Re: Wanted: co-maintainer(s) for dovecot

2005-06-23 Thread Ondrej Sury
Hi Jaldhar, we are already using dovecot 1.0-stable on our production boxes. So if you need help hand I am available. Ondrej. On Wed, 2005-06-22 at 11:28 -0400, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Now that sarge has released, I really want to move to the 1-0stable > series > of the dovecot IMAP/POP3 serve

Re: packages.d.o mail (Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please)

2005-06-23 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Le jeudi 23 juin 2005 à 19:33 +0200, Andreas Barth a écrit : > * Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050623 19:31]: > > On Jun 23, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > There are plans to merge @packages.d.o and @packages.QA.d.o, so that > > > both reach the maintainer and the PTS subscr

Work-needing packages report for Jun 24, 2005

2005-06-23 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 225 (new: 28) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 100 (new: 4) Total number of packages reques

Re: Upcoming removal of orphaned packages

2005-06-23 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 20 Jun 2005, Andreas Tille wrote: README.Debian for the C++ version. If there is nobody hwo would be really keen on taking this over himself, I'll go for an upload in the next couple of days. I prepared a new upload but browsing through the list of bugs I found out that we might be abl

Re: Question regarding "offensive" material

2005-06-23 Thread Andrew Suffield
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 10:05:11PM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > * Andrew Suffield > > | On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:32:36PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > | > I therefore propose > | > that we do the following: > | > > | > * Don't install any screensaver modules whatsoever, except one that > |

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Russell Coker wrote: > Why is it tolerable to receive 200 spams in a day? On a bad day I will > receive over 100 spams even though I use most of the anti-spam measures that > some people in this discussion don't like. I receive ~500/day. Of those maybe 4 make it through SpamAssassin. I rarely

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Steve Kemp wrote: > Email may appear to be realtime, and you may even expect it to > be because this is frequently how it works. But this is not guaranteed. > > Either way people's, misguided, beliefs on the realtimeness of > email delivery is not a valid reason to choose against greylisti

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-23 Thread Anthony DeRobertis
Humberto Massa Guimarães wrote: > And this is my problem with the inclusion of MF's trademark usage in > our package: the right to include such trademark *is* attached to > the program (after all, it's the original name of the program (**)); > it's a right that *must* *not* *depend* on the program

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-23 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Tollef Fog Heen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > | I'm saying you must make sure you can get bug reports from users. > > So having you maintainer address be a sink to /dev/null would be fine > since you can read bug reports on the web. No. You need to be able to get bug reports from users even if t

Re: Reduce the amount of spam for @debian.org

2005-06-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Petter Reinholdtsen | - If the other side is listed in one of this blacklists, act as a |_very_ slow SMTP server. The initial hello reply is delayed 1-2 |minutes in this case, and if the client try to send anything in |this period, the connection is dropped. The SMTP protocol spe

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Thomas Bushnell BSG | Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: | | > On 18-Jun-05, 17:24 (CDT), Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | >> | >> An email address with such blocking on it is therefore not suitable | >> for the Maintainer: field of a Debian package. | > | > Any spam

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Simon Richter
Hi, Roberto C. Sanchez schrieb: > Someone recommended that I use dummy packages of iceme and icepref that > depend on icewmcp. But, if I also make icewmcp Replace and Conflict > with iceme and icepref, will that not cause problems (since the new > dummy versions of iceme and icepref will depend

Re: Testing package installation, upgrading, and removal

2005-06-23 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > I've been thinking about that kind of package testing as well, but > haven't gotten very far with it. See my two web log entries about it: > > http://liw.iki.fi/liw/log/2005-05.html#20050507b > http://liw.iki.fi/liw/log/2005-05.html#20050509c > > In other words, I don't think it should be

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-23 Thread Philipp Kern
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 David Moreno Garza wrote: > Now spread the word between maintainers of prospective packages to use > the RFS reportbug template once it is ready. :) Perhaps it should just be announced to debian-mentors and put into all those FAQs related to it (apart

Re: TODO for etch ?

