Re: debian.org e-mail address and SPF/SRS

2004-11-05 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 11:48:29AM -0200, Gustavo Franco wrote: > On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:38:20 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's a question you'll have to ask of Yahoo and the SPF people. My guess > > is that the pushers of these schemes want their thing adopted for whate

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 15:57 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > response 3: _is_ it the job of debian developers to dictate the minimum > acceptable security level? It is absolutely Debian's job to provide a baseline level of security by default. Debian doesn't let you install a syste

Re: Compiling in SELinux in the default kernels

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 15:02:04 +0100, Martin Pitt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Hi! Manoj Srivastava [2004-11-05 1:39 -0600]: >> I would once again like to bring up the possibility of compiling in >> support for SELinux in 2.6.9+ kernels, but leaving them disabled by >> default at boot time. [...]

Re: Alioth Project Denied

2004-11-05 Thread Roland Mas
Marcelo E. Magallon, 2004-11-05 01:50:05 +0100 : > On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:31:09AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Your project registration for Alioth has been denied. [...] > > If you decide to use an alioth project to comaintain a package, > > you need to include a "pkg-" prefix in

AIPS Part II

2004-11-05 Thread Justin Pryzby
Greetings, I mailed the list recently regarding my ITP AIPS: Astronomical Image Processing System. For anyone who might have considered sponsoring, here is some more info regarding its size. Source tar.gz: 67MB Initial .deb Size: 148MB Current .deb Size: 16MB arch dependent, 52MB arch independen

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
(...) > response 3: _is_ it the job of debian developers to dictate the minimum > acceptable security level? yes, it is. But we have to weight in the needs of our users. We want, after all, our operating system to be used in a large set of environments and some of those might break when enabli

Re: Synching mirrors and clients (was: Re: apt-proxy v2 and rsync)

2004-11-05 Thread Otto Wyss
> > > IIRC the problem is that rsync is quite CPU-heavy on the servers, so while > > > the mirrors have the (network) resources to feed downloads to 100s of > > > users, they don't have the (CPU) resources for a few dozen rsyncs. > > > > Why do you keep on saying this without providing _any_ figur

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Andres Salomon
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 15:57:52 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: [...] > response 3: _is_ it the job of debian developers to dictate the minimum > acceptable security level? It is the job of the kernel team to maintain the kernel. That includes ensuring the kernel runs correctly and quic

Re: debian.org e-mail address and SPF/SRS

2004-11-05 Thread Osamu Aoki
Hi, On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:22:30PM +0100, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 12:15:19AM +0100, > Osamu Aoki <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > a message of 47 lines which said: > > > If you know easy way to avoid this problem exists, please let me > > know. > > I remail my emai

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Nov 05, Stephen Smalley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Obviously, I'd prefer the default to be selinux=1, but as a temporary > measure to getting SELinux compiled into the Debian kernel at all, I > think it is reasonable to make the boot-time default selinux=0 in their > kernel, as SuSE did with

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Stephen Smalley
On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 10:11, Colin Walters wrote: > On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 10:28 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > i would agree with stephen that it should be compiled in, > > default options "selinux=no". > > I don't believe Stephen said that. He said that the performance hit in >

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Fri, Nov 05, 2004 at 10:11:01AM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 10:28 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:06:06PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > > On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 13:15 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > > > > > def

Re: mozilla-*-locale-* packages?

2004-11-05 Thread Alexander Sack
I think, that this would not be too hard to implement. On the other hand, there would still be problems that some translations might not be ready if mozilla* packages become ready to go in. IMHO, doing so looks like a trick to declare translations not to be release critical and in fact inferior t

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, 2004-11-05 at 10:28 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:06:06PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > > On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 13:15 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > > > default: no. > > > > Why not on by default, > > i would agree with steph

Re: Compiling in SELinux in the default kernels

2004-11-05 Thread Martin Pitt
Hi! Manoj Srivastava [2004-11-05 1:39 -0600]: > I would once again like to bring up the possibility of > compiling in support for SELinux in 2.6.9+ kernels, but leaving them > disabled by default at boot time. > [...] > I think this would be really helpful to our users, since the

