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> On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Mark Baker wrote:
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>> On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 06:05:51PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote:
>> > include the plural". Then all of the clumsy constructions using
>> > plural pron
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On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Mark Baker wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 06:05:51PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote:
> > include the plural". Then all of the clumsy constructions using
> > plural pronouns (they, their) to refer to singular entities (Leader,
> > Secretary, et
> "Avery" == Avery Pennarun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Avery> Why not /etc/profile? Or is that against policy?
Avery> Incidentally, I've always wondered why there is no /etc/bashrc
Avery> and /etc/bash_profile. They would be ideal for this.
My suggestion is there should be an all-
Hi
I'm a rather new and very happy Debian user, and some time ago
while testing hamm/unstable I came trough a problem I thought deserved
some time.
I like better xinetd than inetd, so I installed. Despite of it
trying hard to xlate inetd.conf, new services added won't cor
In earlier discussions, it was agreed that the proper location
for dictionary databases under the FHS would be
/usr/share/dict/.
Subsequently, I have obtained a copy of the FHS, and have
discussed this subject with the upstream author of the dictd package.
An abbreviated extract fr
Hi,
>>"Jules" == Jules Bean <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Jules> I'm not a debian developer, merely an interested lurker (I will
Jules> almost certainly become a developer sometime). Apologies if
Jules> you think I'm speaking out of turn.
Jules> --On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 2:47 pm -0500 "Manoj Srivast
On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 06:05:51PM -0400, Bob Hilliard wrote:
> include the plural". Then all of the clumsy constructions using
> plural pronouns (they, their) to refer to singular entities (Leader,
> Secretary, etc.) should be changed to use singular masculine pronouns
> (him, his).
"They" is no
Debian is a distribution of Linux, which is a UN*X clone for the PC. It
is also and operating system. Windows95 is also considered and operating
system by some. The operating system controls things like memory, disk,
and other hardware. You can have two operating systems installed on a
computer
Hi,
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Santiago> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- On 27 Apr 1998, Kai
Santiago> Henningsen wrote:
Santiago> Ok, "Only if the program doesn't support a site-wide default
Santiago> configuration and the package maintainer doesn't have time
Sa
Hi,
>>"Santiago" == Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Santiago> Well, I'm sure than 99% of people dislike current default
Santiago> bash prompt in /etc/profile. At least we could put the
Santiago> current dir, and maybe that 99% would decrease a lot.
Only if you truncate the stri
On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 10:37:19PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> I just upgraded to hamm. I have a link from /usr/local to /mnt/c/local,
> because it is on a different disk. For some reason the link was removed
> and a directory created. it also created /usr/local/share/octave and
> /usr/local/
Hi,
>>"Raul" == Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Raul> Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Raul> This only works if the name of the file can be anticipated at
Raul> package creation time, and where it's not confusing to do
Raul> so. But, yes, in that case it's a much better approac
Hi,
After reading the seventh revision of the proposed
constituion, I find that all my concerns and changes encapsulated in
my proposed amendment have been addressed, and I formally withdraw
the amendment.
manoj
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Hi
I just upgraded to hamm. I have a link from /usr/local to /mnt/c/local,
because it is on a different disk. For some reason the link was removed
and a directory created. it also created /usr/local/share/octave and
/usr/local/share/emacs. I thaught packages weren't supposed to touch
/usr/local? A
Can you use windows 95 and debian on the same PC at the same time.
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I suggest that Section B. "Use of language and typography" be
amended to include a statement similar to "Where the context permits,
the masculine shall include the feminine, and the singular shall
include the plural". Then all of the clumsy constructions using
plural pronouns (they, their) to
On Mon, 27 Apr 1998, Thomas Gebhardt wrote:
> Hi Austin,
>
> > Incidentally, simply rebuilding the acct package against the new
> > header files is a little tricky, since the ./configure script uses
> > sys/acct.h in preference to linux/acct.h
>
> Did you manage to build a acct package for 2.1.9
Hi there,
Currently, the "unconfigured state" for a Debian package is AFAIK only
reflected by its state in dpkg's status files. This leads to programs
that are installed in the system, thus can be lauchned by some user,
even if their run cannot complete, either for an obvious reason like a
missin
Hello,
according to the hints I wrote a Makefile which I woul ship with
the paper sources so that per default troffcvt is used to produce
HTML output. Invoking make ps/txt/dvi/asc produces ps/latin1-text/
dvi/ASCII.
