Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Jonathan Hseu wrote: Last I asked on #debian-devel, source-only uploads aren't allowed (as in, you can't just upload the orig.tar and the diff. With auto-builders in place, is there any reason why? They are allowed. See pine. There are reasons why source-only uploads

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Bramer
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 03:25:57PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 01:52:25PM +0100, Noel Koethe wrote: As a debian developer, I like an easier way to find and keep up with all the nice reports out there keeeping track of me. I think it would help myslef and

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 03:26:10AM -0600, Adam Heath wrote: On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Jonathan Hseu wrote: - Wouldn't the binaries be more trusted if they came from auto-builders anyways? So that way a maintainer can't just stick something in there that's not in the source code. I would

Re: L10n of Debconf templates

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Bramer
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:59:33AM +0100, Denis Barbier wrote: there are 2 ways for a package maintainer to deal with l10n-ed Debconf templates: either put all translations in a single file, or separate each language in its own template file. The former has a severe drawback, because when

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 09:59:04AM +, Mark Brown wrote: Conversely, I would sometimes like to be able to get my arch-specific and arch-independant packages built by the build daemons in order to detect build time errors that don't show up on my own system (missing build deps, for

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Noel Koethe
On Mon, 31 Dez 2001, Michael Bramer wrote: Hello, The point is to collect all informations about reports in a place that is well known, easy to know for new developers (i.e. readable in the developers reference) and kept up to date. yesterday I add a new status pages on request of a

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Bramer
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 11:23:19AM +0100, Noel Koethe wrote: On Mon, 31 Dez 2001, Michael Bramer wrote: The point is to collect all informations about reports in a place that is well known, easy to know for new developers (i.e. readable in the developers reference) and kept up to date.

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 02:05:05AM -0800, John H. Robinson, IV wrote: a clean chroot will solve that one for you. besides, the buildd's may still have an un-listed build dependency, from a previous build. It would still be nice to have the external check. -- You grabbed my hand and we fell

Harden

2001-12-31 Thread Edi STOJICEVIC
Hi, I would like to have some information about harden ? Where can i find how to use and configure it ? Thnx +==+ | Why Reboot ?? | | Use Debian GNu/Linux | | www.debianworld.org| +==+

Re: How to put files at a location determined at install-time.

2001-12-31 Thread Alexander Kotelnikov
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001 02:23:55 +0100 Marc == Marc L de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Marc Marc So, to be more precise: debconf asks the user for that location, and Marc puts it in the debconf-database at myapp/thelocation. Now, when Marc installing mydata.deb, it should read the

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20011231 10:35]: yesterday I add a new status pages on request of a maintainer: http://ddtp.debian.org/pdesc/maintainer/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your packages file is outdated. This page lists me as the maintainer for a package of which I'm no longer

Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread Penguin
How does it work? Broad overview: does it install a root filesystem and simply do a huge cp /mnt/cdrom/package /wherever then configure, or what? Thx :) -- Penguin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Girls are for pleasure; boys are for ecstasy.

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Junichi Uekawa
In Sat, 29 Dec 2001 14:14:15 +0100 Josselin cum veritate scripsit : I don't think all these packages should be swept out. Unmaintained packages that don't have bunches of bugs shouldn't be a problem, for example. No, it's a serious problem. Unmaintained, unused, and untested packages are

Re: my.debian.org

2001-12-31 Thread Michael Bramer
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 12:08:30PM +0100, Martin Michlmayr wrote: * Michael Bramer [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20011231 10:35]: yesterday I add a new status pages on request of a maintainer: http://ddtp.debian.org/pdesc/maintainer/[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your packages file is outdated. This page lists

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 11:09:50PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: On Sun, 2001-12-30 at 17:02, Julian Gilbey wrote: This package is correct as is, and the warning is harmless; the line of code involved is: return (c0||c255)? unexpected_char: icode[c]; where c is a char expected to be

Re: quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Joey Hess wrote: Jeff, unless I'm mistaken you've taken over maintainence of the debian packaging of quakeforge and you have fairly current packaging in the quakeforge-current tree in their cvs. I remember that when knghtbrd decided to remove quakeforge packages from debian, it was because

Re: What config file for a .pm perl module ?

2001-12-31 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 03:53:19PM +1100, Craig Sanders wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 01:11:15PM +0100, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: print Dumper($virtula1); [...] which is pretty much the structure you wanted. other comments: i still think you should use a field separator

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread John R. Daily
At (time_t)1009793105 John H. Robinson, IV wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 09:59:04AM +, Mark Brown wrote: Conversely, I would sometimes like to be able to get my arch-specific and arch-independant packages built by the build daemons in order to detect build time errors that don't

Re: What config file for a .pm perl module ?

