Re: Bug#195481: fragmented location info: hassle for users especially mobile ones

2003-05-31 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Sat, 31 May 2003 02:16:50 +0100, Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:56:13PM -0700, David Nusinow wrote: >> A few people were discussing the need for sharing of debconf >> templates on #debian-devel on freenode the other day/night. The >> example that came up at

Re: PAM messages on chrooted console

2003-05-31 Thread Bas Zoetekouw
Hi Ming! You wrote: > After restarting init my tty6 works, however I keep getting PAM messages > on my console such as: > PAM_unix[19031]: (login) session opened for user minghua by minghua(uid=0) > I noticed such messages go to /var/log/auth.log in my stardard > installation, however this log in

Re: PAM messages on chrooted console

2003-05-31 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 08:33:54AM +0200, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > You are probably nor running syslogd and/or klodg in the chroot. I'm > not sure is that's possible, though. Yes, you have 2 options, use the outside syslog (by using udp or additional named pipe) or start a second syslog in the inne

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-31 Thread Denis Barbier
On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 12:42:23PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Wed, May 28, 2003 at 07:20:11PM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: > > Is the Debian menu system going to convert to using the freedesktop > > menu spec? > > > > http://www.freedesktop.org/standards/menu/draft/menu-spec/menu-spec.html >

Re: PAM messages on chrooted console

2003-05-31 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 31 May 2003 16:33, Bas Zoetekouw wrote: > You are probably nor running syslogd and/or klodg in the chroot. I'm > not sure is that's possible, though. klogd in the chroot makes no sense. syslogd in the chroot is doable. You have to configure things such that no more than one syslogd lis

Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-05-31 Thread Karl M. Hegbloom
Happy un-halloween. The truth is out there -- apt-get into it, local shadow repositories potentially excepted. There _are_ organized groups of individuals who are actively attempting to dismantle or disrupt LUG's, and to discourage Linux advocates. They may attempt to discourage LUG's from forma

Re: PAM messages on chrooted console

2003-05-31 Thread Andreas Metzler
Bas Zoetekouw <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > You wrote: >> After restarting init my tty6 works, however I keep getting PAM messages >> on my console such as: >> PAM_unix[19031]: (login) session opened for user minghua by minghua(uid=0) >> I noticed such messages go to /var/log/auth.log in my stardard

Re: Bug#195481: fragmented location info: hassle for users especially mobile ones

2003-05-31 Thread Colin Watson
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 09:33:12PM -0700, David Nusinow wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 02:16:50AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > Uh, I'm not sure this is a good example. Hasn't shared/news/server > > existed for years? Both the newsreaders I maintain use it and have done > > so since at least May

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-31 Thread Morten Brix Pedersen
Hi Colin, * Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-30 20:00:30]: > > 1) The sections that are normally used within the Category field in a > > .desktop > > file isn't the same as with menu. Here I have decided to make menu > > automatically convert a category into menus system. E.g. Category:

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-31 Thread Morten Brix Pedersen
Hi Chris, * Chris Cheney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2003-05-30 21:06:10]: > > 2) The current menu files use a "needs" field to designate whether the > > application uses console or X11 (e.g. needs="text"). In our .desktop > > files, this field will be named X-Menu-Needs and will only be required > > for

Re: PAM messages on chrooted console

2003-05-31 Thread Arthur de Jong
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 > After restarting init my tty6 works, however I keep getting PAM messages > on my console such as: > PAM_unix[19031]: (login) session opened for user minghua by minghua(uid=0) > I noticed such messages go to /var/log/auth.log in my stardard > install

Re: PAM messages on chrooted console

2003-05-31 Thread Russell Coker
On Sat, 31 May 2003 17:54, Andreas Metzler wrote: > The simplest solution is to use SYSLOGD="-a /path/to/chroot/dev/log" > in /etc/init.d/sysklogd to get the main syslogd to grab the messages > from the chroot, too. You can get the same result on a 2.4.x kernel with the --bind mount option which

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 30, Lars Wirzenius <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >I'm quite happy to believe that, but would you like to list some of the >capabilities it has that gnome-terminal doesn't so at to let the rest of >us understand as well? It allows to hide the tabs. This is a requirement for me, as I cannot a

Re: Anti Open Source Psyops / "Mind Tweakers"? (they'll never believe we're really aliens dept)

