Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Oohara Yuuma
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:03:58 +0100, Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As some of you probably know, some people are in the process of > installing a Sourceforge site on a Debian machine. It will consist of > a slightly patched version of the 2.6 branch of the Debian package > "sourceforge"

Re: DAM approval wait time?

2002-11-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 11:58:38AM +1100, Andrew Lau wrote: > Like you and everyone else here, I too am entitled to form an opinion > of my own and be able to express them in a public forum. Surely you aren't suggesting that everyone has a right to post opinions about any subject on debian-devel

in DC this weekend

2002-11-27 Thread Joey Hess
I'm in DC this weekend, if anyone would like to go do lunch on Friday or Saturday or something like that. -- see shy jo pgpfwg45vKUQl.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread Joey Hess
martin f krafft wrote: > from what i understood. gpg-agent hooks into gpg like ssh-agent into > ssh and you can't get at the passphrase. correct me if this is wrong. By this I assume you mean it does something like store the passphrase in non-swappable memory and then when requested use some form

Incommunicado for a bit

2002-11-27 Thread Manoj Srivastava
Hi Folks, I have just relocated. Unfortunately, the DSL folks report huge backlogs, and are unable to provide me a connection; so I'll be off the network until they do come in and connect me. I am going to be in Washington, DC for 2.5 weeks in December, and may be able to parti

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 05:00:55PM -0600, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > The problem is, every character in Unicode, all 70,000 of them, has a > distinct set of properties. UnicodeData.txt is basically a listing of > those properties. If it is a copyrightable work, That's a big if, and the answer may

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Branden Robinson
[Jim trimmed from CC; I'm not sure why his address was in your M-F-T.] On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:43:33AM +1100, Brian May wrote: > Just out of curiosity, are documents like the DFSG distrubuted with > Debian? Well, certainly some documents "like" the DFSG might be distributed as part of the Debi

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 05:34:20PM -0800, Sean 'Shaleh' Perry wrote: > On Wednesday 27 November 2002 02:03, Roland Mas wrote: > > Current candidates include: > > > > hey how about something much less cryptic like "forge". Nothing worse than > having to guess what woman's name some silly coder na

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:26:24PM +0100, Michael Bramer wrote: > IMHO this changes of the translation is the big problem. > > And the server translate the description not on a package base. If I > templates file has 10 templates, the server will submit 10 bug reports > per language. I'm sure p

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Sean 'Shaleh' Perry
On Wednesday 27 November 2002 02:03, Roland Mas wrote: > Current candidates include: > hey how about something much less cryptic like "forge". Nothing worse than having to guess what woman's name some silly coder named the program I am looking for. And since most of us aren't French the names

Re: Bug#170987: ITP: gtk-xfce-engine -- A GTK+-2.0 theme engine for Xfce

2002-11-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 16:09, Martin Loschwitz wrote: > * Package name: gtk-xfce-engine We've standardized on a naming convention for GTK+ 2 engines; this package should be named gtk2-engines-xfce. See the archives of -gtk-gnome for more info. Thanks.

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Joey Hess
Michael Bramer wrote: > The ddtp will produce also po-debconf files in future. I must only write > some scripts for it... I did something like: for lang in cs da de es fr hu it ja nl pl pt_BR ru ; do wget http://ddtp.debian.org/debconf/template_unstable/base-config/templates-$lang; done rename

Re: DAM approval wait time?

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew Lau
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:21:40PM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > > A bit hypocritical of you pointing out that I was > > participating in my own thread late. > > Not at all. The thread I refer to is the now-very-large "Are we > losing users to Gentoo" thread, which you have not participated in > s

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.27.2317 +0100]: > What is the security model of each, and why is one better then > the other? quintuple-agent simply echoes the passphrase onto fd0, to be picked up by another program through a piper. qagent get gpg | cat or so reveals your pa

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-11-27 Thread Stephen Zander
> "Brian" == Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: Brian> errr... shouldn't you decide on the name first, then file Brian> bug reports? A reasonable point & I'll do so. I don't, however, expect the name to change as that would introduce a third virtual package into the mix. Tow, java-