Re: Compiling in SELinux in the default kernels

2004-11-05 Thread Frederik Dannemare
On Friday 05 November 2004 11:12, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Fri, 05 Nov 2004, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > I would once again like to bring up the possibility of > > compiling in support for SELinux in 2.6.9+ kernels, but leaving > > them disabled by default at boot time. Th

Re: debian.org e-mail address and SPF/SRS

2004-11-05 Thread Gustavo Franco
On Fri, 5 Nov 2004 16:38:20 +1100, Matthew Palmer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > That's a question you'll have to ask of Yahoo and the SPF people. My guess > is that the pushers of these schemes want their thing adopted for whatever > reason (corporate greed, personal gratification, whatever), but

a 'main' package from a non-free source

2004-11-05 Thread Jon Dowland
Hi All, I was considering packaging 'Cube' (http://www.cubeengine.com/) in order to get to grips with debian package management; and then possibly find a sponsor. However, there appears to be a latent licencing problem. The engine code is distributed under a licence which I believe is free (zlib

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Stephen Smalley
On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 23:06, Colin Walters wrote: > Why don't we just run say EROS (http://www.eros- > os.org/) instead? A: Because what makes SELinux interesting is that it > can run all of our legacy software. By not shipping it on everywhere, > we're not tapping that ability. Some of us might

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton
On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:06:06PM -0500, Colin Walters wrote: > On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 13:15 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: > > > default: no. > > Why not on by default, i would agree with stephen that it should be compiled in, default options "selinux=no". that gives people th

Re: mozilla-*-locale-* packages?

2004-11-05 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Christian Perrier wrote: From a thread in -devel, dated September, after an ITP for Swedish locale files for Mozilla stuff... I didn't pay to much attention to that thread, I am discovering it now. Quoting Alexander Sack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: I agree too. Actua

Re: Compiling in SELinux in the default kernels

2004-11-05 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > I would once again like to bring up the possibility of > compiling in support for SELinux in 2.6.9+ kernels, but leaving them > disabled by default at boot time. This can be accomplished by I second this request. -- "One disk to rule t

Re: debian.org e-mail address and SPF/SRS

2004-11-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Matthew Palmer | See, that's the thing that the FAQ was unclear on. If you don't have to | sign all headers, then you're OK. I was thinking the attachment of | Received: headers as being particularly problematic. To quote the FAQ: | | "Mailing lists that do not change the content or re-arra

Re: Synching mirrors and clients (was: Re: apt-proxy v2 and rsync)

2004-11-05 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder
On Thursday 04 November 2004 17.46, Otto Wyss wrote: > Why do you keep on saying this without providing _any_ figures! Who is "you" here? Please pay attention to attribution on mailing list postings - especially if you're starting a new thread with your mail. I posted this statement about cpu

Compiling in SELinux in the default kernels

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
The following message is a courtesy copy of an article that has been posted to gmane.linux.debian.devel.kernel as well. Hi, I would once again like to bring up the possibility of compiling in support for SELinux in 2.6.9+ kernels, but leaving them disabled by default at boot time. Thi

mozilla-*-locale-* packages?

2004-11-05 Thread Christian Perrier
>From a thread in -devel, dated September, after an ITP for Swedish locale files for Mozilla stuff... Quoting Alexander Sack ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > >I agree too. Actually, it makes more sense if we do a single package and > >integrate there mechanisms to

Re: Alioth Project Denied

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 18:18:43 -0600, Marcelo E Magallon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, Nov 04, 2004 at 11:31:09AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Your project registration for Alioth has been denied. >> >> Project Full Name: Window Maker Debian Package Project Unix Name: >> wmaker >> >> R

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 00:40:41 -0500, Andres Salomon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > Manoj, if you're referring to our conversation earlier on IRC, I > said that I have no personal interest in selinux, but I had no > problems with it being included as long as it's not a significant > performance hit.

Re: Updated SELinux Release

2004-11-05 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 23:06:06 -0500, Colin Walters <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > On Thu, 2004-11-04 at 13:15 +, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote: >> default: no. > Why not on by default, with a targeted policy, for everyone? > SELinux's flexibility allows one to easily turn it off for specifi