Re: ITP: ttyrec -- a tty recorder

2000-12-28 Thread Joey Hess
Takuo KITAME wrote: Description: A tty recorder ttyrec is a tty recorder. A recorded data can be playback with the included ttyplay command. ttyrec is just a derivative of script command for recording timing information with microsecond accuracy as well. Hmm, are you aware of bug #68556?

Re: How to get changelog file for a given _binary_ package?

2000-12-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 27 Dec 2000 08:49:49 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Rick Younie) wrote: Or add woody to sources.list and parse the Packages files locally. Since we have a Debian mirror, I decided to locally parse the Packages files on the mirror machine. Greetings Marc --

Re: looking for replacement for run (because of critical bug in

2000-12-28 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 22 Dec 2000 20:17:28 GMT, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc Haber) wrote: I am maintainer for run and console-log, and waiting for NM to complete. Unfortunately, run has a nasty bug that causes console-log to hang which in turn may prevent a clean shutdown. I don't have the expertise to fix this one

sigs, was: Re: ITA: xmorph

2000-12-28 Thread Toni Mueller
Hello, On Fri, Dec 22, 2000 at 10:43:08AM -0700, John Galt wrote: RTFFYI. It refers to bandwidth On Fri, 22 Dec 2000, Marc Haber wrote: The four lines rule doesn't apply to bandwidth. It applies to screen real estate. no need to quarrel here, historically it applied to *both*.

Re: Intent to Orphan: fakebo

2000-12-28 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 08:02:10PM -0600, Gregory T. Norris wrote: On the more mundane side, it doesn't know how to deal with BO2K, and upstream development appears to be halted (no mailing-list or CVS updates updates in a year). Yes. It's unmaintained. More details on the 'Unmaintained Free

Re: Openwall kernel patches

2000-12-28 Thread Robert van der Meulen
Quoting Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Has anyone looked into packaging the Openwall patches for the kernel? Their licensing is kosher. If nobody else steps up, I'll probably do it. I wouldn't mind doing it - i'm going to do kernel-patch-int, and openwall fits in nicely.. Greets,

Re: Linux Expo in Praha, Budabest, Warsaw Moscow (was: Linux Expo Road Show)

2000-12-28 Thread Peter Novodvorsky
++ 27/12/00 12:21 +0100 - Martin Schulze: Debian will have a booth in exhibition. Also we need to be reprepresented on all conferences. We need volunteers! BTW, I hope to see some non-russian debian developers on Moscow exhibition, because there are only two of us in .ru. Are there

Re: Openwall kernel patches

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 01:18:35PM +0100, Robert van der Meulen wrote: Quoting Matt Zimmerman ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Has anyone looked into packaging the Openwall patches for the kernel? Their licensing is kosher. If nobody else steps up, I'll probably do it. I wouldn't mind doing it - i'm

Re: ITO: catdoc

2000-12-28 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
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test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Chad Miller
I noticed that the FHS2.1 doesn't have /usr/man -- only /usr/share/man. On this box, there are... $ find /usr/man -exec dpkg -S {} \; |cut -d: -f1 |grep -v , |sort |uniq dpkg catdoc cdcd cflow dvidvi electric-fence fakeroot hfsutils libgdbmg1-dev liblockfile1 libmime-base64-perl lsof-2.2 m4

vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
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Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Vince Mulhollon
Yes, that was kind of my point. An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe make to handle dependancies). My point being, that yes I already use squid as a proxy server for a whole network of

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 09:13:32AM -0500, Chad Miller wrote: I noticed that the FHS2.1 doesn't have /usr/man -- only /usr/share/man. On this box, there are... [...] ...several packages that install stuff in /usr/man . Do these warrant bug reports? Yep, IMHO. We should be FHS compliant

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:02:52PM +0100, Dr. Guenter Bechly wrote: Hi, yesterday I updated vim-perl from Debian unstable and got the following error during installation with dselect: [snip] Should I file this as a bug, or could be something wrong with my Perl installation? Don't file

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Dr. Guenter Bechly
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:58:44PM +0100, Uwe Hermann wrote: Don't file a bug. There's already _at least_ 5 or 6 bugs about this problem in the BTS... Alright. There are just two wrong linebreaks in the postinst script. Ahh, this was indeed a simple problem. Many thanks. Guenter -- Linux:

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Uwe Hermann wrote: Don't file a bug. There's already _at least_ 5 or 6 bugs about this problem in the BTS... 9 at the moment it seems. There are just two wrong linebreaks in the postinst script. Indeed, a stupid copypaste error I made. Should be fixed in 5.7.019-2 which is