2003-05-31 Thread William Lee Irwin III
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 01:23:29AM -0700, Karl M. Hegbloom wrote: > Think about it. You might be next! They will try to make you believe > that what is said in this message cannot be reality. You may think this > is a joke eMail, but it is not. It resembles reality in some regard -- > you must

Re: appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-31 Thread Mark Brown
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 03:29:43PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > But they do support the same functionality, just on different formats of > data file. There are plenty of cases where a user needs to be aware of If the input formats are different then the alternative is pretty useless: you can't

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Balazs GAL
2003-05-30, p keltezéssel Anthony DeRobertis ezt írta: > (from /etc/hosts) > 127.0.0.1 bohr.local bohr localhost > 192.168.65.5bohr.local bohr This is a broken setup, and it will break many apps. Use it only, if you really _should_ use it as a workaround. The right one: 127.0.0.1

new bug tags

2003-05-31 Thread Colin Watson
Hi, The BTS now has "lfs" (large file support) and "ipv6" tags. http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 will search for matching bugs. Cheers, -- Colin Watson [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-31 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 02:00:41PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > The binary is going to have to be renamed - even if you use an > alternative there'll still be a renamed binary there. yes, but the user would only need to know in the even that they had both alternatives installed, which I don't see

Re: appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-31 Thread Pierre THIERRY
> He doesn't think that it's an appropriate use of alternatives, since > the tools are not compatible. What about having a the ability to parse the original xplot data in your xplot ? Simply, le Moine Fou -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP 0xD9D50D8A pgpOCAxGBQub9.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: does debian also support 64-bit x86 systems > HP i2000 itanium

2003-05-31 Thread Bob Proulx
PPMW wrote: > dear sirs, > > does VMware also support 64-bit x86 systems > HP i2000 itanium > > ... what do we need? > paul! Your message is very confusing to me. It askes two different questions at two different times. 1. Your question in the subject line, "does debian a

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Bob Proulx
Balazs GAL wrote: > Anthony DeRobertis wrote: > > > (from /etc/hosts) > > 127.0.0.1 bohr.local bohr localhost > > 192.168.65.5bohr.local bohr > > This is a broken setup, and it will break many apps. > Use it only, if you really _should_ use it as a workaround. Why do you say it is brok

Re: appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-31 Thread Bob Proulx
Noah Meyerhans wrote: > I guess xplot-xplotorg will just end up conflicting with xplot. It > sucks, since that means the new package winds up in the ghetto (priority > extra) but it's preferable to the options available. Not commenting on the conflict with xplot. Although I sympathize, I think t

Re: appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-31 Thread Richard Braakman
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 12:08:20PM -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 02:00:41PM +0100, Mark Brown wrote: > > The binary is going to have to be renamed - even if you use an > > alternative there'll still be a renamed binary there. > > yes, but the user would only need to know

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-31 Thread Christian T. Steigies
On Sun, May 25, 2003 at 08:12:00AM +1000, Herbert Xu wrote: > Christoph Hellwig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Why can't Debian have just one tree for multiple architectures like > > SuSE and RedHat (sometimes) do. Okay suse supports 'only' i386, > > x86_64,ppc,ppc64,s390,s390x,ia64 but their

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 10:55:13AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > On a laptop with a sometimes disconnected PCMCIA network card you > might find this very inconvenient. The first configuration above will > always use the loopback address and will always be able to talk to > itself even if the network

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Allan Wind
On 2003-05-31 10:55:13, Bob Proulx wrote: > Why do you say it is broken? What apps will it break? Applications using omniorb, for instance, breaks with this config per ther mailing list. /Allan -- Allan Wind P.O. Box 2022 Woburn, MA 01888-0022 USA pgpsIhr4xgLeH.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: appropriate use of /etc/alternatives

2003-05-31 Thread Michał Politowski
On Sat, 31 May 2003 12:08:20 -0400, Noah Meyerhans wrote: [...] > I guess xplot-xplotorg will just end up conflicting with xplot. It > sucks, since that means the new package winds up in the ghetto (priority > extra) but it's preferable to the options available. I'd really appreciate if somebody

retitle 180188 ITA: defoma

2003-05-31 Thread Debian Font Manager
retitle 180188 ITA: defoma -- Debian Font Manager thanks

Bug#195593: ITP: nast -- packet sniffer and a lan analyzer based on libnet and libpcap

