Re: Accounts on debian.org machines

2003-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003 11:04, David B Harris <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Or are you saying that you used [EMAIL PROTECTED] for your > computing needs, including storing your unencrypted GPG, unencrypted SSH > key (or encrypted, in which case both of which use the passwords you've > posted), your email

Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-08 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 02:51:53AM +0100, Moritz Moeller-Herrmann wrote: > > On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 03:02:42PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: > > >> Except that AFAIK .desktops are still semantically richer than the > >> existing Debian system, and have more momentum behind them outside of > >> De

Re: Accounts on debian.org machines

2003-12-08 Thread Niall Young
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > >But an ssh key on removable media is not vulnerable to keysniffing > >alone, where a password is. > > There's no inherent increase in security from using a key on a > USB device other than the fact that attackers aren't thinki

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 01:28:20PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > Another problem is that host keys require SUID ssh client in the > default configuration. This hasn't been true since OpenSSH 3.3, and therefore since before woody. See ssh-keysign(8). openssh (1:3.3p1-0.0woody1) testing-security; u

Bug#223403: ITP: giftui -- Graphical user interface to giFT

2003-12-08 Thread Julien Delange
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: giftui Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://giftui.tuxfamily.org/ * License : GPL Description : Graphical user interface to giFT gifTui is a graphical user interface to the g

Re: Bits from the RM

2003-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 06:31:02PM +0100, Jan Nieuwenhuizen wrote: > Peter S Galbraith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > another package's was using convert in the build stage to convert > > some images and it was failing. The bug was elevated to > > release-critical. I don't think it would be fair

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 03:29:02PM -0800, Tom wrote: > Just rambling... I'm sure there's tons of holes in what I just said. All this rambling is getting pretty damn tedious as I try to read through two weeks' worth of debian-devel backlog. Could you please try to keep debian-devel posts to well-th

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Re: Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-08 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Andrew Suffield wrote: > On Fri, Dec 05, 2003 at 03:02:42PM +0800, Cameron Patrick wrote: >> Except that AFAIK .desktops are still semantically richer than the >> existing Debian system, and have more momentum behind them outside of >> Debian. Upstream packages are much more likely to ship to .d

Re: Debian packages and freedesktop.org (Gnome, KDE, etc) menu entries

2003-12-08 Thread Moritz Moeller-Herrmann
Andreas Metzler wrote: > Billy Biggs <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Steve Greenland ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): >>> On 04-Dec-03, 14:44 (CST), Nathanael Nerode <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> wrote: >>> > There's now a standard used by KDE and GNOME which has more features >>> > than the Debian menu system. > >>

Bug#223370: ITP: makeztxt -- Create zTXT databases from ASCII files to read them in a Palm

2003-12-08 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: makeztxt Version : 1.6.0 Upstream Author : John Gruenenfelder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://gutenpalm.sf.net/ * License : GPL Description : Create zTXT databases from ASCII files to read them in a Pal

Re: Building Debian Completely From Source

2003-12-08 Thread Bernd Eckenfels
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 06:47:44PM -0500, Matt Zimmerman wrote: > Yes, but building the complete Debian package is hopefully not necessary for > bootstrapping purposes, only to get a working make binary. So it would be wort to look at the LFS scripts, to get a minimum system boot strapped. On th

Re: Accounts on debian.org machines

2003-12-08 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 18:38:25 -0500 Joe Drew <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:37, David B Harris wrote: > > I've also yet to see anybody post their IP address, userid, and > > password for their publicly-accessible servers to a public mailing list > > :) > > I have. root, even.

Re: Building Debian Completely From Source

2003-12-08 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Tue, Dec 09, 2003 at 09:52:39AM +1100, Herbert Xu wrote: > Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > There are quite a few, but make is a bad example, as it has included a > > shell script to build itself for just this purpose. > > But its debian/rules is a makefile since the policy r

Re: Accounts on debian.org machines

2003-12-08 Thread Joe Drew
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 15:37, David B Harris wrote: > I've also yet to see anybody post their IP address, userid, and > password for their publicly-accessible servers to a public mailing list > :) I have. root, even. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2002/debian-devel-200206/msg01187.html --

Re: Initrd rocks! (was Re: Backporting 2.4.23 kernel packages)

2003-12-08 Thread Brian May
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 02:02:10PM +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > The recent versions of the package have significant problems if you want to > convert to or from devfs. The Debian mkinitrd has become too complex to > manage so I have chosen not to bother. This seems strange, perhaps the process

Re: Building Debian Completely From Source

2003-12-08 Thread Herbert Xu
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are quite a few, but make is a bad example, as it has included a > shell script to build itself for just this purpose. But its debian/rules is a makefile since the policy requires it to be so, right? :) -- Debian GNU/Linux 3.0 is out! ( http://

Re: Need help: Idle X-user?