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Chad Miller wrote: I noticed that the FHS2.1 doesn't have /usr/man -- only /usr/share/man. On this box, there are... There are more problems, like packages usage /var/cache which shouldn't exist anymore. Wichert. --

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Chad Miller wrote: dpkg Looking at the changelog the dpkg manpage were moved to /usr/share/man in version 1.4.1.5, released Tue, 13 Jul 1999. I just checked and I have dpkg manpage in /usr/share/man on my system. Wichert. --

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Peter Palfrader
Hi Guenter! On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Dr. Guenter Bechly wrote: Should I file this as a bug, or could be something wrong with my Perl installation? This issue has been filed about 10 time (really!) and is resolved in -2 which is currently in incoming (yes, wiggy uploaded a new -2).

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Chad Miller
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 04:17:20PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Chad Miller wrote: dpkg Looking at the changelog the dpkg manpage were moved to /usr/share/man in version 1.4.1.5, released Tue, 13 Jul 1999. I just checked and I have dpkg manpage in /usr/share/man on my system.

Re: vim-perl update fails

2000-12-28 Thread Uwe Hermann
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 04:14:30PM +0100, Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Uwe Hermann wrote: Don't file a bug. There's already _at least_ 5 or 6 bugs about this problem in the BTS... 9 at the moment it seems. Guess you'll have a lot of fun, closing/merging all those bugs :-) Uwe. --

Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Nathan E Norman wrote: On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 03:05:50AM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: Martin. Yes. I tried. Do you think I'm a newbie or something? Why do you think the file is owned by root? It's on windows partition... Hold on ... this is an msdos partition mounted? If so, check

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Chad Miller
I don't suppose there's a easy way to submit a batch of bug reports, eh? - chad -- Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] URL: http://web.chad.org/ (GPG) Any technology distinguishable from magic is insufficiently advanced. First corollary to Clarke's

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Peter Makholm
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't suppose there's a easy way to submit a batch of bug reports, eh? Just do a for package in dpkg apt libc gpg bplay etc ; do sed [...] bug.template | mail ; done where sed do the right thing. That is an easy way, right? (say yes!)

Re: Another Grub question/problem

2000-12-28 Thread Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn
On 28 Dec 2000, Brian May wrote: Hamish == Hamish Moffatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hamish On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:23:52PM +1100, Brian May wrote: still haven't tried 2.2.18. The video= options seems to be completely ignored, and Linux boots up as if it wasn't there.

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Chad Miller
Chad Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I don't suppose there's a easy way to submit a batch of bug reports, eh? On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:17:40PM +0100, Peter Makholm wrote: Just do a for package in dpkg apt libc gpg bplay etc ; do sed [...] bug.template | mail ; done where

Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Chad Miller wrote: On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:41:28PM +0200, Eray Ozkural (exa) wrote: BUT gmc (and most possibly mc) will not be able to rename stuff, though you can move files ;) It's a bug for certain! Whoa. I don't understand that; what's the difference between moving and

Re: booting Linux 2.2.18 NFS-Root

2000-12-28 Thread Alexander Shumakovitch
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 01:08:00PM +1100, Brian May wrote: Branden On Wed, Dec 27, 2000 at 03:58:47PM +1100, Brian May Branden wrote: I seem to have problems booting Linux 2.2.18 via NFS root image. **2.2.17 works fine**, but 2.2.18 says No NFS servers available, giving

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Toni Mueller
Hmm. sorry to step in here, but On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: My point being, that yes I already use squid as a proxy server for a whole network of apt-geting debian boxes and after only a little work it works this could also be replaced by NFS, or a small

Re: ITA: abuse, abuse-lib

2000-12-28 Thread Arto Jantunen
On Tue, Dec 19, 2000 at 10:41:03AM -0500, Damian M Gryski wrote: On Tue, 19 Dec 2000, Edward Betts wrote: Arto Jantunen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to adopt abuse, if that's okay with you. I don't think I can handle the 'only 8bpp'-bug, thought. There is/was a project for

GRUB Questions

2000-12-28 Thread Bob Hilliard
Is there a GRUB mailing list, or is this the proper forum for GRUB questions? Bob -- _ |_) _ |_ Robert D. Hilliard [EMAIL PROTECTED] |_) (_) |_) 1294 S.W. Seagull Way [EMAIL PROTECTED] Palm City, FL USA GPG Key ID: 390D6559

Re: GRUB Questions

2000-12-28 Thread Neal H Walfield
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 01:58:09PM -0500, Bob Hilliard wrote: Is there a GRUB mailing list, or is this the proper forum for GRUB questions? bug-grub@gnu.org -Neal -- Neal H Walfield University of Massachusetts at Lowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp89c6oWkCJo.pgp

Re: possible problem with ftp archive

2000-12-28 Thread John O Sullivan
These files include such things as fvwm, koules and xbill. There doesn't seem to be any tools specifically for building packages. I know the source for all the packages is kept under the source directory, but these files aren't in their subcategory directory. eg we have

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread idalton
Anyway, what does apt-cache not do that you want to have happen?