[desktop] graphical su-to-root (was: Re: [desktop] foomatic-gui is born)

2002-11-27 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Wed, 27 Nov 2002 10:13:22 -0200, Gustavo Noronha Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > I'm willing to work towards this, and I think it would be good to > create some policy for that, probably modify the su-to-root script > to use a "graphical su" alternative if $DISPLAY is set... Something l

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-27 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Nov 28, 2002 at 09:55:52AM +1100, Brian May wrote: Ideally have some way for the user to override the default choice if automatic selection fails... Can you detect smp from non-smp kernel? Mike Stone

perl error

2002-11-27 Thread Sergio Rua
Hello, I'm packaging the new version of openwebmail and I received this error message: WARNING! The perl on your system has serious bug in routine tell()! While openwebmail can work properly with this bug, other perl application may not function properly and thus cause data loss. We sug

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread starner
>> Does this mean every unicode text editor belongs in contrib (depends on >> something non-free)? > >Many (perhaps all) RFCs are non-free as well; does that mean that >compliant implementations must go into contrib or non-free? The problem is, every character in Unicode, all 70,000 of them, has a

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:53:00PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Jim Penny wrote: > > > I see no problem with this license as far as it goes, but it doesn't go > > > far enough. > > > > > > There is no permission granted to make modifications (and distr

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-27 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:46:20PM -0800, Vonsur Kcin wrote: > *) > echo 386 Ideally have some way for the user to override the default choice if automatic selection fails... -- Brian May <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Re: Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-11-27 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:33:49AM -0800, Stephen Zander wrote: > To that end I will be filing important bugs against any lib*-java > package that does not depend on either java1-runtime or java2-runtime > (should the package required features of the standard java.* classes > that are only included

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Jim Penny wrote: > So, according to Branden, international standards are supposed to allow > debian the right to modify them and to distribute the modified versions. > Absent said permission, which is hardly ever going to be given, they > must be consi

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Michael Bramer
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 02:23:56PM +0100, Simon Richter wrote: > Javier/Michael, > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 02:04:28PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña > wrote: > > > some other with this opinion? > > > I believe most Debian Developers share this opinion. The BTS is > > the place to ke

Re: Ian Jackson in New Zealand

2002-11-27 Thread Ian Jackson
I wrote: > > Work are sending me to Asiacrypt, which is in Queenstown from the > > 1st to the 5th of December. I'm also going to be taking some time > > in NZ for sightseeing etc. [...] If anyone in NZ would like to > > meet up please let me know ASAP. It'd be good to go out for a > > drink or

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread Brian May
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 06:22:55PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > > Have you looked at quintuple-agent? > > it's a horrible security threat. i am not going to give my GPG > passphrase to that thing! i've heard that gpg-agent can do better... What is the security model of each, and why is one bet

Re: [desktop] foomatic-gui is born

2002-11-27 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Nov 27, Gustavo Noronha Silva wrote: > It would be good if we had a standard way of doing that... I talked to > walters about this some weeks ago, and he suggested it would be a good > thing to merge xsu, gnome-sudo and gksu (maybe others?). > > I'm willing to work towards this, and I think it

Re: [desktop] foomatic-gui is born

2002-11-27 Thread Chris Lawrence
On Nov 27, Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo wrote: > And why not use GST backends instead of rewriting them? They can be > get as an independent module from GNOME CVS. Perhaps I should package > them separately to show that they're not stuck with GNOME System > Tools, so they can also be used to wri

Bug#170990: ITP: pyslsk -- A client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer sharing system

2002-11-27 Thread Josselin Mouette
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name : pyslsk Version : 0.4.9b Upstream Author : Alexander Kanavin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.sensi.org/~ak/pyslsk/ * License : GPL Description : A client for the SoulSeek peer-to-peer sharing system PySoulSeek is

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:23:51PM -0500, Jim Penny wrote: > > I see no problem with this license as far as it goes, but it doesn't go > > far enough. > > > > There is no permission granted to make modifications (and distribute > > modified versions). (DFSG 3) > > So, according to Branden, inter

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-27 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:46:20PM -0800, Vonsur Kcin wrote: > cpuid=sed -ne 's/^model name.*: //p' < /proc/cpuinfo just don't forget the backticks :) > case "$cpuid" in > "AMD Athlon"*) > echo k7 > ;; yeah, even simpler than i was thinking! sean pgpVsp5bfIinX.pgp D

Re: DAM approval wait time?