2001-12-31 Thread Eric Van Buggenhaut
On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 11:16:03AM -0600, Colin Watson wrote: On Fri, Dec 28, 2001 at 03:02:29PM +0100, Eric Van Buggenhaut wrote: my %virtual1 = {}; [...] $virtual1-{$user[0]}-{$fields[$_]} = $user[$_]; [...] When running the script using this module, I get this error:

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Junichi Uekawa
In Mon, 31 Dec 2001 09:59:04 + Mark cum veritate scripsit : Conversely, I would sometimes like to be able to get my arch-specific and arch-independant packages built by the build daemons in order to detect build time errors that don't show up on my own system (missing build deps, for

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Junichi! You wrote: Unmaintained, unused, and untested packages are in Debian. If no one uses these packages, bugs won't be filed. No bugs filed is not a status of well-being. But OTOH no bugs is neither an indication that the package is not being used. -- Kind regards,

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 08:19:24PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Are we trying to force users to use binary packages that even the maintainer of the package has not tried to install/run ? We do all the time. I expect the majority of the packages on the machine I'm typing this on have not been

Re: quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 07:02:43AM -0500, Jeff Teunissen wrote: Jeff, unless I'm mistaken you've taken over maintainence of the debian packaging of quakeforge and you have fairly current packaging in the quakeforge-current tree in their cvs. I remember that when knghtbrd decided to remove

Re: Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 1:53 am, Tuesday, January 1 2002, Penguin mumbled: How does it work? Broad overview: does it install a root filesystem and simply do a huge cp /mnt/cdrom/package /wherever then configure, or what? As I understand it, when you partition a drive, it mounts the too-be root partition as

Re: Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Steve Kowalik | It then un'tar's the base tarball into /target, makes Linux bootable if you | said it could, and then reboots. There is no base tarball for woody; it then runs debootstraps which unpacks the .debs. -- Tollef Fog Heen Unix _IS_ user friendly... It's just selective about who

Re: Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread dman
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 10:20:14PM +1100, Penguin wrote: | How does it work? Broad overview: does it install a root filesystem and | simply do a huge cp /mnt/cdrom/package /wherever then configure, or what? It depends on what you tell it to do. It does all the basic setup of a system (partition

Re: How to put files at a location determined at install-time.

2001-12-31 Thread Marc L. de Bruin
David Z Maze wrote: Marc L de Bruin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: MLdB What I am trying to build are a couple of packages (let's call one of MLdB these mydata.deb) containing just ordinary files, related to a MLdB specific application. All these packages Depend on a generic MLdB configuration package.

Re: quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Jeff Teunissen
Joseph Carter wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 07:02:43AM -0500, Jeff Teunissen wrote: Jeff, unless I'm mistaken you've taken over maintainence of the debian packaging of quakeforge and you have fairly current packaging in the quakeforge-current tree in their cvs. I remember that when

Re: Source-only uploads

2001-12-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 02:34:56PM +, Mark Brown wrote: On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 08:19:24PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Are we trying to force users to use binary packages that even the maintainer of the package has not tried to install/run ? We do all the time. I expect the majority

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Colin Walters
On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 05:40, Julian Gilbey wrote: I believe that the author (Knuth) presumably thought c should only be between 0 and 127, probably not even that far, and we're using c as an array index, where we've only allocated 256 chars for this array. Right. Then it should be

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread elf
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to always explicitly declare all char variables as signed or unsigned; otherwise, you're just asking for latent bugs. IMHO, this is a peculiar statement. The type 'char' is best

Re: Bug 99208

2001-12-31 Thread Santiago Vila
On 30 Dec 2001, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: Please take a look at #99208 in the BTS, and give me some advice. The complaint is that there are a bunch of files in xpuzzles that needed to be marked conffiles, but were not. Then, when that was fixed, the result was that a whole bunch of files

Re: Bug 99208

2001-12-31 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Santiago Vila [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If only the location but not the contents of the files changed from potato to woody, you can use the prerm to copy/move the files to the new location before dpkg realizes they didn't previously exist. If both the location and the contents changed you

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Julian Gilbey
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 05:40, Julian Gilbey wrote: I believe that the author (Knuth) presumably thought c should only be between 0 and 127, probably not even that far, and we're using c as an array index, where we've only

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Colin Walters may or may not have written... [snip] No, the C standard guarantees that a char is exactly a single byte; i.e. sizeof(char) == 1. Yes, but who's to say that a byte is 8 bits wide? :-) -- | Darren Salt | linux (or ds) at | nr. Ashington, | Linux PC, Risc PC |

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: On Mon, 2001-12-31 at 05:40, Julian Gilbey wrote: I believe that the author (Knuth) presumably thought c should only be between 0 and 127, probably not even that far, and we're using c as an array index, where we've only

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Peter Finderup Lund
On 31 Dec 2001, Colin Walters wrote: and there's a small possibility that char could be some weird wide character thing, No, the C standard guarantees that a char is exactly a single byte; i.e. sizeof(char) == 1. I think he meant wider than one would think-character. A char didn't