Re: List of packages needing a new maintainer

2000-12-28 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Below is a listing of packages needing a new maintainer. I know that all the information is in the WNPP already, but I thought it would be a good idea to post a summary since the WNPP bugs were not CCed here. [...] Martin Schulze [EMAIL

Re: List of packages needing a new maintainer

2000-12-28 Thread Martin Schulze
Daniel Kobras wrote: On Tue, 26 Dec 2000, Martin Michlmayr wrote: Below is a listing of packages needing a new maintainer. I know that all the information is in the WNPP already, but I thought it would be a good idea to post a summary since the WNPP bugs were not CCed here. [...]

Re: List of packages needing a new maintainer

2000-12-28 Thread Daniel Kobras
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Martin Schulze wrote: Daniel Kobras wrote: O: manpages-de -- German manpages I'd be willing to take them, if it's just for the Debian maintainership and fixing the few outstanding bugs. However, Joey, I see you are also Please take over Debian maintainership.

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Arthur Korn
hi Peter Makholm schrieb: for package in dpkg apt libc gpg bplay etc ; do sed [...] bug.template | mail ; done You'd better use [EMAIL PROTECTED], else you need a very good asbestos suit ... ciao, 2ri

Re: What do you wish for in an package manager?

2000-12-28 Thread Arthur Korn
Hi Hamish Moffatt schrieb: Package X and package Y are not truely unrelated if they share any dynamic libraries, though, eg libc. So do you have any suggestion as to how this could actually be implemented? Even if it's actually desirable (which I dispute), implementation seems far from

Brian Bassett?

2000-12-28 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Michael Moerz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20001219 01:30]: I have tried to talk to Brian Bassett [EMAIL PROTECTED] directly several times by email. The first email was sent at least 2 months ago. The second was sent over than 1 month ago and since I have sent the third about a week has passed by.

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Josip Rodin
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 09:56:37PM +0100, Arthur Korn wrote: for package in dpkg apt libc gpg bplay etc ; do sed [...] bug.template | mail ; done You'd better use [EMAIL PROTECTED], else you need a very good asbestos suit ... Too late. }:) BTW your Mail-Followup-To is broken.

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Tommi Virtanen
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 02:08:08PM +, Chad Miller wrote: I noticed that the FHS2.1 doesn't have /usr/man -- only /usr/share/man. On this box, there are... $ find /usr/man -exec dpkg -S {} \; |cut -d: -f1 |grep -v , |sort |uniq [...] mpg123 Not. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]$ dpkg -l

Re: List of packages that could be dropped

2000-12-28 Thread Christian Kurz
On 00-12-28 Wichert Akkerman wrote: Previously Christian Kurz wrote: |dpkg-scriptlib -- dpkg-perl and dpkg-python (142 days old) Is any package using functions of dpkg-perl or dpkg-python? If yes, I think someone should take care of this packages and the bugs that are in them. If not,

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Roland Bauerschmidt
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 09:13:32AM -0500, Chad Miller wrote: $ find /usr/man -exec dpkg -S {} \; |cut -d: -f1 |grep -v , |sort |uniq Just parse a Contents-ARCH.gz file to find all packages that still have /usr/man. Roland -- Roland Bauerschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Brian Bassett?

2000-12-28 Thread Wichert Akkerman
Previously Martin Michlmayr wrote: to contact Brian as well. I'm posting to debian-devel now to ask if anyone knows what's up with Brian. He is alive, He uploaded a package on Dec 3, and his last message to debian-devel was sent from [EMAIL PROTECTED] on Nov 4. Big brother is watching you :)

Re: Bug#80544: [rename] can't rename dir with valid permissions

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Hi Martin, in the light of what has been discussed... could you please replicate the bug and report upstream? thanks, -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo

Re: menu-policy: education

2000-12-28 Thread Philip Brown
[ Ben Armstrong writes ] So, for subsections perhaps: ... Education/Language qvocab I'd love an Education/Language section too. I'm not really happy with any of the Menu choices available for my kdrill program, which is a vocabulary quiz program,and dictionary for kanji. The