2003-12-08 Thread David Z Maze
Dennis Stampfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > timeoutd loggs user out when they reached timeout-restrictions like max. > login-time, max. idle-time, etc. > > Is there any way to querry how long a X-user is idle? You might look at the xscreensaver driver source; the basic answer is "yes, about fou

Re: Accounts on debian.org machines

2003-12-08 Thread Scott James Remnant
On Mon, 2003-12-08 at 03:18, Matthew Garrett wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > >But an ssh key on removable media is not vulnerable to keysniffing > >alone, where a password is. > > If such behaviour becomes common, the keysniffers will simply copy > anything that looks like an SSH key that exi

Re: Accounts on debian.org machines

2003-12-08 Thread David B Harris
On Mon, 08 Dec 2003 03:18:53 + Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > >But an ssh key on removable media is not vulnerable to keysniffing > >alone, where a password is. > > If such behaviour becomes common, the keysniffers will simply copy > anything that looks li

Re: more details on the recent compromise of debian.org machines

2003-12-08 Thread Andreas Barth
Hi, * Marc Haber ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [031128 10:55]: > I would like to know whether the attacker was able to log in to auric, > even as unprivilieged user. Did she actively try to compromise auric? > > What kind of verification of auric's integrity was done / is planned > to be done? > > [more q

Assurance measures: ALC (The hidden treasure of Debian)

2003-12-08 Thread Magosányi Árpád
Hi! We will see here the assurance measures related to life cycle support. This is an area where Debian shines out even from the other open source projects. ALC_DVS.2 Sufficiency of security measures (EAL6, EAL7) ALC_DVS.2.1D The developer shall produce development security documentation

Re: Bad version number based on date advice in policy?

2003-12-08 Thread Rene Engelhard
Chad Walstrom wrote: > On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 04:20:07PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > That always struck me as a rather poor idea. What if we have two > > versions of a package, 1:1.0 and 2:1.0? Both will be foo_1.0_$ARCH.deb > > at the moment. > > IIRC, the actual filename in the archive is >

Re: Need help: Idle X-user?

2003-12-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Dennis Stampfer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi -devel, > > the program timeoutd was originally written when using X was not a matter > of course: > > timeoutd loggs user out when they reached timeout-restrictions like max. > login-time, max. idle-time, etc. > > Some users asked for X-Support.

Re: Need help: Idle X-user?

2003-12-08 Thread Steve Kemp
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 07:09:59PM +0100, Dennis Stampfer wrote: > Is there any way to querry how long a X-user is idle? If not, do you > think it's okay to write something like "IDLE-Logout does not work > with X" into Readme.Debian and into the config-file(,manpage, ...)? I'm not sure to be h

Re: debsums for maintainer scripts

2003-12-08 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Matt Zimmerman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 10:42:10PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > > > Having or not having is of the order of several 100MB. The shear > > number of debs makes the impact. > > Fortunately, the actual effect is much smaller since nearly all packa

Need help: Idle X-user?

2003-12-08 Thread Dennis Stampfer
Hi -devel, the program timeoutd was originally written when using X was not a matter of course: timeoutd loggs user out when they reached timeout-restrictions like max. login-time, max. idle-time, etc. Some users asked for X-Support. Well, X works well with "No login allowed at all" and "Login r

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Bug#223333: ITP: mecab-jumandic -- Juman dictionaries compiled for Mecab

2003-12-08 Thread TSUCHIYA Masatoshi
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: mecab-jumandic Version : 4.0 Upstream Author : Sadao Kurohashi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://www.kc.t.u-tokyo.ac.jp/nl-resource/juman.html * License : BSD Description : Juman dictionaries compiled for M

LDAP gateway broken?