My problem is, that the sources use pic commands and troffcvt isn't
able to hand
> Cc: Debian Developers list ,
> Debian policy list
> From: Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 27 Apr 1998 14:47:23 -0500
> Lines: 44
>
> Hi,
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hmm. I think I like the idea of the policy documents being the
> law, and the techn
> "Corey" == Corey Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Corey> After upgrading to hamm, I have experienced the two
Corey> following problems. First, gpm no longer seems to work with
Corey> my mouse. I have a PS/2 M$ Intellimouse, which used to work
Corey> fine as type ps2. I
On Apr 26, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 02:50:49PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
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> > On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> >
> > > Currently the base system comes with that symlink, but I plan to remove
> > > it for the next boo
I'm not a debian developer, merely an interested lurker (I will almost
certainly become a developer sometime). Apologies if you think I'm speaking
out of turn.
--On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 2:47 pm -0500 "Manoj Srivastava"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>>>"Mark" == Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> w
Hi,
>>"Mark" == Mark Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Mark> On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 01:49:33PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava
Mark> wrote:
>> I understand that one may want a little more leeway than say the
>> policy documents are writ in stone (I personally prefer that), but
>> to deny that and make n
On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 at 01:49:33PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote:
> I understand that one may want a little more leeway than say
> the policy documents are writ in stone (I personally prefer that),
> but to deny that and make no mention of any mechanism of enforcement
> of policy is disqu
Hi,
>>"Ian" == Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
Ian> According to the proposed constitution, the policy documents do
Ian> not of themselves have any power to override a developer's
Ian> decisions. I think that to allow this would be to hand far too
Ian> much power to the policy editor(s),
Ian Jackson - Debian Project Leader wrote:
> Please see
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/debian-organisation-0.7.html
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/debian-organisation-formal.html
> http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/debian-organisation.html
> for the latest draft constitu
--On Mon, Apr 27, 1998 8:02 pm +0300 "Liran Zvibel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> Hello,
> I have to hand in a CS (OS) exercise that uses the SYS V sys. calls.
> I tried the intro manpage that says:
>
>
>SVID System V Interface Definition, as described in "The
> System
Richard Braakman wrote:
> >The GPL specifically forbids the OS vendor from making use of the
> >shipped-with-the-OS clause. (This closes a large loophole).
> >So if Motif is considered a standard part of the Red Hat OS, then
> >everyone *except* Red Hat can distribute such a program.
Shaya Potter
2) If yes what would you include in the Makefile?
1. troff -> ps (of course)
2. troff -> what else
You could support troff -> html and so on if you use the troffcvt
package to do most of the work.
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Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> But you did need a special license to compile for Motif.
Good point.
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Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> As an aside, I am beggining to think that we need a better license,
> >> from a legal perspective, because with all the issues of shared
> >> libraries, "essential parts", and who knows what else, if someone
> >> would really try to challange the GPL in
Hello,
I sent it to debian-user, and didn't get any feedback (except for BTW2).
I'm not subscribed to this list (yet? (read BTW3)), so please send any
replys to me too.
TIA,
Liran Zvibel.
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Richard Braakman wrote:
>Shaya Potter wrote:
>> What defines a standard linux installation. Each dist. in reality is it's
>> own OS. Red Hat ships Motif, would it be legal for them to distribute a
>> GPL'd program linked with Motif, and not for debian?
>
>The GPL specifically forbids the OS vendo
At 04:14 PM 4/26/98 -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
>Shaya Potter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>> As an aside, I am beggining to think that we need a better license,
>> from a legal perspective, because with all the issues of shared
>> libraries, "essential parts", and who knows what else, if someone
>>
At 12:08 26-04-98 -0400, Raul Miller wrote:
>Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> You're probably thinking of xemacs.
>
>[Or, as other people have pointed out, emacs for systems where you
>don't need a special license to be legally entitled to use motif.]
But you did need a special license to
Hello,
I'm busy to build the wordnet package. After some problems in the
beginning I think the build process works so far and I get the
packages as I like them.
The wordnet sources contain some troff formatted documents. The
maintainer of the former wordnet release decided to support them in
Po
Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Well, GPL or less restrictive as far as source code redistribution is
> concerned. Right?
Unless you want to discuss the particulars of license details, yes.
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> There were really two issues brought up in this thread:
>
> (1) That the GPL required that other linked in software also
> be GPL licensed. This is false.
Well, GPL or less restrictive as far as source code redistribution is
concerned. Right?
Alex Y.
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Hi there,
I've uploaded some days ago a NMR of tm (Tools for MIME). However, as
I'm quite short of bandwidth, I only have emacs19 and emacs20
installed, and could not get from xemacs20 the list of files to
byte-compile.