2002-11-27 Thread sean finney
excuse me for voicing up here, but this seems like something that didn't need to be sent to the entire debian-devel mailing list. granted, i'm not even a developer, but i get the impression this is more the result of you two not getting along and less having to do with his ability to be a producti

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Jim Penny
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 03:54:35PM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:59:00PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:50:10AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > > Heh. There's another: > > > > > > miscfiles: /usr/share/misc/unicode.gz > > > > >

Bug#170985: ITP: xffm4 -- File manager for the Xfce4 desktop environment

2002-11-27 Thread Martin Loschwitz
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-27 Severity: wishlist * Package name: xffm4 Version : 4.0.0+cvs.20021127 Upstream Author : Biju Chacko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.xfce.org/ * License : GPL Description : File manager f

Bug#170987: ITP: gtk-xfce-engine -- A GTK+-2.0 theme engine for Xfce

2002-11-27 Thread Martin Loschwitz
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-27 Severity: wishlist * Package name: gtk-xfce-engine Version : 2.0.10+cvs.20021127 Upstream Author : Olivier Fourdan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.xfce.org/ * License : GPL Description :

Bug#170988: ITP: libdbh1.0-1 -- Creates disk based hashtables

2002-11-27 Thread Martin Loschwitz
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-27 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libdbh1.0-1 Version : 1.0.11 Upstream Author : Edscott Wilson Garcia <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://dbh.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : Creates di

Re: DAM approval wait time?

2002-11-27 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:21:40PM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: [SNIP] > I was hoping you'd say that, but you still have growing up to do. > > > Are you expecting me to prove myself to you in some way? > > Given some contradictory statements you've made... as a matter of fact, > I am expecting y

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:46:20PM -0800, Vonsur Kcin wrote: > case "$cpuid" in > "AMD Athlon"*) > echo k7 > ;; > "AMD K6"*) > echo k6 > ;; > "Celeron"*) > echo 686 > ;; > "Pentium "*) > echo 586tsc > ;; > *) > echo 386 > es

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:59:00PM +0200, Richard Braakman wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:50:10AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Heh. There's another: > > > > miscfiles: /usr/share/misc/unicode.gz > > > > The current version is Unicode 3.1.1. > > According to http://www.unicode.org

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-27 Thread Vonsur Kcin
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 03:22:12PM -0500, sean finney wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:25:35PM +0100, Thomas Lange wrote: > > Is there a script, that can automaticly determine the best or correct > > name of the kernel-image that should be installed? > > > > I think something with grep and sed

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 27, Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> where can i find gpg-agent? is it packaged for debian? if not, then >> i'll file an ITP unless someone has valid things to say against that. >Have you looked at quintuple-agent? Yes, it does not work well. -- ciao, Marco pgpJEumUmpXWb.p

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Denis Barbier
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 01:03:59AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 01:41:34AM +0100, Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis > wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 05:54:21PM -0600, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > We've started the translation of debconf templates some weeks ago. > > > >

Re: DAM approval wait time?

