Re: Bug#214036: im: imput doesn't work with Perl 5.8.1

2003-10-21 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
On October 21, 2003 at 2:10PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The general solution is not to use $! as an error indicator in perl. That > doesn't work reliably. I've modified the im pacakge not to use $! as an error indicator. I intend to include the following patch in the n

Re: Bug#215827: ITP: lartc -- Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO

2003-10-21 Thread Andreas Metzler
Pedro Larroy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: [...] > The howto won't be packaged and this ITP should be closed, because it's > already packaged. [...] Could you please do the honors and close it? Thanks. cu and- not commenting on the snipped part on purpose -reas

Re: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:15:29PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > > It is documented to be a Makefile. That _is_ the > > > interface definition. > > > > Actually, we don't know that. The original documentation did not explicitely > > say that all rules files absolutely need to be makefiles,

Re: Bug#215827: ITP: lartc -- Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO

2003-10-21 Thread Glenn Maynard
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 08:54:14PM +0200, Pedro Larroy wrote: > Next time, be more positive. Thanks. He's offering constructive criticism, pointing out that there could be better examples, and instead of saying "thanks!" and using it to improve the document, you attack him. He's not the one that

Bug#216954: RFP: wmfrog -- WindowMaker dock app that shows your current weather

2003-10-21 Thread Mathieu Roy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: wmfrog Version : 0.1.5 Upstream Author : tcolar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://www.colar.net/wmapps/ * License : GNU GPL Description : WindowMaker dock app that shows your current weather

Re: Driver Support for Intel Motherboard

2003-10-21 Thread Joan Tur
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Es Dilluns 20 Octubre 2003 20:27, en Srikanta Prasanna va escriure: > I recently installed Debian (Knoppix > 3.2) on my system (P4, 2Ghz, 845 GLAD Intel motherboard). I am not able to > find a driver for my motherboard (the audio is not detected) Try r

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 03:12:17PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > beyond any recognition - but the basic idea stands. I would prefer not > letting packages into testing which were not autobuilt. Another argument: trojaned binaries can more easyly happen on hundrets of machines with differen secuirty

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* John Hasler | Matt Zimmerman writes: | > This premise assumes that only developers use unstable, and in my | > experience this is very far from the truth. | | It is true that some packages go into testing without having been tested on | all platforms. Some packages probably go into stable wit

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Andrew Suffield dijo [Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 07:12:22PM +0100]: > Strictly as stated, your goal is accurate, but as implied, it is > not. You are implying that this applies only to binary packages. > > I say that failing to function when built in anything but a particular > artificial environment is

Re: Bug#88029: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Branden Robinson
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:35:04AM +0200, Josip Rodin wrote: > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 03:58:19PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: > > I've yet to see a technical argument for allowing debian/rules to be a > > non-makefile. > > I've yet to see a technical argument for disallowing debian/rules from be

Re: Bug#215827: ITP: lartc -- Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO

2003-10-21 Thread Pedro Larroy
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:57:03PM +0200, Marc Haber wrote: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:24:25 +0200, Andreas Metzler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Being a normal Linuxdoc howto this has been available in Debian for a > >long time in doc-linux-html. > > And calling this document a HOWTO has been a j

Re: Testing/help needed - experimental glibc version

2003-10-21 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 01:03:02PM -0400, Daniel Jacobowitz wrote: > As some of you may have seen, there's a new version of glibc in unstable. Joey has kindly pointed out that I'm out of my mind. "There's a new version of glibc in experimental." -- Daniel Jacobowitz MontaVista Software

Re: squid

2003-10-21 Thread Christoph Haas
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 11:45:15AM -0200, Faturamento wrote: > what the last squid proxy? > the squid on my firm, die every time. > have any site, specify for this? See http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages and search for squid. There is a mailing list called squid-users (see squid-cache.org).