Question about cdrecord and -audio

2001-12-31 Thread Adam Majer
Hi all, I'm hopping that someone has some experience with audio CD recording and can help me a bit. I can record data CDs without any problems but if I try the audio option I get the following output mira:/tmp# cdrecord -dev=0,0 -dummy -audio -pad t.iso Cdrecord 1.10 (i686-pc-linux-gnu)

Re: [Evms-devel] Re: RFP: EVMS

2001-12-31 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 01:33:26PM -0600, Kevin Corry wrote: On Friday 28 December 2001 23:48, Matt Zimmerman wrote: I have been using LVM for some time, and I am eager to start working with EVMS. Once I have working packages, I will be migrating some of my LVM volumes to EVMS using them,

/var/lib/dpkg/status file woes

2001-12-31 Thread Hereward Cooper
I'm in a strange situation, something (the last program I installed was fligh gear) caused my /var/lib/dpkg/status file to be deleted. Meaning apt/dpkg/dselect is unable to determin what packages are installed. I managed to manually write in the details of debconf and dpkg so that packages would

Re: /var/lib/dpkg/status file woes

2001-12-31 Thread Adam Heath
On Mon, 31 Dec 2001, Hereward Cooper wrote: I'm in a strange situation, something (the last program I installed was fligh gear) caused my /var/lib/dpkg/status file to be deleted. Meaning apt/dpkg/dselect is unable to determin what packages are installed. I managed to manually write in the

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Steve Greenland
On 31-Dec-01, 16:30 (CST), Peter Finderup Lund [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 31 Dec 2001, Colin Walters wrote: No, the C standard guarantees that a char is exactly a single byte; i.e. sizeof(char) == 1. I think he meant wider than one would think-character. A char didn't originally have

EVMS: shared libraries with unversioned sonames

2001-12-31 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sat, Dec 29, 2001 at 01:33:26PM -0600, Kevin Corry wrote: On Friday 28 December 2001 23:48, Matt Zimmerman wrote: I have already grabbed the latest release and started work on evms packages for Debian, though I haven't touched them for over a week since I have been away. I should have

Re: at least 260 packages broken on arm, powerpc and s390 due to wrong assumption on char signedness

2001-12-31 Thread Ganesan R
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 01:33:37PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: It can't be larger than 255 (precisely because it is limited to a single byte). The more I think about it, the more it makes sense to always explicitly declare all char variables as signed or unsigned; otherwise, you're just

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 08:51:20PM -0600, Colin Watson écrivait: On Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 06:43:57PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: I don't agree. In a perfect world, yes, we would have all available software packaged for debian and all packages maintained. But that's just not reality. It's not

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, Le Sun, Dec 30, 2001 at 06:50:16PM +0100, Bas Zoetekouw écrivait: It's quite easy to say that you can find dozens of such packages. Please be specific, and post the name of those packages/maintainers (take it to -private, if you want) but I honestly don't believe that there are many badly

Some Crazy and Happier Ideas for 2002

2001-12-31 Thread
Hi, I hereby restart my long-forgotten, yet ancient, tradition of posting ridiculous mails to this newsgroup. Why ? I believe in the allmighty power of self-organisation :P And have to work till 11pm 31/12/01 until 07am today 01/01/2002. I'm not looking to cause flame-wars, rants or what so

Re: Debian installer

2001-12-31 Thread Steve Kowalik
At 2:08 pm, Tuesday, January 1 2002, Tollef Fog Heen mumbled: | It then un'tar's the base tarball into /target, makes Linux bootable if you | said it could, and then reboots. There is no base tarball for woody; it then runs debootstraps which unpacks the .debs. Okay, I should add that it

Re: quake I for woody

2001-12-31 Thread Joseph Carter
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 11:51:44AM -0500, Jeff Teunissen wrote: The stuff outside I have done. Back in March or so I designed a nice, complex, and complete system for handling gamedata. It would work as long as an engine using it had fs_* Cvars and config files. Unless of course you did

Re: Preparing a Proposal: 3 DD needed for every NEW package

2001-12-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Mon, Dec 31, 2001 at 05:09:06PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa wrote: Unmaintained, unused, and untested packages are in Debian. If no one uses these packages, bugs won't be filed. If no one uses the package, the bugs are not a problem! :-) Hamish -- Hamish Moffatt VK3SB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL

Re: visual c

2001-12-31 Thread Francois Gouget
On Sat, 29 Dec 2001, Erik Steffl wrote: [...] there is also a number of other libraries (for GUI), I don't think you have to use ms libs, you can use e.g. wxwindows, qt etc..., also, if the application doesn't have complicated gui the porting might be fairly easy... (it also depends on how

Feliz año debianeño

2001-12-31 Thread Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez
Feliz año a todos los locos desarrolladores que como yo pones su granitos de arena en esa hermosa locura que es el Proyecto Debian, Un abrazo -- Javier Viñuales Gutiérrez [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] GnuPG public key:'finger [EMAIL PROTECTED]'

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