2002-11-27 Thread Jim Lynch
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 22:52:16 +1100 Andrew Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 08:01:26AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > > But what are you actually going to -do-? If I recall correctly, > > you've said on IRC that you aren't or don't want to be a coder > > (correct me if I'm wrong)

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-27 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:25:35PM +0100, Thomas Lange wrote: > Is there a script, that can automaticly determine the best or correct > name of the kernel-image that should be installed? > > I think something with grep and sed from /proc/cpuinfo should write > k7, k6, 586tsc or someing else to std

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:25:35PM +0100, Thomas Lange wrote: > Is there a script, that can automaticly determine the best or correct > name of the kernel-image that should be installed? > > I think something with grep and sed from /proc/cpuinfo should write > k7, k6, 586tsc or someing else to st

Re: automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-27 Thread Tomas Pospisek's Mailing Lists
You might want to talk to the debian-installer people. They either might have some ideas about it or will certainly be interested... Grep the -devel list for debian-installer and Tollef Fog Heen. *t -- --- Tomas Pospisek So

Re: Discussion - non-free software removal

2002-11-27 Thread sean finney
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:21:41PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: > I think, supporting (distributing) of non-free ist waste of bandwidth > and money... and the same for contrib... i think the bandwidth taken and disk space taken up by non-free is exceptionally small compared to main. i haven't

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:00:20PM -0600, Steve Greenland wrote: > On 27-Nov-02, 11:04 (CST), Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > [use the BTS to notify maintainers about debconf translation updates] > > What he said. An e-mail to the BTS (perhaps maint-only) with the > attached po file

Re: Discussion - non-free software removal

2002-11-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Am 02:12 2002-11-25 -0800 hat Adam McKenna geschrieben: >On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 09:34:44AM -0500, Branden Robinson wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 20, 2002 at 02:09:59PM +0200, Michelle Konzack wrote: >> > But I do not use contrib or non-free. Nobody had ask for non-free >> > and contrib if I burn CD's for

Re: Debian 3.0

2002-11-27 Thread Michelle Konzack
Hallo Herr Heisterkamp, dies ist eine englischsprachige Mailingliste... ;-) Am 15:44 2002-11-25 +0100 hat Jens Heisterkamp geschrieben: > >Guten Tag, > >Ich wolte einen Debian 3.0 ( woody ) aufsetzen mit einen 3ware Raid >Controller und wolte mal nachfragen ob es von Ihnen Treiber für Diskette >

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Jaldhar H. Vyas
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Marcin Owsiany wrote: > > He was the God of volcanic fire and of metal work. > > Maybe "lemnos"? This is where he used to work... > I thought the forge of Vulcan was Mt. Aetna in Sicily? The original "volcano". Hey there's another Debian connection: we are also known for pr

automatic selection which kernel image to install

2002-11-27 Thread Thomas Lange
Is there a script, that can automaticly determine the best or correct name of the kernel-image that should be installed? I think something with grep and sed from /proc/cpuinfo should write k7, k6, 586tsc or someing else to stdout. Has someone created this script already ? kernel-image-2.4.18-k7

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-27 Thread Mikael Olenfalk
Just for your statistics: I finally come back to beloved and wonderful Debian after having fought for a few weeks with a Gentoo-Desktop system. My conclusion was - or is - that even if Gentoo has newer packages sometimes and is using more modern techniques in some areas (the new dependancy-based r

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > I like maintaining the idea of forge, so my proposal is VULCAN > (from Roman mithology). i prefer greek: hephaistos then there is the Celtic mythos: brigid Irish (Bride in Scotland), great triple goddess. Fire goddess and crafts-smith. Christians turned he

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Marcin Owsiany
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:24:10AM +0100, Francesco Paolo Lovergine wrote: > I like maintaining the idea of forge, so my proposal is VULCAN > (from Roman mithology). > He was the God of volcanic fire and of metal work. Maybe "lemnos"? This is where he used to work... Marcin -- Marcin Owsiany <[E

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Steve Greenland
On 27-Nov-02, 11:04 (CST), Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > [use the BTS to notify maintainers about debconf translation updates] What he said. An e-mail to the BTS (perhaps maint-only) with the attached po file would be exactly what I'd want. (The BTS suport MIME attachements now, rig

Re: testing not getting updated?

2002-11-27 Thread Anthony Towns
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:27:00AM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:16:13AM +0530, Ganesan R wrote: > > Has any one else noticed that testing is not getting updated. According to > > http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html.gz, the last run > > was on Nov 20th.