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 07:46:27PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Andrew Suffield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:13:22PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > > b) The package is uploaded from real-world environments. Sometimes it > > > > breaks; when this ha

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 09:11:28AM +1000, Andrew Pollock wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 06:08:27PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > Sure, sure. > > > > Just give me one real world reason why it is not good to build in an > > artificial environment like you call it (either pbuilder or an > > autobui

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 06:55:50PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am So, den 19.10.2003 schrieb Andrew Suffield um 21:08: > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 05:57:55PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > The proposal was "All packages should be built in an artificial > > environment of this form". I have poin

Re: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Steve Greenland
On 21-Oct-03, 09:58 (CDT), Josip Rodin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:54:13PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > It is documented to be a Makefile. That _is_ the > > interface definition. > > Actually, we don't know that. The original documentation did not explicitel

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 02:07:33PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Andrew Suffield dijo [Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 07:57:20AM +0100]: > > So, we have two scenarios. Let the package be broken in such a way > > that it builds differently on different platforms. > > > > a) All packages uploaded to the archive

Re: search-citeseer_0.1-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2003-10-21 Thread Remi Vanicat
Marc Haber <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:22:33 +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: >>James is ftp-master, DAM, autobuilder admin, and part of the >>debian-admin team as well. He does the things he does the way he does >>them not because he doesn't like you, b

Re: faster boot

2003-10-21 Thread Osamu Aoki
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:08:11AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 02:44, Russell Coker wrote: > > Surely if a daemon takes a long time before it detaches from it's terminal > > and > > "goes daemon", then you can have a parent process put it in the background > > and direct it

Testing/help needed - experimental glibc version

2003-10-21 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
As some of you may have seen, there's a new version of glibc in unstable. It has a couple of nice features - particularly for x86, where both i686-optimized libraries and NPTL support are included. There are also sparcv9 libraries. And the packaging has been totally redone for a number of benefi

proper way to generate shlibs.local?

2003-10-21 Thread (mag)
Hi! There are several binary packages are created out of the zorp source. Some of them depends on libzorp2, generated from there as well. Because of that I need a shlibs.local file to tell dh_slibdeps about the versioned dependency. I am creating it from the shlibs file created dh_makeshlibs, thus

Re: faster boot

2003-10-21 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:08:11AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > System V initscripts must not return until the services they start are > ready to use. Otherwise running initscript Y after initscript X from > /etc/rc?.d/ doesn't guarantee that Y can make use of X. Providing such > guarantees is th

Re: search-citeseer_0.1-1_i386.changes REJECTED

2003-10-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Fri, 17 Oct 2003 12:22:33 +0200, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >James is ftp-master, DAM, autobuilder admin, and part of the >debian-admin team as well. He does the things he does the way he does >them not because he doesn't like you, but because that's the most >efficient use of hi

Re: Looking for Moshe Zadka

2003-10-21 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 10:46:34AM -0500, Kenneth Pronovici wrote: > Has anyone heard from Moshe Zadka lately, or know where I can find him? He's often on IRC as moshez - he tends to be pretty responsive there. -- "You grabbed my hand and we fell into it, like a daydream - or a fever."

Re: Where are we now? (Was: Bits from the RM)

2003-10-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 12:36:01AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: > On Thu, Oct 02, 2003 at 03:13:23AM -0500, Chris Cheney wrote: > > I still need to get KDE 3.1.4 into sid and stablized. I hope for it to > > be ready to migrate into sarge by Oct 20 (including the 10 day wait > > time). From what Colin

Re: Bug#215827: ITP: lartc -- Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO

2003-10-21 Thread Mark Ferlatte
Marc Haber said on Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:57:03PM +0200: > On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:24:25 +0200, Andreas Metzler > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >Being a normal Linuxdoc howto this has been available in Debian for a > >long time in doc-linux-html. > > And calling this document a HOWTO has been a jok

Re: Bug#215827: ITP: lartc -- Linux Advanced Routing and Traffic Control HOWTO

2003-10-21 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 15 Oct 2003 13:24:25 +0200, Andreas Metzler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >Being a normal Linuxdoc howto this has been available in Debian for a >long time in doc-linux-html. And calling this document a HOWTO has been a joke since at least two years. I don't consider myself entirely dumb, but

Re: faster boot

2003-10-21 Thread A Mennucc
Christoph Berg wrote: I've been thinking for a while to use a Makefile for that, the IBM article http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-boot.html uses make

Looking for Moshe Zadka

2003-10-21 Thread Kenneth Pronovici
Has anyone heard from Moshe Zadka lately, or know where I can find him? He hasn't responded to most of his currently-open bugs, and all of his bugs closed recently enough to still show up in the BTS have been closed by NMU. The developer database hasn't heard from him since June sometime. He has