I'd be grateful to an xemacs20 user (with bbdb and mailcrypt installed
if po
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On 27 Apr 1998, Kai Henningsen wrote:
> Santiago Vila wrote on 26.04.98:
>
> > I would really like to see something like '\h:\w\$ ' (or '\w\$ ' at
> > least) in /etc/skel/.bashrc. Would it be against policy?
>
> Policy 3.3.7 "'/etc/skel' should be as empty as
Please see
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/debian-organisation-0.7.html
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/debian-organisation-formal.html
http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~ian/debian-organisation.html
for the latest draft constitution.
If there are no more significant comments and
Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Santiago Vila) wrote on 26.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > I would really like to see something like '\h:\w\$ ' (or '\w\$ ' at
> > least) in /etc/skel/.bashrc. Would it be against policy?
>
> Policy 3.3.7 "'/etc/skel' should be a
Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Huh? If the maintainer wanted the file to be known to dpkg,
> they could have added a zero byte file to the paclkage (getting it
> listed), and then manipulated it in the post inst. *NO* need to muck
> around in /var/lib/dpkg. The cat idea is a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raul Miller) wrote on 26.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I don't like the idea of making dpkg itself yet more complicated.
Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I think that's the only acceptable way, though (as long as we take dpkg to
> mean dpkg_*.deb).
I was takin
Kai Henningsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raul Miller) wrote on 26.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
> > Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it,
> > > under Section 2) in object code or executable f
Paul Slootman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This is of course trivial to do by putting a clear screen escape
> sequence at the top of /etc/issue. Make it 25 blank lines if you don't
> want terminal-type dependencies...
Conceptually, you probably don't want to clear the screen for new serial
connect
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 24.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> of the old wording in the policy manual, which mentioned "onerous
> conditions" (of which this is one, IMHO) as a reason for things going
Nope. I really don't think it is.
MfG Kai
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Kai Henningsen) wrote on 04.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> It looks like it's fixed again. Thanks to whoever did it!
And now it's broken again:
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olly@lfix.co.uk (Oliver Elphick) wrote on 27.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> unix.hensa.ac.uksunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk
> wget http:1.97KB/s1.90KB/s
> wget ftp: 5.19KB/s5.42KB/s
> ftp: 4.2 Kbytes/sec
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raul Miller) wrote on 26.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Alex Yukhimets <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 3. You may copy and distribute the Program (or a work based on it,
> > under Section 2) in object code or executable form under the terms of
> > Sections 1 and 2 above p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Raul Miller) wrote on 26.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Enrique Zanardi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > I'm not a dpkg expert, but AFAIK modifying directly the dpkg databases
> > (yes, almost everything under var/lib/dpkg are dpkg databases) is a
> > Wrong Thing (TM) In the cur
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Santiago Vila) wrote on 26.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I would really like to see something like '\h:\w\$ ' (or '\w\$ ' at
> least) in /etc/skel/.bashrc. Would it be against policy?
Policy 3.3.7 "'/etc/skel' should be as empty as we can make it."
MfG Kai
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Adrian Bridgett) wrote on 23.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 09:53:54AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > As far as I can tell this license is DFSG-free; please let me know if you
> > disagree.
> >
> >
> > Copyright (c) 1997-1998 by Armin Biere.
> >
>
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Charles Briscoe-Smith) wrote on 24.04.98 in <[EMAIL
PROTECTED]>:
> The gist is this: most of the "obnoxious" advertising clauses in
> BSD-ish software specify a different sentence which must be mentioned
> on advertising mentioning the software. This means that if I build
> a
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marcus Brinkmann) wrote on 23.04.98 in <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> On Thu, Apr 23, 1998 at 09:53:54AM +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > As far as I can tell this license is DFSG-free; please let me know if you
> > disagree.
>
> This is weird, especially because of point 3.
I can
On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 02:50:49PM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote:
> > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
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> > On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Enrique Zanardi wrote:
> >
> > > Currently the base system comes with that symlink, but I plan to remove
> > > it for t
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On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Richard Braakman wrote:
> > Changes:
> > base-files (1.9) frozen unstable; urgency=low
>
> >* nsswitch.conf: Use "compat" instead of "db files" for passwd, group
> > and shadow (Bug #10896).
>
> I think this is a bad time to make
(Please excuse me for omitting the subject line in my previous mail)
Hi Austin,
> Incidentally, simply rebuilding the acct package against the new
> header files is a little tricky, since the ./configure script uses
> sys/acct.h in preference to linux/acct.h
Did you manage to build a acct packa
Hi Austin,
> Incidentally, simply rebuilding the acct package against the new
> header files is a little tricky, since the ./configure script uses
> sys/acct.h in preference to linux/acct.h
Did you manage to build a acct package for 2.1.96?