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Richard Braakman
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:50:10AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > Heh. There's another: > > miscfiles: /usr/share/misc/unicode.gz > > The current version is Unicode 3.1.1. According to http://www.unicode.org/Public/UNIDATA/UnicodeData.html there's a version 3.2. Hmm, is this file Free?

Re: new build system

2002-11-27 Thread Mateusz Papiernik
> But unlike dpkg-source v2, you can start using CBS right now. Sound > interesting? Here's the URL where you can download CBS: > http://cvs.verbum.org/debian/rules Yes, it sounds interesting, but I had a problems with CBS and two packages (mainly GNU Gadu 2 from cvs and Kadu from kadu.net). It'

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:46:01AM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > I suppose I had something like that misconception. Where can I read > about the actaul construction of d-i? http://cvs.debian.org/debian-installer/doc/ -- - mdz

Planned mass-filing of bugs: java packages only depending on java-common

2002-11-27 Thread Stephen Zander
There are a significant number of lib*-java packages whose only dependency is on java-common. While the java policy has condoned this behaviour in the past, it is non-sensical to do in the same way it is non-sensical of C libraries not to depend on libc. This is due to the use of standard java.*

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:54:56AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 09:19, martin f krafft wrote: > > where can i find gpg-agent? is it packaged for debian? if not, then > > i'll file an ITP unless someone has valid things to say against that. > > Have you looked at quintuple-ag

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2002.11.27.1754 +0100]: > > where can i find gpg-agent? is it packaged for debian? if not, then > > i'll file an ITP unless someone has valid things to say against that. > > Have you looked at quintuple-agent? it's a horrible security threat. i am no

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread Colin Walters
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 09:19, martin f krafft wrote: > where can i find gpg-agent? is it packaged for debian? if not, then > i'll file an ITP unless someone has valid things to say against that. Have you looked at quintuple-agent?

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 01:10:33PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Simon Richter wrote: > > I believe that translations change so often that the "real" bugs would > > get lost in a pile of auto-generated bug reports. IMO it would be nice > Rate-limit them to one pe

Re: location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Radovan Garabik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > I am developping a (simple) application that needs to have > UnicodeData.txt file available. Of course there are more applications > that need this file. So far I found these two: > perl-modules: /usr/share/perl/5.8.0/unicore/UnicodeData.txt > console

Re: Discussion - non-free software removal

2002-11-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Branden Robinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 01:20:06PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell, BSG wrote: > > Indeed, one of the faculty here at UCI, Aldo Antonelli is a die-hard > > member of the Free Software community. When I told him about Debian's > > commitment to the principles

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-27 Thread Thomas Bushnell, BSG
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * "Joel Baker" > > | I might argue, in the case of APIs, that it is more a case of "If you don't > | have time to do it right, how will you ever have time to do it over" - it > | becomes *very* hard to un-entrench bad API choices, a lot of the time.

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-27 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 04:26:16PM -0700, Joel Baker wrote: > I must admit to some confusion, here. Should I take this as implying that > there is no particular intent to try to make Debian-Installer play nicely > on anything but Linux kernels? Intent on whose part? You would need to ask those i

Re: testing not getting updated?

2002-11-27 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 09:16:13AM +0530, Ganesan R wrote: > > Hi, > > Has any one else noticed that testing is not getting updated. According to > http://ftp-master.debian.org/testing/update_excuses.html.gz, the last run > was on Nov 20th. If this is intentional, I don't remember seeing any mail

Bug#170945: ITP: therion -- Cave survey drawing software

2002-11-27 Thread Wookey
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2002-11-27 Severity: wishlist Package name: therion Version : x.y.z Upstream Author : Name <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://www.therion.sk/ License : GPL Description : Cave survey drawing software Therion is a

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Peter Palfrader
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Michael Furr wrote: > On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 05:03, Roland Mas wrote: > > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or > > Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge. > > Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Michael Furr
On Wed, 2002-11-27 at 05:03, Roland Mas wrote: > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or > Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge. > Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any idea to > improve that line is welcome. Maybe

