On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 05:12:00PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote:
If you want to run two httpd's, popd's or mta's, you'll probably have to
do more than the usual tweaking to the package setup anyway, so what is
really the big deal of having to:
1. `apt-get source foo`
2. edit various
Ben Collins wrote:
Now when dpkg first unpacks a package, it replaces binaries by first,
chmod 600 on the binary (I'm not sure why, but it does), then unlinking
it.
The reason why dpkg does this is because of a neat little hard link exploit.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/tmpln /usr/gamesxthrust
[EMAIL
And of course you can always do dpkg --force-conflicts. I believe that's what
the --force commands are really there for: special situations.
Broken situations. Sure, you can --force dpkg to overwrite files
from another package. But Debian prefers to fix the problem instead.
Hello,
I intend to make a Debian GNU/Linux Package from Fwctl. Therefore I will
have to make 2 Packages, one for fwctl and one for
libnetwork-ipv4address-perl. ipchains-perl is already a debian package.
I have obtened both from http://indev.insu.com/Fwctl/ and will upload the
files soon to the
Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[2] Debian doesn't create this specific hard link, but it should.
For example, my system has /usr/bin/perl5.00503.
Well, we do have perl-5.X, sans subversion. Which is admittedly not
exactly what you refer to, but I thought that changes in
From: Martin Bialasinski [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: strange behavior of dh_dhelp
Date: 24 Sep 1999 09:31:49 +0200
* Joey == Joey Hess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Joey You are under the mistaken impression that dh_dhelp is a
Joey debhelper program. It's not. Don't use it.
I found this was
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 05:59:07PM -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote:
The criterion should be utility.
wrong. we've had this censorship discussion many times before. the only
criteria for inclusion in debian is:
- is it free?
- could someone be bothered doing the work of packaging it?
if the
Or crossover cable.
Dave Bristel
On 24 Sep 1999, Ruud de Rooij wrote:
Date: 24 Sep 1999 17:16:06 +0200
From: Ruud de Rooij [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: debian-devel@lists.debian.org
Subject: Re: Conference! - around
According to Michael Alan Dorman:
Chip Salzenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[2] Debian doesn't create this specific hard link, but it should.
For example, my system has /usr/bin/perl5.00503.
Well, we do have perl-5.X, sans subversion.
That's good, but it breaks the upstream pattern of
In my understanding the bible packages belong into contrib *at
best*, since it's value to the public is at least questionable if not
offensive to muslims, buddhists(no not to them), hindus ...
youre trying to be politically correct
yuck !
i hoped for higher level of discusion than in
Here's what's been happening on debian-policy this week.
Please let me know if you think any proposals have a consensus.
Note: for details of the policy process, see
http://www.debian.org/~srivasta/policy/ch3.html. Also, this summary is
available on the web at
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:13:27AM -0400, Scott K. Ellis wrote:
Okay, then solve the problem of which one should actually work on the
standard port? You can't use update-alternatives if the software is
launched in a different manner. If you have such an advanced setup, it
isn't really that
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 11:34:28PM -0500, The Doctor What wrote:
I do not like the idea of a daemon starting up with a default
configuration that I have not double checked upon installation. I
consider automatically starting with no choice a misfeature.
I think I agree.
I got a rude start
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 04:26:27PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
Also use of computer in planes is discouraged and prohibited during landfall
and takeoff, as it interfer with the onboard radio equipement ...
This is a fiction perpetrated by flight attendants because many of them are
too dumb to
About security on the BTS:
Don't introduce a system with `pre-security', let's use `post-security'...
what do I mean? The following: Make every action undoable and advertised,
e.g.: if someone manipulates a bug in any way the maintainer gets an email.
I think that that's how it's working now,
* Ruud de Rooij ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990924 08:40]:
Michael Neuffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
* Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990923 16:15]:
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 07:32:50AM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote:
Couldn't sash include a PAM module that would change the password to
match
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 07:28:57AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Instead of each developer chose what packages are and aren't useful
to them, why don't we look at the popularity contest? A simple, bias-free
way of seperating programs on to the CD's, by
Am 24.09.99 schrieb joey # kitenet.net ...
Moin Joey!