2003-05-31 Thread Norbert Tretkowski
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-05-31 Severity: wishlist * Package name : nast Version : 0.1.7e Upstream Authors : Embyte <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Snifth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://nast.berlios.de/ * License : GPL Description : packet sni

Re: Second experimental version of APT with DDTP Support

2003-05-31 Thread Fabio Massimo Di Nitto
Hi Otavio, On Sat, 31 May 2003, Otavio Salvador wrote: > The DDTP team and the Debian-BR project are proud to announce the > second public release of APT featuring support for translated package > descriptions. just for pure curiosity, when do you expect to have the full system integrated withi

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-31 Thread Christian Surchi
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 09:01:37PM +0300, Baruch Even wrote: > MGT is much more capable than gnome-terminal, I prefer the power of MGT > over gnome-terminal, and if no-one else will step in, I'd be willing to > maintain MGT myself. I think I can't find enough time... and I'd like to see it maintai

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-31 Thread Bill Allombert
On Fri, May 30, 2003 at 05:24:02PM -0400, Colin Walters wrote: > Bill, some Debian developers have raised a number of concerns about the > continuing development of the Debian menu system. These concerns are > currently being discussed on the debian-devel mailing list, and we would > greatly appre

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-31 Thread Bill Allombert
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 08:54:51AM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote: > On Thu, May 29, 2003 at 12:42:23PM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote: > > > > What more do you want the Debian menu system to do ? > > Provide an example? I would like to see how you generate a fully > localized .desktop file containing

Re: Maintaining kernel source in sarge

2003-05-31 Thread Herbert Xu
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 12:14:31PM -0500, Christian T. Steigies wrote: > > I think this is contracticting to what you said just a few messages earlier. > For 2.4.21 will there be a pristine kernel-source and seperate i386-patch or > not? It seems I am the m68k maintainer, and I am for the seperate

Re: new bug tags

2003-05-31 Thread Guido Guenther
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:23:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > The BTS now has "lfs" (large file support) and "ipv6" tags. > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 will > search for matching bugs. Since we're using bug tags for such specific things now wouldn't it make

Re: Debian menu system update

2003-05-31 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, 2003-05-31 at 17:52, Bill Allombert wrote: > > http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2003/debian-devel-200305/msg02071.html > > Could you be so kind as to summarize thoses concerns ? The message above is fairly concise, I think. But I can basically sum it up as: I don't see the advanta

Re: new bug tags

2003-05-31 Thread Rene Engelhard
Hi, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:23:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > The BTS now has "lfs" (large file support) and "ipv6" tags. > > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 will > > search for matching bugs. > Since we're using bug tags for such

Changelog issues with (among others) tkdiff 1:3.08-4

2003-05-31 Thread Brian Nelson
Adrian Bridgett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Changes: > tkdiff (1:3.08-4) unstable; urgency=low > . >* lintian fixes Issues that lintian reports are, in most cases, bugs. Bugs that you have fixed should be explicitly described in the changelog. After all, lintian reports many different

Re: Bug#195426: O: multi-gnome-terminal -- Enhanced the GNOME Terminal

2003-05-31 Thread Marco d'Itri
On May 30, Sebastian Rittau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Is there anything that multi-gnome-terminal can do that the current >(GNOME 2) gnome-terminal cannot? Is there any point in keeping this Yes, gnome-terminal forces me to have a useless (I always use the keyboard to switch tab) tabs bar. --

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Herbert Xu
Bob Proulx <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > But this second configuration requires the network and will fail in > the case that you have taken it offline. On laptops that is not a > desireable situation. Even in the desktop environment there are cases You can solve that by adding the external add

Re: /etc/hostname

2003-05-31 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 07:44:20PM +0200, Bernd Eckenfels wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 10:55:13AM -0600, Bob Proulx wrote: > > On a laptop with a sometimes disconnected PCMCIA network card you > > might find this very inconvenient. The first configuration above will > > always use the loopback

Re: new bug tags

2003-05-31 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Jun 01, 2003 at 12:52:02AM +0200, Guido Guenther wrote: > On Sat, May 31, 2003 at 04:23:49PM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > The BTS now has "lfs" (large file support) and "ipv6" tags. > > http://bugs.debian.org/tag:lfs and http://bugs.debian.org/tag:ipv6 will > > search for matching bugs. >