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002, Simon Richter wrote: > I believe that translations change so often that the "real" bugs would > get lost in a pile of auto-generated bug reports. IMO it would be nice Rate-limit them to one per (week, month, maintainer-defined). And make them simple notifications that there a

location of UnicodeData.txt

2002-11-27 Thread Radovan Garabik
I am developping a (simple) application that needs to have UnicodeData.txt file available. Of course there are more applications that need this file. So far I found these two: perl-modules: /usr/share/perl/5.8.0/unicore/UnicodeData.txt console-data: /usr/share/unidata/UnicodeData-2.1.8.txt (way o

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread alex
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 03:19:37PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > where can i find gpg-agent? is it packaged for debian? if not, then > i'll file an ITP unless someone has valid things to say against that. there are packages by Marcus Brinkmann on ftp.gnupg.org, and I'm working on adapting those

Re: gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread Mikhail Sobolev
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 03:19:37PM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: > where can i find gpg-agent? is it packaged for debian? if not, then > i'll file an ITP unless someone has valid things to say against that. I believe, the only one is available in newpg package (not Debian), which, I think, is the n

gpg-agent?

2002-11-27 Thread martin f krafft
where can i find gpg-agent? is it packaged for debian? if not, then i'll file an ITP unless someone has valid things to say against that. -- .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' :proud Debian developer, admin, and user `. `'` `- Debian - when you have better things to do t

Re: [desktop] foomatic-gui is born

2002-11-27 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 02:21:47AM -0600, Chris Lawrence wrote: > On Nov 27, Colin Walters wrote: > > > Maybe, although GNOME System Tools is perl-based, so I'm not entirely > > > sure it's a good idea from a dependency standpoint. > > > > True enough. I just wonder if there's a way you could som

Re: [desktop] foomatic-gui is born

2002-11-27 Thread Jose Carlos Garcia Sogo
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 12:59:13AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Tue, 2002-11-26 at 22:36, Chris Lawrence wrote: > > > The module should be: > > /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/gtk-2.0/bonobo/activationmodule.so > > > > It seems to be in the python2.2-gnome2 package, at least on my system. >

Bug#170932: ITP: libpqxx -- C++ library for connecting to a PostgreSQL database

2002-11-27 Thread Oliver Elphick
Package: wnpp Version: unavailable; reported 2002-11-27 Severity: wishlist * Package name: libpqxx Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : Jeroen T. Vermeulen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://gborg.postgresql.org/ * License : BSD Description : C++ library for

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-27 Thread Theodore Reed
On Tue, 26 Nov 2002 13:59:48 -0500 "H. S. Teoh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 01:41:21PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > [snip] > > No, it doesn't. It shows that the most frequently viewed > > distribution pages on distrowatch.com are: > > > > 1) Mandrake > > 2) Red Hat > >

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Simon Richter
Javier/Michael, On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 02:04:28PM +0100, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > some other with this opinion? > I believe most Debian Developers share this opinion. The BTS is > the place to keep track of package issues, I, personally, don't like to go > to other places

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Michael Bramer | The ddtp will produce also po-debconf files in future. I must only write | some scripts for it... Would you please also nice your scripts on gluck? They are eating loads and loads of CPU time. Also rewriting them to keep state would be a good thing. (Or running them on your

Re: debconf template translations from ddtp

2002-11-27 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 08:01:13AM +0100, Michael Bramer wrote: > > > > I would like to recive the translation as bugs, so i hope you'll set it up > > in > > this way sooner or later. > > some other with this opinion? > I believe most Debian Developers share this opinion. The BTS is the

Re: Are we losing users to Gentoo?