Re: faster boot

2003-10-21 Thread Josh Lauricha
On Tue 10/21/03 14:44, Christoph Berg wrote: > I've been thinking for a while to use a Makefile for that, then you get > parallelizing for free with 'make -j'. It should be easy to set up the > rules for starting services; stopping might be more complex (how to > 'reverse' a Makefile?). You could

Re: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Sat, Oct 18, 2003 at 07:55:00PM -0500, John Goerzen wrote: > If you do not stick to the documented interfaces, you lose the > ability in my eyes to express outrage when the interfaces you use change. Except one important difference -- in this case, NOTHING CHANGES in the interface if the policy

Re: Package which uses jam (instead make)

2003-10-21 Thread Josip Rodin
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 09:54:13PM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > It is documented to be a Makefile. That _is_ the > interface definition. Actually, we don't know that. The original documentation did not explicitely say that all rules files absolutely need to be makefiles, but we warped i

Re: Bug#214036: im: imput doesn't work with Perl 5.8.1

2003-10-21 Thread H. S. Teoh
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 02:10:15PM +0200, Matthias Urlichs wrote: > Hi, Steve Kemp wrote: > > > The following change makes the code work as expected: > > Your change works as expected, but only because the file has just one line. > It's not a general solution. > > The general solution is not to

squid

2003-10-21 Thread Faturamento
what the last squid proxy? the squid on my firm, die every time. have any site,  specify for this? tkz fernando felizardo

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Sven Luther
On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 06:55:50PM +0200, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Hi, > > Am So, den 19.10.2003 schrieb Andrew Suffield um 21:08: > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2003 at 05:57:55PM +0200, Sven Luther wrote: > > The proposal was "All packages should be built in an artificial > > environment of this form". I

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Paul Hampson dijo [Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 02:19:53PM +1000]: > Oh, now we've gotten the "build packages against Testing" debate > intermingled with the "autobuild everything" debate? At least, that's > how I read that last paragraph... > > I was _expecting_ (based on the rest of the email) that you

Re: faster boot

2003-10-21 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: Re: faster boot [Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:08:11AM +0200, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>] > System V initscripts must not return until the services they start > are ready to use. Otherwise running initscript Y after initscript > X from /etc/rc?.d/ doesn't guarantee that Y

Re: Bug#214036: im: imput doesn't work with Perl 5.8.1

2003-10-21 Thread Matthias Urlichs
Hi, Steve Kemp wrote: > The following change makes the code work as expected: Your change works as expected, but only because the file has just one line. It's not a general solution. The general solution is not to use $! as an error indicator in perl. That doesn't work reliably. Likewise, you ca

Re: Debconf in Brazil?

2003-10-21 Thread Michelle Ribeiro
Em Mon, 20 Oct 2003 15:42:03 +0100 Steve McIntyre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> escreveu: Hi, > Hmm, yes. Anyone speak Portuguese? :-) We are talking in english in the list. Fell free to join us. Cheers, -- -- Michelle Ribeiro Debian GNU/Linux - Your next Linux distribution http://www.debian.org/

Re: Debconf in Brazil?

2003-10-21 Thread Goedson Teixeira Paixao
* Jesus Climent ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: > On Mon, Oct 20, 2003 at 01:14:59PM -0200, Leonardo Dias wrote: > > That would be nice. And it would be incredibly nice if it were in Sao > > Paulo, near the Paulista Avenue. > > I thought the idea was porto alegre... It will be in Porto Alegre. -- Go

Re: faster boot

2003-10-21 Thread Marc Singer
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 05:33:38AM +0200, Thomas Hood wrote: > On Tue, 2003-10-21 at 05:12, Russell Coker wrote: > > Hmm, maybe we could make it the rule that anything with number 99 can > > return > > before it's finished initialising? > > If the point here is to "speed up boot" then I think it

Re: Source only uploads?

2003-10-21 Thread Mark Brown
On Tue, Oct 21, 2003 at 09:52:14AM +1000, Brian May wrote: > 1. A package may not be important to developers, but is > still important to users. Alternatively, developers may simply > recompile the package without submitting a bug report. One would hope that developers would bother filing a bug r

Re: udev 0.3 package

2003-10-21 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Oct 20, Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> I'd like to know first if it works or not and how much useful it is in >> its current form, as I currently do not own any hot-pluggable device and >> cannot test it. >Why on earth did you ITP it if you can't test whether it works? "curren

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