Re: testing packages at build

2003-10-15 Thread Branden Robinson
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 02:59:45PM -0700, Zack Weinberg wrote: > I do not know enough about what X resource files are supposed to look > like to identify this bug for sure. However, I notice that the > /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources file from Daniel's experimental X4.3.0 debs > appears to have had all it

Re: XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Matt Bonner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Amazing. dselect managed to mention 4 relationships, but not that one. > "There has to be a beter way..." Erm, actually, I just took another look at your original mail and saw the provides line at the bottom. Still, I would suggest giving aptitude a try

Re: XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Matt Bonner
"Aaron M. Ucko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Matt Bonner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Thanks! I was wondering if it wouldn't have been clearer to say > > that XMMS 1.2.8 Provides alsa-xmms instead of saying alsa-xmms > > Conflicts with xmms. Any thoughts? > > xmms both provides and conflic

Re: XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
Matt Bonner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Thanks! I was wondering if it wouldn't have been clearer to say > that XMMS 1.2.8 Provides alsa-xmms instead of saying alsa-xmms > Conflicts with xmms. Any thoughts? xmms both provides and conflicts (with) alsa-xmms; dselect just only chooses to mention

Bug#216031: ITP: rng-tools -- Daemon to use the hardware RNG on x86 motherboards

2003-10-15 Thread Andrew Schulman
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: rng-tools Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Jeff Garzik <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/gkernel/ * License : GPL Description : Daemon to use a hardware RNG This package provides rn

Re: XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Matt Bonner
--- "Aaron M. Ucko" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > As the erstwhile alsa-xmms maintainer, I can officially confirm > Cameron's explanation: the latest upstream XMMS version (1.2.8) > incorporates the ALSA plugin itself, so there's no longer any need for > a separate package and you should go ahead an

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-15 Thread Kris Deugau
Julian Mehnle wrote: > Andreas Metzler wrote: > > Julian Mehnle <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > It's about forging an e-mail sender's identity. By preventing > > > the unauthorized use of domains as the sender domain of e-mails, > > > most of the practiced cases of identity forgery are prevented.

Re: testing packages at build

2003-10-15 Thread Zack Weinberg
Branden Robinson wrote: > No, it's a problem for programs that use cpp to parse X resource files. > > In particular, I noticed that xdm broke due to a mangled > /etc/X11/xdm/Xresources file when built with cpp 3.3 instead of cpp 3.2. I do not know enough about what X resource files are supposed t

Re: Bug#215556: ITP: gsysutils -- Set of utilities useful to system administrators

2003-10-15 Thread Andreas Rottmann
Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 01:45:07PM +, Robert Millan wrote: >> GNU Sysutils is intended to compliment coreutils. These utilities >> are ones that are either primarily useful to system administrators, >> or would need to be installed by a system admi

Re: XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Aaron M. Ucko
As the erstwhile alsa-xmms maintainer, I can officially confirm Cameron's explanation: the latest upstream XMMS version (1.2.8) incorporates the ALSA plugin itself, so there's no longer any need for a separate package and you should go ahead and remove the obsolete alsa-xmms package in favor of the

Re: [debian-devel] Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Magosányi Árpád
2003-10-15, sze keltezéssel Matthew Palmer ezt írta: > It's not as though anyone is going to beat you up because of a Lintian > warning. Are we having "my package is cleaner than yours" contests? (Maybe > we should, considering some of the crud I've seen in NMUs I've built). I have always thoug

Re: faster boot

2003-10-15 Thread Gerrit Pape
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 11:12:26AM +0200, Erich Schubert wrote: > runit is okay, and it has debian packages already. What i didn't like > about runit is the "forest" of processes it creates. The output of > pstree is really fancy. ;-) Minit seems to be able to do most of this > without using that m

Re: chroot on debian hosts?

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 10:29:27AM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 09:37:51AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:20:15PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > > > I'd like to build against sid on a machine (ia64) I don't own but > > > which Debian does have availabl

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-15 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 07:48:33PM +0200, W. Borgert wrote: > Hi, > > a few days ago, I uploaded an emacs mode package (all) source only > w/o problems to ftp-master. Today, a source only upload was rejected. > Why? I think, we should get rid of binary uploads... > > Cheers! Please search the

Source only uploads?

2003-10-15 Thread W. Borgert
Hi, a few days ago, I uploaded an emacs mode package (all) source only w/o problems to ftp-master. Today, a source only upload was rejected. Why? I think, we should get rid of binary uploads... Cheers!

Re: chroot on debian hosts?