JH dh_installdocs uses doc-base, which in turn registers documents for
JH dwww and dhelp. Thous it is a superset and should be used, no?
I would recommend using dwww and dhelp directly. dhelp#s parser is written
in C and uses a database.
Excerpts from debian: 25-Sep-99 Re: Useless packages (was R.. by David
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Is there any reason to think it's not correct? More importantly, even
if it is somewhat wrong, is there any reason to think it's not better
than what we have?
Well, accurate for the data it gets doesn't
The Doctor What wrote:
Why shouldn't *all* daemon packages ask these questions, and whether to even
run *upon install*?
Because we need to decrease the number of questions asked at install time,
not increase it.
--
see shy jo
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:02:44AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
The Doctor What wrote:
Why shouldn't *all* daemon packages ask these questions, and whether to even
run *upon install*?
Because we need to decrease the number of questions asked at install time,
not increase it.
How about add one
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marco Budde) writes:
Am 24.09.99 schrieb joey # kitenet.net ...
Moin Joey!
JH dh_installdocs uses doc-base, which in turn registers documents for
JH dwww and dhelp. Thous it is a superset and should be used, no?
I would recommend using dwww and dhelp directly.
Also most daemons should fail binding to a port if multiple ones are installed
and they automatically
start. So unless they have conflicting files they shouldn't conflict. Instead
of conflicting
each package that suplies foo-daemon should just spit out an warning message on
install saying that
Seth R Arnold wrote:
How about add one question: Automatically start all daemons: [Y/n]
If they answer yes, then no questions. If they answer no, ask as many
questions as you want. :)
Of course, the downside of this particular question is ... not *all* daemons
should be automatically
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Ben Collins [EMAIL PROTECTED], in an immanent manifestation of deity, wrote:
More specifically it is dpkg doing the breaking, but it's perl's fault on
how it is setting everything up.
You will note that these two binaries are in the perl package itself
[EMAIL
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Karl M. Hegbloom)
Subject: XEmacs21 project status.
Date: 23 Sep 1999 14:40:37 -0700
As I mentioned, I will be returning to work soonish... within a week
or two. I just verified that an anon CVS will work from master.
If anyone would like to have a look (please
Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
I inherited this when I inherited the package in November of 1995. It
was setup this way so that after the removal of the previous Perl
package and before the installation of a new Perl package, there was
still a Perl available. Since we always needed a Perl,
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 02:51:36AM -0500, David Starner wrote:
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 07:28:57AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Instead of each developer chose what packages are and aren't useful
to them, why don't we look at the popularity contest? A
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 12:15:06AM -0500, BugScan reporter wrote:
Package: bluefish (main)
Maintainer: Antti-Juhani Kaijanaho [EMAIL PROTECTED]
45747 bluefish:
This bug is about an alpha compilation error, which was diagnosed and
fixed in July. The fix is not yet released, so I'm talking
* Michael Neuffer said:
* Raul Miller ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [990923 16:15]:
On Thu, Sep 23, 1999 at 07:32:50AM -0500, Ashley Clark wrote:
Couldn't sash include a PAM module that would change the password to
match root's password whenever it was changed? Or am I oversimplifying
things?
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:39:41AM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 04:26:27PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
Also use of computer in planes is discouraged and prohibited during landfall
and takeoff, as it interfer with the onboard radio equipement ...
This is a fiction
Herbert Xu wrote:
You can easily override this on the command line or in the environment.
well...
Script started on Sat Sep 25 08:28:41 1999
lucretia:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.12-2.2.12$ ls -l /usr/bin/{,e}gcc
ls: /usr/bin/gcc: No such file or directory
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root
Marco Budde [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why? What is the advantage of using doc-base?
You may want to read the documentation of doc-base...
It is always a good idea to use a generic format which can
automatically converted to all useful formats instead of using one
special format. doc-base gives
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:31:08PM +0200, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote:
lucretia:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.12-2.2.12$ alias gcc=egcc
lucretia:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.12-2.2.12$ make bzImage
gcc -Wall -Wstrict-prototypes -O2 -fomit-frame-pointer -o scripts/mkdep
scripts/mkdep.c
make: gcc:
Herbert Xu wrote:
Of course not, if you want to change the compiler for stuff like dependencies,
you need to set HOSTCC. But for the problem at hand, which is compiling the
actual kernel with gcc272, CC works just fine.
