Re: Status of 'sarge' for the amd64 architecture

2005-04-22 Thread Andreas Jochens
Hello Steve, thank you for your reply to my status report. Steve Langasek wrote: > Andreas Jochens wrote: >> It will only be necessary to describe the current situation >> in the official release documents and include pointers >> to the separate amd64 archive, which will be provided >> by the

Re: Re: Packages with unusable documentation

2005-04-22 Thread Alban Browaeys
Le Fri, 22 Apr 2005 09:35:03 -0400, Dominic Amann a écrit : >> >> >>On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 10:35:32AM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote: >>> To solve my mkinitrd problem I searched for solutions. Each time someone >>> has run into my problem he was asked if module-init-tools are installed >>> and each time

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread luna
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005 13:58:31 -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 04:24:34PM -0500, Adam M wrote: >> In many ways, current testing is your stable. Extending the testing >> period from testing to your proposed candidate and then stable would >> do nothing about normal bugs. RC b

Re: Policy for devfs support

2005-04-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sat, 23 Apr 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > On Friday 22 April 2005 21:28, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL > PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > SE Linux also has a list of device names for initially labelling a file > > > system. Neither devfs nor devfs device names will work with SE Linux. > > > >

Re: Status of 'sarge' for the amd64 architecture

2005-04-22 Thread Frederik Schueler
Hello, On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 08:05:17PM +0200, Andreas Jochens wrote: > As a preparation for the amd64 porters irc meeting tomorrow, > I tried to build the complete Debian sarge archive for the > amd64 architecture from the unpatched Debian sarge sources. > > The result was very encouraging.

upload problems, public key not found

2005-04-22 Thread Juergen Strobel
Hi, I am the maintainer of kernel-patch-cryptoloop. I am not a DD, so my gpg key is not on the debian keyring. Almost noone uses kernel-patch-cryptoloop, so I let things slide. AFAIK, sarge is to use a 2.6.x kernel, so this package is mostly useless. However, a few people expressed interest recen

Re: upload problems, public key not found

2005-04-22 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 09:30:39PM +0200, Juergen Strobel wrote: [...] > I tried to upload an up to date version of this package today, but got > denied again. I can't remember how I got the initial version in. > > Questions: > > 1. Where does Katie look for public keys? In debian-keyring. >

Re: Policy for devfs support

2005-04-22 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 22 April 2005 21:28, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > SE Linux also has a list of device names for initially labelling a file > > system. Neither devfs nor devfs device names will work with SE Linux. > > That's fine. But regular packages should not limit thems

Re: Status of 'sarge' for the amd64 architecture

2005-04-22 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Andreas, On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 08:05:17PM +0200, Andreas Jochens wrote: > I consider this a good way to split up responsibilities. > This way of handling things could serve as a good example of > how other ports may be organized after sarge is released. I certainly agree with that; unfortu

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 02:54:38PM -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 07:16:30PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > > > The problem is that for many transitions, "slowly" means "never", since > > the criteria you set are unlikely to be fulfilled for all parts of such > > a tran

Re: Re: Packages with unusable documentation

2005-04-22 Thread Dominic Amann
On Sun, Apr 04, 2004 at 10:35:32AM +0200, Otto Wyss wrote: To solve my mkinitrd problem I searched for solutions. Each time someone has run into my problem he was asked if module-init-tools are installed and each time it was answered yes. Unfortunately also each time no further action is mentioned

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 04:24:34PM -0500, Adam M wrote: > A similar thing is already here in http://snapshot.debian.net/ Similar only in that they have daily snapshots. Vastly dissimilar in that what is provided is the complete archive, bugs and all. I'm not saying we call each day a release, bu

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 12:02:39PM -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 01:04:34AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > Let my try to explain it: > > > > > > The "debian stable == obsolete" is a release management problem of > > Debian. One release every year and it would be suitab

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Thu, Apr 21, 2005 at 01:04:34AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > Let my try to explain it: > > > The "debian stable == obsolete" is a release management problem of > Debian. One release every year and it would be suitable for most > purposes. > This is the problem. Debian has NEVER been able to

Re: advice needed on handling network port conflicts

2005-04-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 21-Apr-05, 11:07 (CDT), Eric Cooper <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > But if apt-proxy is still installed and running when apt-proxy starts > up, it will fail because the port is in use. Should I make the approx > package conflict with apt-proxy? Both packages allow the port to be > changed to som

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 04:56:32AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > The rules and goals of testing are clear. > > The more interesting points are the problems of testing that several > years of using it have shown. > > > If package FOO has a RC bug, then everything that depends on FOO will be > > stu

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 07:16:30PM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > The problem is that for many transitions, "slowly" means "never", since > the criteria you set are unlikely to be fulfilled for all parts of such > a transition at any time in the future. > > And the more time passes, it becomes m

Re: Bug#302309: ITP: bcron -- Bruce's cron system

2005-04-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 21-Apr-05, 05:12 (CDT), Gerrit Pape <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why re-write cron when cron only needs a minor change? > > I'm afraid I again can't follow your thinking. I'm pretty sure that he was only talking about implementing @reboot in bcron, rather than requiring a whole new system

Is Warren Turkal MIA?