2003-10-15 Thread Marc Singer
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 09:37:51AM +0100, Colin Watson wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:20:15PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > > (I thought I sent this, but now I cannot find it to be sure.) > > > > I'd like to build against sid on a machine (ia64) I don't own but > > which Debian does have availa

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
Andreas Tille <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > know the latest policy version. IMHO it is a lintian bug to hardcode the > policy version to check against instead at least verifying an installed > policy version. IBTD. It is feature, you get nice warning that some of lintian's warnings might be

Re: The sense of automake (Was: Processed: better make that 1.7.8... :-()

2003-10-15 Thread Bob Proulx
Sam Hocevar wrote: > ... or fix the timestamps of the various auto* files before calling > configure. Use something like this: (order is important) > > touch configure.ac \ (or configure.in) > && touch aclocal.m4 \ > && touch configure \ > && touch config.h.in \

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Re: faster boot

2003-10-15 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Erich Schubert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [031015 11:31]: > - disabling of services in a consistent way (some are disabled via > /etc/defaults/package, some expect you to edit the init.d script, > some suggest removing the links) I think removing the link is the way to go. > - hooks for other init

Bug#215945: ITP: etw -- arcade-style soccer game

2003-10-15 Thread Sam Hocevar
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: etw Version : CVS Upstream Author : Gabriele Greco <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://etw.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : arcade-style soccer game Eat The Whistle is an arcade soccer game si

Re: Forgive me

2003-10-15 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Mike Dresser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Christoph Haas wrote: > > > Perhaps I'd better send all my passwords and serial numbers here. In > > case my hard disk crashes I can always recover it from the mailing list > > archives. SCNR. > > Isn't this basically how Linus does/

Re: debian-postgresql list closed and postgresql problem

2003-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Oliver Elphick wrote: > There is now (as of 2 days ago) an Alioth project for the Debian > packaging, and it has a mailing list: > http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-postgresql-public Thanks - I'm going to subscribe this soon ... > That shouldn't make any dif

Re: Forgive me

2003-10-15 Thread Mike Dresser
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Christoph Haas wrote: > Perhaps I'd better send all my passwords and serial numbers here. In > case my hard disk crashes I can always recover it from the mailing list > archives. SCNR. Isn't this basically how Linus does/says to do his backups? Or was that someone else? Mik

Re: debian-postgresql list closed and postgresql problem

2003-10-15 Thread Oliver Elphick
On Wed, 2003-10-15 at 14:42, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > > there was a debian-postgresql list but it seems to have died ... :-( There is now (as of 2 days ago) an Alioth project for the Debian packaging, and it has a mailing list: http://lists.alioth.debian.org/mailman/listinfo/pkg-postgresql-p

Re: Forgive me

2003-10-15 Thread Christoph Haas
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 03:53:06AM -0700, salah rahhal wrote: > Hi there I'm Salah and i tried many times to get the > serial number for my software demo from > the resource, but unfortunately the server rejected my > e.mail because they want (not free > e.mail) to contact me ,,so i searched the

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 03:23:24PM +0200, Sam Hocevar wrote: >Just for an example where it annoys me: I use lintian.d.o as a summary > of my lintian warnings because it gives me a nice overview of what needs > to be done, and I always need to manually filter out newer-standards- > version warn

debian-postgresql list closed and postgresql problem

2003-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, there was a debian-postgresql list but it seems to have died ... :-( >From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wed Oct 15 15:39:10 2003 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 14:40:05 +0200 (CEST) From: Mail Delivery System <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Undelivered Mail Returned to Sender This is the Pos

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > People in general seem to get unnecessarily het up about Lintian > warnings. They're intended as advice to be read and understood by > humans, not as things you should be blindly counting. Just for an example where it annoys me: I use lintian.d.o as

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Peter S Galbraith
Joel Baker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:31:01PM -0700, Blars Blarson wrote: > > In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> you write: > > >Try reading upgrading-checklist.txt. > > > > Where do I get a copy of this document? A summery of what to check > > for when updating a packa

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 10:21:07PM +1000, Matthew Palmer wrote: > On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:04:41PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > [lintian warnings about newer-standards-version] > > It is not fair to issue warnings against a package if the warning > > should be intended to the checker itself. >

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:04:41PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: [lintian warnings about newer-standards-version] > It is not fair to issue warnings against a package if the warning should be > intended to the checker itself. It's not as though anyone is going to beat you up because of a Lintian war

Re: A cool tool called lintian

2003-10-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 01:39:44PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: >... > There are more serious lintian errors like missing-depends-line (nine > packages - nine RC bugs). If the maintainer would have used lintian > these bugs would have never existed. >... A small correction: While preparing the bug

A cool tool called lintian

2003-10-15 Thread Adrian Bunk
As an ex-Debian-developer I'd like to introduce a tool only few Debian maintainers seem to know about: lintian It's e.g. described in Chapter 7 of the "Debian New Maintainers' Guide" [1] and there's a server that runs daily lintian over all (i386) packages [2]. lintian does not catch all err

Re: Bug#215827: ITP: lartc -- Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO

2003-10-15 Thread Andreas Metzler
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 02:05:40AM +0200, Pedro Larroy wrote: > Package: wnpp > Version: unavailable; reported 2003-10-15 > Severity: wishlist > > > * Package name: lartc > Version : 1.41-1 > Upstream Author : Thomas Graf <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > * URL : http://www.lartc.