'testing' dep conflicts

2000-12-28 Thread Sven Burgener
Hello I am running 'testing', upgraded from potato a few days ago. Two questions: 1. Why are packages kept back like follows? $ apt-get update apt-get upgrade Hit http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main Packages Hit http://security.debian.org potato/updates/main Release Hit

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: Yes, that was kind of my point. An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe make to handle dependancies). Not quite. dpkg-deb

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Glenn McGrath
Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: Yes, that was kind of my point. An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe make to handle

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 08:22:52AM -0600, Vince Mulhollon wrote: Yes, that was kind of my point. An analogy would be that we don't need dpkg because most of its functionality could be done by a mixture of tar, gzip, and perl (and maybe make

Re: 'testing' dep conflicts

2000-12-28 Thread Nathan E Norman
On Fri, Dec 29, 2000 at 12:10:41AM +0100, Sven Burgener wrote: Hello I am running 'testing', upgraded from potato a few days ago. Two questions: 1. Why are packages kept back like follows? $ apt-get update apt-get upgrade [ snip ] The following packages have been kept back

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:39:04PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: Not quite. dpkg-deb actually does call out to tar and gzip, and lets those programs do what they do best. It doesn't try to be tar and gzip and dpkg all at once. The UNIX approach is to build tools that do one or a few jobs

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Adam Heath
On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Same idea, different implementation. It is using (de)compression code that is shared with other programs. Being linked to it statically means it doesn't share the code. This increases dpkg code size. Will we one day see a shared libdpkg, with more

RFC: pools and catagories of packages

2000-12-28 Thread esoR ocsirF
Greetings, IANAD, but I would like to suggest an idea that I had. There has been a lot of interest in getting packages arranged by different catagorizations, something like the menu. Most ideas that I have seen so far seem to imply adding new fields to the debs, but his seems like overkill to me.

Re: Rambling apt-get ideas

2000-12-28 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 06:12:35PM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: On Thu, 28 Dec 2000, Matt Zimmerman wrote: Same idea, different implementation. It is using (de)compression code that is shared with other programs. Being linked to it statically means it doesn't share the code. This

Re: Another Grub question/problem

2000-12-28 Thread Brian May
Cristian == Cristian Ionescu-Idbohrn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: cat /proc/cmdline auto rw root=/dev/nfs video=788 nfsaddrs=192.168.87.130:192.168.87.129:192.168.87.129:255.255.255.0: Cristian ^ Cristian Am I seeing double or

Re: test -d /usr/man mail submit@bugs

2000-12-28 Thread Jim Lynch
Hi, In my (potato) /var/cache is... apache/ apt/ bind/ cracklib/ man/ man2html/ xfstt/ -Jim

Re: RFC: pools and catagories of packages

2000-12-28 Thread Neal H Walfield
On Thu, Dec 28, 2000 at 05:32:12PM -0800, esoR ocsirF wrote: Greetings, IANAD, but I would like to suggest an idea that I had. There has been a lot of interest in getting packages arranged by different catagorizations, something like the menu. Most ideas that I have seen so far seem to imply

Re: RFC: pools and catagories of packages

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
esoR ocsirF wrote: Greetings, IANAD, but I would like to suggest an idea that I had. There has been a lot of interest in getting packages arranged by different catagorizations, something like the menu. Most ideas that I have seen so far seem to imply adding new fields to the debs, but his

Re: RFC: pools and catagories of packages

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
Neal H Walfield wrote: I think that this is a reasonable idea, however, it only addresses a small part of the problem. I feel that a better solution would be to use a similar method to perl modules: a hierarchal name space. In fact, we We'll have better than that :) My tool will have a full

vacation

2000-12-28 Thread Eray Ozkural \(exa\)
I'll be off for a few days, so I may not be able to answer the posts in RFC: pools... thread. Happy New Year!! -- Eray (exa) Ozkural Comp. Sci. Dept., Bilkent University, Ankara e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www: http://www.cs.bilkent.edu.tr/~erayo

ITP kimberlite - was Re: High Availability..

2000-12-28 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 28 December 2000 17:23, Michael Boman wrote: Nate Duehr wrote: On Fri, Oct 06, 2000 at 01:13:50PM +0200, Roger Abrahamsson wrote: Hello.. Has anyone tried to set up any such debian systems?? I'm thinking of trying to set up two machines sharing the same raid disksystem as

[Fwd: Exim and DSL]

2000-12-28 Thread Art Edwards
-- Arthur H. Edwards 712 Valencia Dr. NE Abq. NM 87108 (505) 256-0834---BeginMessage--- I'm haveing some difficulty getting my network to accept mail messages. I'm using exim through a cicso router. I have forwarded port 25 to my mail machine. I am able to send mail to anyone. And I can receive