Doesn't work either:
lucretia:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.12-2.2.12$
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 02:14:11PM +0200, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote:
Doesn't work either:
lucretia:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.12-2.2.12$ export
HOSTCC=/usr/bin/egcc
lucretia:/usr/src/kernel-source-2.2.12-2.2.12$ echo $HOSTCC $CC
/usr/bin/egcc /usr/bin/egcc
make bzImage HOSTCC=/usr/bin/egcs
Indeed it does. I was too busy looking for a way to do it in the
environment... Can one use this with make-kpkg as well?
---
Filip Van Raemdonck
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
member of the
Hello,
just in case anybody is interested, i put the deb package for fwctl on my
experimatel debian archive: http://sites.inka.de/lina/debian/
fwctl*deb (depends in libnetwork-ipv4add-perl) is a tool which can generate
ipchains rules from a higher level config file.
The package is not yet
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 02:23:42PM +0200, Filip Van Raemdonck wrote:
make bzImage HOSTCC=/usr/bin/egcs
Indeed it does. I was too busy looking for a way to do it in the
environment... Can one use this with make-kpkg as well?
Probably not, perhaps you can make a patch...
--
Debian
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 02:42:28AM -0700, Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
I notice that bash doesn't do any shenanigans like this. Is this a
relic of bygone days and I don't need to do this funky stuff anymore?
That would make things much easier for me.
Nothing to do but test :)
Ben
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 03:00:35AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
Darren/Torin/Who Ever... wrote:
I inherited this when I inherited the package in November of 1995. It
was setup this way so that after the removal of the previous Perl
package and before the installation of a new Perl package,
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:02:44AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
The Doctor What wrote:
Why shouldn't *all* daemon packages ask these questions, and whether to even
run *upon install*?
Because we need to decrease the number of questions asked at install time,
not increase it.
Bzzt. Security is
Estimado Amigo y
Hermano:
Cierto da una voz en mi interior me pidi hacer algo por este
mundo, el nico mundo donde podemos vivir.
Quiero pedirte en nombre de todos los
nios y las personas que sufren el dolor de perder a sus seres queridos,
como estoy seguro debes entender, pases este
http://www.linux-expo.com/international/index.html
bst regards.
Frederic.
Hello again Joey,
On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Joey Hess wrote:
Helen McCall wrote:
In the meanwhile; If you are prepared to accept funding from such a
source, there is always NATO. They fund many such things if they are
giving good participation to what NATO calls Sensitive Areas.
Weird.
Previously Atsuhito Kohda wrote:
From: Josip Rodin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
This bug is already known, reported, and is promised to be fixed in
the next dpkg(-source) upload.
I uploaded dpkg 1.4.1.11 yesterday which fixes this. It is currently
sitting in Incoming, so keep a close look at your
* Michael == Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Michael On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:02:44AM -0700, Joey Hess wrote:
The Doctor What wrote:
Why shouldn't *all* daemon packages ask these questions, and whether to
even
run *upon install*?
Because we need to decrease the number of
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:27:51PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
The proposal, as I can see it, is to write a PAM module that could
be added to /etc/pam.d/passwd to ask whether the just-changed root
password should be cloned into the sashroot account. And that's a
really elegant and clean
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 03:32:25PM +0200, Martin Bialasinski wrote:
Michael Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Bzzt. Security is more important than usability. We're not building
windows 2000 here...
Ii I install a daemon, I want to use it.
That doesn't account for daemons installed by default
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 13:59:16 +0100, Helen McCall wrote:
What is needed is for someone to compile a list of all Debian Developers
and their geographical addresses.
We're already doing that - see https://db.debian.org .