2003-12-08 Thread John Goerzen
I just sent my first-ever message to the LDAP gateway to reset my password. I got the below message back. BTW, my clock is accurate. I used the exact "echo" command given in the docs. Also, I received no other reply. What gives? -- John On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 05:14:43PM +, [EMAIL PROTEC

Orphaning Firebird RDBMS

2003-12-08 Thread Grzegorz B. Prokopski
Hi! I haven't (seriously) used Firebird since a year and there's no chance I'll be using anytime soon. It's low maintenance software though as upstream is focused on firebird 1.5/2.0 Therefore I am going to orhpan: * firebird * php4-interbase (depending on firebird) Drop me note if you want to t

Re: Bad version number based on date advice in policy?

2003-12-08 Thread Chad Walstrom
On Mon, Dec 08, 2003 at 04:20:07PM +, Colin Watson wrote: > That always struck me as a rather poor idea. What if we have two > versions of a package, 1:1.0 and 2:1.0? Both will be foo_1.0_$ARCH.deb > at the moment. IIRC, the actual filename in the archive is foo_1.0-${EPOCH}%3a${DEBVE

Re: problem with bugs.debian.org

2003-12-08 Thread Colin Watson
On Tue, Dec 02, 2003 at 01:05:50AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Mon, Dec 01, 2003 at 01:35:38PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > The same happened to me with a bug reported against pbbuttonsd (don't > > have the number at hand right now). As a personal opinion I think the > > crontabs of th

Re: Building Debian Completely From Source

2003-12-08 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 04:10:36PM +, Scott James Remnant wrote: > make? You'll need make installed to make make. There are a huge number > of legitimate circular build dependencies, outlawing them won't help. There are quite a few, but make is a bad example, as it has included a shell scri

Re: debsums for maintainer scripts

2003-12-08 Thread Matt Zimmerman
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 10:42:10PM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > Having or not having is of the order of several 100MB. The shear > number of debs makes the impact. Fortunately, the actual effect is much smaller since nearly all packages have md5sums already. -- - mdz

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RE: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-08 Thread Julian Mehnle
Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:14, "Julian Mehnle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > You cannot verify the IP address *exactly*, but you can verify > > whether the IP address lies within a range. Dial-up users could at > > least register a certain address range, so as to vastly mitigate

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-08 Thread Russell Coker
On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 23:14, "Julian Mehnle" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > One problem with this is developer's machines that are on dial-up > > Internet connections. ÂIn the case of such machines you can verify the > > host key but not the IP address. > > You cannot verify the IP address *exactly*,

RE: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-08 Thread Julian Mehnle
Russell Coker wrote: > On Mon, 8 Dec 2003 13:16, Patrick Ouellette <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Instead of a smartcard/token/whatever physical device, this incident > > could possibly have been thwarted by requiring developers to > > pre-register their machine with the project (using ssh host key

Re: Backport of the integer overflow in the brk system call

2003-12-08 Thread Steinar H. Gunderson
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 09:16:58PM -0500, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > Instead of a smartcard/token/whatever physical device, this incident > could possibly have been thwarted by requiring developers to pre-register > their machine with the project (using ssh host key for example). The > attacker wo

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upload queue at erlangen

2003-12-08 Thread Paul Slootman
The developer's reference lists erlangen as one of the upload queues. However, I used it last week (as I assumed that I wouldn't be able to upload the way I usually did, i.e. directly to ftp-master via ssh). However, I was wondering how long it would take (I haven't really seen any announcement th

Bug#223311: ITP: debsigs-ng -- create and verify signatures on .deb-files

2003-12-08 Thread Andreas Barth
Package: wnpp Version: N/A; reported 2003-12-08 Severity: wishlist * Package name: debsigs-ng Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://debsigs.turmzimmer.net/ * License : GPL Description : create and verify signature

Re: exim4-config and exim4-base installed on systems with non-exim-MTA

2003-12-08 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Dec 07, 2003 at 09:53:11PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: > >So, why can't this be done without an exim4-config package in Debian, with > >something like the following arrangement: > > exim4-daemon > > provides/conflicts: mail-transport-agent > > postinst: > >