2005-04-22 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, did anybody see Warran Turkal (the current maintainer of dbs) lately? He seems to be MIA WRT his NM-process and packaging work. I tried to reach him at <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> for a while now, but to no avail. Does anybody know of a another/better address? thanks, Michael -- Michael Banck De

Re: What do you win by moving things to non-free?

2005-04-22 Thread Steve Greenland
On 20-Apr-05, 16:48 (CDT), Matthew Garrett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And now you say it's *still* going on? > > Yes. For various reasons, I'm more hopeful now than I have been > previously. Well, I'll be amazed and delighted when you prove me

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread Eduard Bloch
Moin Patrick! Patrick Ouellette schrieb am Freitag, den 22. April 2005: > > And the more time passes, it becomes more and more complicated since > > additional transitions might be interdependent with a transition making > > the problem even more complicated. > > > > You are very good at repea

Status of 'sarge' for the amd64 architecture

2005-04-22 Thread Andreas Jochens
As a preparation for the amd64 porters irc meeting tomorrow, I tried to build the complete Debian sarge archive for the amd64 architecture from the unpatched Debian sarge sources. It took about a week to build all 8800+ source packages on a standard single processor EM64T-P4 box (Every package w

ITP: lynkeos.app -- Tool to process planetary astronomical images for GNUstep

2005-04-22 Thread Gürkan Sengün
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: lynkeos.app Version : 1.2 Upstream Authors: Christophe Jalady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jean-Etienne Lamiaud <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://lynkeos.sourceforge.net/ * License : GNU GPL Descrip

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread Patrick Ouellette
On Mon, Apr 18, 2005 at 07:37:40PM -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > Patrick Ouellette dijo [Sat, Apr 16, 2005 at 01:04:59AM -0400]: > > (...) > > Another difference is that testing will get new versions of packages and > > those versions might (but should not) cause breakage. Testing has had > > breaka

Re: Bug#304266: ITP: sdate -- never ending september date

2005-04-22 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Russell Coker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Incidentally I wrote a shared object to support changing the apparent time > which was actually useful for such tasks as Y2K testing and running demo > software. Getting it to change the time() library call was easy, changing > the time stamp on fil

Re: Temporal Release Strategy

2005-04-22 Thread Adrian Bunk
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 12:21:49PM -0400, Patrick Ouellette wrote: > On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 04:56:32AM +0200, Adrian Bunk wrote: > > The rules and goals of testing are clear. > > > > The more interesting points are the problems of testing that several > > years of using it have shown. > > > > >

libaio dupload imminent

2005-04-22 Thread William Lee Irwin III
Following up to Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, I've put together a libaio package at http://holomorphy.com/~wli/libaio/ I figured a year or so was long enough to give people time to complain about the kernel interface vs. glibc's worker thread -based emulation library and so on, and thus far I've

Re: upload problems, public key not found

2005-04-22 Thread Matthew Palmer
On Fri, Apr 22, 2005 at 09:30:39PM +0200, Juergen Strobel wrote: > Almost noone uses kernel-patch-cryptoloop, so I let things slide. AFAIK, > sarge is to use a 2.6.x kernel, so this package is mostly useless. > However, a few people expressed interest recently, and added to the old > bug report #25

Bug#305847: ITP: libservlet2.4-java -- Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 Java classes and documentation

2005-04-22 Thread Arnaud Vandyck
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: libservlet2.4-java Version : 2.4 Upstream Author : Apache Jakarta Group * URL or Web page : http://jakarta.apache.org/tomcat/index.html * License : Apache 2.0 Description : Servlet 2.4 and JSP 2.0 Java classes and docum

Bug#305843: ITP: kshutdown -- An advanced shut down utility for Linux/KDE

2005-04-22 Thread Romain Beauxis
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Romain Beauxis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: kshutdown Version : 0.6.0 Upstream Author : Konrad Twardowski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://kshutdown.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Description : An advance

Re: More about GFDL

2005-04-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Maciej Dems wrote: > I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. For which the simple answer is: Read http://people.debian.org/~srivasta/Position_Statement.xhtml -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all and in the dark

More about GFDL

2005-04-22 Thread Maciej Dems
I have a simple question concerning the GFDL discussion. Does the GFDL documentation which currently does not contain any invariant section have to go to non-free as well? As I understand the problem, such documentation is free and only can loose its freeness in the future. But the same can be

Re: Policy for devfs support

2005-04-22 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 22 Apr 2005, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sunday 27 March 2005 00:26, Roger Leigh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > Is there a project-wide policy for support for devfs (and devfs-style, > > e.g. udev devfs.rules) device naming? > > The SE Linux kernel code doesn't and won't support devfs. D

Re: spca5xx -- Device driver for USB webcams based on the spca5xx chips

2005-04-22 Thread Agustin Martin
On Wed, Apr 20, 2005 at 05:57:02PM -0700, Jeff Carr wrote: > Jurij Smakov wrote: > > >Since it is becoming more and more a kernel topic, you might also want > >to move discussion to debian-kernel. > > Could someone give us a simple rundown of how we would submit a patch to > the debian kernel s

Bug#305753: general: 38 packages still use 'Origin: debian'

2005-04-22 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, April 21, 2005 23:23, Dan Jacobson wrote: > It feels odd that a handful of packages seem to use a dusty field: > $ grep ^O /var/lib/dpkg/available|sort|uniq -c > 3 Origin: Debian > 35 Origin: debian > Shall I clone this bug to them to get them to take it away? Perhaps you can state in your