Re: faster boot

2003-10-15 Thread Jesus Climent
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:28:09AM +0200, Gerrit Pape wrote: [...] > > Regards, Gerrit. init minit runit Gerrit! Sounds like a name conflict ;) -- Jesus Climent | Unix SysAdm | Helsinki, Finland | pumuki.hispalinux.es GPG: 1024D/86946D69 BB64 2339 1CAA 7064 E429 7E18 66FC 1D7F 8694 6D69 -

Forgive me

2003-10-15 Thread salah rahhal
Hi there I'm Salah and i tried many times to get the serial number for my software demo from the resource, but unfortunately the server rejected my e.mail because they want (not free e.mail) to contact me ,,so i searched the web for any real e.mail to feed back the installation site, and by chan

Wildform Wild fx - Demo Version.

2003-10-15 Thread support
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Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Colin Watson wrote: > Not really; the people complaining about newer-standards-version serve > to remind the lintian maintainer that he needs to update lintian for any > changes in policy. :) Updating lintian is not just a matter of > increasing the number. Well for sure. But

Re: The sense of automake (Was: Processed: better make that 1.7.8... :-()

2003-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003, Sam Hocevar wrote: >See also /usr/share/doc/autotools-dev/README.Debian.gz Thanks for the hint, which hopefully prevents me from any future automake caused frequent wordnet uploads. Kind regards Andreas.

Re: The sense of automake (Was: Processed: better make that 1.7.8... :-()

2003-10-15 Thread Mark Brown
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 11:27:54AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > I would love to do so but it happened to me that the files I created seem > to depend from automake. I do not call any automake script - just > the usual >configure; make; make install > but I had to add a build-dependency f

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 11:32:20AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Josip Rodin wrote: > > > You assign way too much value to the latest two revisions. Try reading > > upgrading-checklist.txt. In general, relying on automated tools to check > > packages, rather than inspecting th

Re: The sense of automake (Was: Processed: better make that 1.7.8... :-()

2003-10-15 Thread Sam Hocevar
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003, Andreas Tille wrote: > I would love to do so but it happened to me that the files I created seem > to depend from automake. I do not call any automake script - just > the usual >configure; make; make install > but I had to add a build-dependency from automake accordin

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Oct 15, 2003 at 11:32:20AM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Josip Rodin wrote: > > You assign way too much value to the latest two revisions. Try reading > > upgrading-checklist.txt. In general, relying on automated tools to check > > packages, rather than inspecting them

Re: [debian-devel] Re: which policy checker?

2003-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Josip Rodin wrote: > You assign way too much value to the latest two revisions. Try reading > upgrading-checklist.txt. In general, relying on automated tools to check > packages, rather than inspecting them manually based on actual (*gasp*!) > knowledge of policy, isn't partic

Re: The sense of automake (Was: Processed: better make that 1.7.8... :-()

2003-10-15 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, 14 Oct 2003, Santiago Vila wrote: > In general, Debian source packages should not need to build-depend on > automake. In theory, the author should already care to create an > original tarball with all the required things already created > (in fact, it is part of GNU standards that packages

Re: faster boot

2003-10-15 Thread Erich Schubert
Hi, i have working minit packages (not sure if i uploaded them to ppl.d.o/~erich/boot/ yet) and i've been using them for weeks to init my system. There are a couple of open issues, that is why i didn't upload them. for example current init-scripts are not aware of the monitoring capabilities; when

Re: chroot on debian hosts?

2003-10-15 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 06:20:15PM -0700, Marc Singer wrote: > (I thought I sent this, but now I cannot find it to be sure.) > > I'd like to build against sid on a machine (ia64) I don't own but > which Debian does have available. > > I tried the recipe from the developer's manual using fakeroot.

Re: recent spam to this list

2003-10-15 Thread Nick Phillips
On Mon, Oct 13, 2003 at 05:54:41PM -0500, John Hasler wrote: > > No, you understood it correctly. That's exactly the point. > > If I can configure my domain with a list of IPs from which mail claiming to > originate from it must come without having a static IP and without the > cooperation of th

Re: Hardcoding of .la file paths in .la files

2003-10-15 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mar 14/10/2003 à 19:44, Daniel Kobras a écrit : > Still, this whole prelink issue is tangent to the main > point: There are valid reasons for static linking, and I oppose the > blanket statement that we should deprecate this method. And there are also good reasons to change our policy regarding

Re: XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Cameron Patrick
On Tue, Oct 14, 2003 at 10:15:31PM -0700, Matt Bonner wrote: | It seems that as a couple, xmms and alsa-xmms are likely to break up | soon. Can anyone help them? Or at least me? The latest xmms package has the alsa plugin included, so the alsa-xmms package is no longer needed. i.e. the couple

XMMS doesn't like itself much...

2003-10-15 Thread Matt Bonner
Hi, (Please CC me, I'm not on this list.) Today in dselect (I use testing) I got this bit of wisdom, please advise me how best to report this problem: *-* Opt soundxmms Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp **- Opt soundalsa-xmms --