If so, could I get it from you?
Cheers, Thomas
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I would l
It may be a very simple question, how can i make the rescue1440.bin file
from my floppy disk (because on this disk i have put the kernel 2.0.33)
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Hi,
Huh? If the maintainer wanted the file to be known to dpkg,
they could have added a zero byte file to the paclkage (getting it
listed), and then manipulated it in the post inst. *NO* need to muck
around in /var/lib/dpkg. The cat idea is a really bad idea.
How come no one po
Raul Miller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> (b) The authors of ncftp writing a workalike for readline. [This
> course of action has also been taken by a few authors of other
> pieces of software.]
I believe I've said this before, but ...
A workalike (or, rather, `linkalike') for `readline' has be
On Sat 25 Apr 1998, Shaleh wrote:
> I also like that
> mingetty clears the screen when you log out. It is very professional
> looking. Reminds me of the suns at school.
This is of course trivial to do by putting a clear screen escape
sequence at the top of /etc/issue. Make it 25 blank lines if
On Sun 26 Apr 1998, Joey Hess wrote:
> Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> > with MAKEDEV -I you can create device files in the local directory,
> > even within fakeroot.
>
> No you can't. Making such files requires root permissions. Fakeroot emulates
> making them, but from outside fakeroot, they look l
Hi,
Fortunately I got you mail an hour before the install and I was able to try
your ideas!
Copying ldlinux.sys resulted in "not a boot device" (or somesuch) error.
Running the latest syslinux on /dev/fd0 resolved the problem. Thanks!
On Fri, Apr 24, 1998 at 05:38:21PM +0100, Enrique Zanardi w
Jason Gunthorpe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> First off, I assume Oliver is testing single files. Secondly wget must
> recreate a data channel when using ftp anyhow so the fact that wget is
> only using HTTP/1.0 would not be relavent.
Oh.
How.. tacky.
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Bdale Garbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> a significant way for slink. Any work on device file consistency in
> cruft would be well-advised to wait a month or three, until this gets
> done. I'd hate to see a lot of work go into whacking around with the
> current MAKEDEV since I can't guarantee that
On Sun, 26 Apr 1998, Raul Miller wrote:
> Oliver Elphick wrote:
> > unix.hensa.ac.uksunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk
> > wget http: 1.97KB/s1.90KB/s
> > wget ftp: 5.19KB/s5.42KB/s
>
> wget uses HTTP/1.0, so must establish a new
On Sun, Apr 26, 1998 at 01:23:06PM -0400, Carl Mummert wrote:
[added Cc: to debian-policy]
> Question: when does dpkg write the /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.list ???
When installing, when removing, and when purging, by the looks of things.
ie, currently whenever dpkg adds or removes a file belonging
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you wrote:
: with MAKEDEV -I you can create device files in the local directory,
: even within fakeroot. what about adding a list of the normal devices to cruft,
: and report obsolete devices, strange permissions, etc. this would require
: some cooperation with the m
On Sat, Apr 25, 1998 at 01:06:35PM +0200, Andreas Jellinghaus wrote:
> i realy like cruft a lot ! i strongly suggest to all developers to check
> their systems, and improve the packages.
Thanks :)
> suggestion to the craft autor :
> with MAKEDEV -I you can create device files in the local directo
Gnus lives a life of its own outside the various Emacsen. There
seemingly isn't a version in a released Emacs package that isn't
superseded nearly immediately.
Furthermore, there is a new release with some features I'm interested
in having access to.
Therefore I intend to package it separately,
Oliver Elphick wrote:
> unix.hensa.ac.uksunsite.doc.ic.ac.uk
> wget http:1.97KB/s1.90KB/s
> wget ftp: 5.19KB/s5.42KB/s
wget uses HTTP/1.0, so must establish a new connection for
every file transfered via http, b
[I originally thought this was a problem with apt, but it appears to be a
problem with HTTP transfers in general, so I am putting it on the devel list.]
Jason Gunthorpe wrote:
>
>> The HTTP transfer method now used by apt is slow and does not use all the
>> bandwidth available. By compariso
I have uploaded boot-floppies_2.0.5 to master's incoming. This version
fixes (almost) all known bugs, and includes the package selection tool
that has been mentioned here before. As it is know, only a few selections
are defined, so it's not of much use. I ask you to send your favourite
selections f
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