Ray
--
Cyberspace, a final frontier. These are the voyages of my
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 09:29:35PM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote:
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:39:41AM -0400, Branden Robinson wrote:
On Fri, Sep 24, 1999 at 04:26:27PM +0200, Sven LUTHER wrote:
Also use of computer in planes is discouraged and prohibited during
landfall
and takeoff, as
* Raul Miller said:
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 01:27:51PM +0200, Marek Habersack wrote:
The proposal, as I can see it, is to write a PAM module that could
be added to /etc/pam.d/passwd to ask whether the just-changed root
password should be cloned into the sashroot account. And that's a
Jaldhar H. Vyas [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On 24 Sep 1999, Siggy Brentrup wrote:
In my understanding the bible packages belong into contrib *at
best*, since it's value to the public is at least questionable if not
offensive to muslims, buddhists(no not to them), hindus ...
Um, I'm a
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 10:11:17AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
Ii I install a daemon, I want to use it.
Do you want it for personal use, or do you want it available as a
public service?
--
Raul
Joey Hess writes:
Ideally, if debconf were used, this one question would be asked the first
time you install a daemon, and all other daemons would inherit it
thereafter. Quite easily done with debconf..
That's the ideal, but what is the policy now? Should chrony ask a question
in its postinst
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 08:18:04PM +1000, Craig Sanders wrote:
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 02:51:36AM -0500, David Starner wrote:
On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 07:28:57AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote:
David Starner [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Instead of each developer chose what packages are and aren't
Greetings, I originally send this message to debian-powerpc and was informed
that this was a general problem. Any help would be appreciated.
--- Forwarded Message
From: 'Dread Pirate' Nick Rusnov [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resent-Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Resent-From:
* Raul == Raul Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Raul On Sat, Sep 25, 1999 at 10:11:17AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote:
Ii I install a daemon, I want to use it.
Raul Do you want it for personal use, or do you want it available as a
Raul public service?
If I install a finger daemon, I want it
On Fri, 24 September 1999 09:12:31 +0100, Matthew Vernon wrote:
This is all very well, except for those of us who email from work, and
have their PGP key at home...
Best point of all.
At work even on a private box my co-workers also have root
on it. I don't dare having my private key there...
Country Codes is an ISO 3166 country code finder. I'll upload it as
countrycodes. Here is some example output:
% iso3166 -d ftp.chiark.greenend.org.uk
Domain name : ftp.chiark.greenend.org.uk
Top domain : uk (Great Bretain (iso 3166 code is gb))
Sub domain #1: org (Organizations)
Helen McCall [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I have just been looking at the NATO web site, and they appear to have
changed for the better in recent years. Now they make no reference to
sensitive areas. Their science and technology programmes are now more
generally aimed at promoting world peace!
On 25 Sep 1999, Craig Brozef wrote:
Uhm, they did just bomb Yugoslavia into the stone age...
and
I hope that Debian does not resort to begging bald-faced liars.
Would it not be better if the money is spent on Debian than if on warfare?
--free software, not bombs--
ciao
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On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, John Lapeyre wrote:
: Dear Security Staff:
:I received 2086 connection attempts at several ports on September 22.
: The attempts were made from IP address pavlov.midco.net [24.220.0.13]
: The machine whose ports
Now that GNOME 1.0.40 is out for beta testing, I had a look at what needs
to be updated in potato.
Needless to say it would be great to have an up to date GNOME in potato
before the freeze...
==
Prerequisites for the gnome libraries
audiofile-0.1.9.tar.gz Audio file format
*Nathan E Norman wrote:
Mr. Lapeyre,
You do realise that pavlov.midco.net is part of the DNS rotation
http.us.debian.org?
No, I didn't. I was using the mirror. I am in error. Obviously
the connections to several ports on my machine were a legitmate part
of the transfer of data to my
Hello,
We can do, without GIF, animations and we can generate images from within the
JavaScript source file ( no need to send tons of requests).
The technique has been successfully tested with Navigator 3.0x, 4.0x
and 4.6, and with Internet Explorer 4.0.
This MAY work with Opera ( JavaScript
This is also a very big issue for those who install groups of packages during
the install. I know that I was recently bitten by this when I chose to install
a number of groups of packages, and didn't realize that the masquerading and
redirecting versions of inetd were installed. It took some
Hi all,
I would like a couple people to look over this patch I have made to SSH.
It creates a new option that allows ssh to lookup RSA authentication keys
in a global file modeled after the shadow password file. The intent is to
allow users to place their RSA ssh key into the ldap directory and
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