something in the post-inst script which
the developer knows will create file F, which dpkg will
not
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 12:11:55PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Avery Pennarun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > environment variables, I know. Maybe the "right thing to do" is modify
> > bash itself to _default_ to the right prompt. bash$ is just useless,
> > after all.
>
> Excellent idea.
>
> Ju
Nothing shows up with:
grep cpp $(cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/netstd.list) /var/lib/dpkg/info/netstd.*
Why should netstd depend on cpp?
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> As an aside, I am beggining to think that we need a better license, from a
> legal perspective, because with all the issues of shared libraries,
> "essential parts", and who knows what else, if someone would really try to
> challange the GPL in a court, I don't know if it would stand up.
>
> Sha
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>> As an aside, I am beggining to think that we need a better license, from
a
>> legal perspective, because with all the issues of shared libraries,
>> "essential parts", and who knows what else, if someone would really try
to
>> chall
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 01:23:06PM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote:
> Don't flame me for this if it is obviously wrong..
> it doesn't SEEM so to me...
>
> Question: when does dpkg write the /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list ???
>
> Situation: Package X has something in the post-inst script which
>
On 19-Mar-98, 22:03 (CST), Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On 18-Mar-98, 23:21 (CST), "Gregory S. Stark" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > For NFS and AFS, why not just log a message listing volumes mounted without
> > nosetuid and nodev. They're security issues regardless of what fi
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 12:48:39PM +0100, James Troup wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
>
> > On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 08:25:06AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > On Sat, 25 Apr 1998, Herbert Xu wrote:
> > > > FWIW, I just tried it on my Debian 2.0 2.0.32 machine:
> > > what means FWIW ?
> >
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 06:11:25PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 09:26:24AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > i am always not sure, wether my system is OK. :) sometimes it might be
> > useful to do a new installation (no update) only because then much of the
> > old unn
Shaya Potter wrote:
> What defines a standard linux installation. Each dist. in reality is it's
> own OS. Red Hat ships Motif, would it be legal for them to distribute a
> GPL'd program linked with Motif, and not for debian?
The GPL specifically forbids the OS vendor from making use of the
shipp
Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> What defines a standard linux installation. Each dist. in reality
> is it's own OS. Red Hat ships Motif, would it be legal for them to
> distribute a GPL'd program linked with Motif, and not for debian?
Only if the result can "be licensed as a whole at no
I'm going to be out of town from April 27th-May 2. If any critical
bugs come up on my packages, please feel free to do a non-maintainers
release. Note that I just uploaded cron-3.0pl1-45, which has a fix for
bug 21426; I don't know how long it will take to make into frozen.
Thanks,
Steve
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> If you think the GPL is wierd, you should take a look at the Motif
> license for Linux.
Looking...
And so???
Way less restrictive as far as linking with the library is concerned.
Alex Y.
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Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not a dpkg expert, but AFAIK modifying directly the dpkg databases
> (yes, almost everything under var/lib/dpkg are dpkg databases) is a
> Wrong Thing (TM) In the current implementation those databases are
> ASCII files, but that may change (and sure
Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> It is perfectly legal, apparently, to have a GPLed program use (e.g.
> shell out to) a commercial piece of software. It has to be - to
> disallow this would be very stupid indeed. And indeed, the whole idea
> of have standard APIs for program communication (l
Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > If you think the GPL is wierd, you should take a look at the Motif
> > license for Linux.
>
> Looking...
> And so???
>
> Way less restrictive as far as linking with the library is concerned.
You're talking about dynamic linking or static linking? De
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 04:34:35PM -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
> Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm not a dpkg expert, but AFAIK modifying directly the dpkg databases
> > (yes, almost everything under var/lib/dpkg are dpkg databases) is a
> > Wrong Thing (TM) In the current implementa
Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> with MAKEDEV -I you can create device files in the local directory,
> even within fakeroot.
No you can't. Making such files requires root permissions. Fakeroot emulates
making them, but from outside fakeroot, they look like normal 0 byte files.
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> Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > If you think the GPL is wierd, you should take a look at the Motif
> > > license for Linux.
> >
> > Looking...
> > And so???
> >
> > Way less restrictive as far as linking with the library is concerned.
>
> You're talking about dynamic linking or
Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First of all, there is no distinction between static and dynamic
> linkage from either Motif license or GPL point of view. (Well,
> actually Motif has one restriction on distribution of statically
> linked _shared_libraries_, for quite obvious reason - to
> Changes:
> base-files (1.9) frozen unstable; urgency=low
>* nsswitch.conf: Use "compat" instead of "db files" for passwd, group
> and shadow (Bug #10896).
I think this is a bad time to make changes to the default nsswitch.conf
in hamm. Historically the configuration of nsswitch has b
> Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > First of all, there is no distinction between static and dynamic
> > linkage from either Motif license or GPL point of view. (Well,
> > actually Motif has one restriction on distribution of statically
> > linked _shared_libraries_, for quite obvious r
Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Not exactly. GPL says that I can distribute a binary if it's source code
> of it and all of it parts (and libraries used) is available under GPL.
Please quote the relevant section.
Meanwhile, here's an extract from the GPL that might interest you:
> Please quote the relevant section.
With pleasure :)
> Meanwhile, here's an extract from the GPL that might interest you:
>
>These requirements apply to the modified work as a whole. If
>identifiable sections of that work are not derived from the Program,
>and can be reasonably con
Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it,
> under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of
> Sections 1 and 2 above provided that you also do one of the following:
>
On Apr 26, Nicolás Lichtmaier wrote:
> Nothing shows up with:
>
> grep cpp $(cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/netstd.list) /var/lib/dpkg/info/netstd.*
>
> Why should netstd depend on cpp?
rpcgen needs cpp. I forgot to remove the dependency when I moved rpcgen
from netstd to netbase. The next netbase pac
> > Why should netstd depend on cpp?
> rpcgen needs cpp. I forgot to remove the dependency when I moved rpcgen
> from netstd to netbase. The next netbase package will suggest cpp.
Great, thanks!
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