2002-11-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* "Joel Baker" | I might argue, in the case of APIs, that it is more a case of "If you don't | have time to do it right, how will you ever have time to do it over" - it | becomes *very* hard to un-entrench bad API choices, a lot of the time. people seem to have the misconception that d-i is one

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 07:07:45AM -0500, H. S. Teoh wrote: > On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: > > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or > > Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge. > > Unfortunately, plenty of p

Re: [desktop] foomatic-gui is born

2002-11-27 Thread Gustavo Noronha Silva
Em Wed, 27 Nov 2002 02:21:47 -0600, Chris Lawrence <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: > Yes, some sort of "su to root" prompt is probably a good idea; dunno > if I can reuse the existing code or what. If not, something similar > probably won't be hard to whip together (although I guess we probably > h

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: [snip] > - Another idea I had was something along the lines of Debsmith or > Iansmith, to keep both the idea of Debian and the idea of the forge. > Unfortunately, plenty of people are called that way. Any idea to > improve that line

Re: DAM approval wait time?

2002-11-27 Thread Andrew Lau
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 08:01:26AM -0800, Jim Lynch wrote: > But what are you actually going to -do-? If I recall correctly, > you've said on IRC that you aren't or don't want to be a coder > (correct me if I'm wrong), and a previous attempt on your part to > become a developer left NM with the que

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:55:56AM +0100, Roberto Suarez Soto wrote: > On Nov/27, Emile van Bergen wrote: > > > What about Avalon? Both a composer (well, hmm) and the place where > > Excalibur was forged. > > Being about forging, "Orodruin" comes also to mind ;-) Yes, although there'

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Roberto Suarez Soto
On Nov/27, Emile van Bergen wrote: > What about Avalon? Both a composer (well, hmm) and the place where > Excalibur was forged. Being about forging, "Orodruin" comes also to mind ;-) -- Roberto Suarez Soto Alfa21 Outsourcing [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Emile van Bergen
Hi, On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: > Hi all, > > As some of you probably know, some people are in the process of > installing a Sourceforge site on a Debian machine. It will consist of > a slightly patched version of the 2.6 branch of the Debian package > "sourc

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Luca - De Whiskey's - De Vitis
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 11:03:58AM +0100, Roland Mas wrote: > Current candidates include: > - Actarus: Actarus is the pilot of Goldorak/Grendizer/what's it called > in your language. No particular reason except that it was a very > famous cartoon here in France some ten-fifteen years ago. Alc

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
I like maintaining the idea of forge, so my proposal is VULCAN (from Roman mithology). He was the God of volcanic fire and of metal work. He was the son of Hera (and maybe Zeus).(Some say that Hera gave birth to Hephaestus alone because she was angry with Zeus, because Athena was born out of Zeus'

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Glenn McGrath
On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 11:03:58 +0100 Roland Mas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > - Your idea here. > Trinity, re the Matrix Glenn

Re: PostgreSQL 7.3 about to be released

2002-11-27 Thread Ola Lundqvist
On Wed, Nov 27, 2002 at 04:15:10AM +, Stephen Birch wrote: > Sorry - I guess this is probably a newbie question. > > This posting says the new PostgreSQL pre-release was uploaded to > "experimental". Is that the same as uploading to "unstable" or is there > another area beyond stable, testin

Re: Pick a name, any name...

2002-11-27 Thread Arjen Wiersma
Roland, Roland> - Your idea here. What about 'meiinoar' which means 'together' in frisian (a language, some argue a dialect ;), in the Netherlands)... Regards, Arjen

Re: Multiple conflicts between firewall configuring packages (policy change? mass bug filing?)

2002-11-27 Thread Jamie Wilkinson
This one time, at band camp, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: >He can either: >1.- get the rules of the latest firewall script that runs from init (if it >flushes the previous rules) >2.- get a mixed setup of rules. > >¿Shouldn't there be a way for these firewalls to cooperate so as to not >ge

Re: orbit/evolution/linux2.5 bug #168188

2002-11-27 Thread Francesco Paolo Lovergine
On Tue, Nov 26, 2002 at 07:29:36PM -0500, Stephen Gran wrote: > > > > Jeff > When I do this sort of thing on my local mirror, I usually pretend it's > an NMU - so your package would be 0.5.17-4.1 or something. This > prevents apt from preferring the Debian distributed pakage over yours. > Either

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