2005-06-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Rich Walker | email (exim) should start before programs that send email (mailman, | smartmontools) No? /usr/sbin/sendmail usually works when the mail system is down (and mailman sends out mail itself in the default configuration, so the only reason for it needing an SMTPd on the host is to re

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:45:26AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > On 6/23/05, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The one I can think of is honouring the "Replaces:" field, meaning > > > that when a package states that it replaces another one, apt, > > > aptitude, dselect, and all

Bug#315592: RFH aboot (Alpha bootloader): Looking for co-maintainers

2005-06-23 Thread Helge Kreutzmann
Subject: RFH: aboot Package: wnpp Severity: normal I maintain aboot now for about 2 years, but unfortunately my private alpha run into serious problems late last year, and now I lost access to the university machines, so I currently cannot work on aboot. I am still interested in the alpha-archit

Re: Question regarding "offensive" material

2005-06-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Andrew Suffield | On Wed, Jun 15, 2005 at 02:32:36PM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: | > I therefore propose | > that we do the following: | > | > * Don't install any screensaver modules whatsoever, except one that | > shows a blank screen and turns off the monitor after a while. | | This is cal

Re: And now for something completely different... etch!

2005-06-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Paul TBBle Hampson | The charset of your terminal is orthogonal to the charset you're | talking on the IRC network with to my mind, since even the built-in | recode support lets you set a default charset for IRC traffic. No, it's not, since at least one of the most popular IRC clients (irssi)

Re: ftp-master, ftp and db .debian.org moving - hosting sought

2005-06-23 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 20.02, Olaf van der Spek wrote: [debian infrastructure] > I've been wondering, would it be an idea (for the long-term) to use > (more) distributed ... or p2p concepts to reduce the dependency and > load on central servers? You said it yourself: in the long term. I think

Re: Ongoing Firefox (and Thunderbird) Trademark problems

2005-06-23 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Eric Dorland | * Tollef Fog Heen ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote: | > * Eric Dorland | > | > | BTW, any Ubuntu developers care to comment? I'm interested in second | > | opinions and how you guys are handling this situation? Did you accept | > | an arrangement with MoFo? | > | > We've been in tou

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 10:47:00AM -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > > What, 239 packages out of some 16000 total? What exactly is > the problem? This is a miniscule number, and the disk requirements > for a dummy package is negligible. Now, novice users can possibly be (...) I guess you

Re: Idea for GAIM add-on (maybe a Summer of Code Project)

2005-06-23 Thread Peter Samuelson
[james winter] > I just installed a Pluto Home system (plutohome.com). It’s a free, > open source smarthome and media server. You put Bluetooth dongles on > all the pc’s in your house, and then when you enter a room your > Symbian Bluetooth phone turns into a remote control for everything in > tha

Re: Question about replacing obsolete packages.

2005-06-23 Thread Eduard Bloch
#include * Brian M. Carlson [Wed, Jun 22 2005, 10:01:49PM]: > > iceme or icepref installed should see a new version, which brings in > > icewmcp. What is the best way in which to accomplish this? > > Make iceme and icepref dummy packages that just depend on icewmcp. And please make symlinks (o

Re: packages.d.o mail (Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please)

2005-06-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Marco d'Itri ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050623 19:31]: > On Jun 23, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > There are plans to merge @packages.d.o and @packages.QA.d.o, so that > > both reach the maintainer and the PTS subscribers. The QA address > > requires the presence of an X-PTS-Approve

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050623 18:04]: > On Thursday 23 June 2005 21:54, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The packages.d.o-addresses are a really useful tool for contacting > > multiple maintainers e.g. for transitions. They were quite helpful > > during e.g. the release of

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-23 Thread David Moreno Garza
On Thu, 2005-06-23 at 15:46 +0200, Nico Golde wrote: > Ok, I mailed Neil it seems that he started what I want to do > too... Now spread the word between maintainers of prospective packages to use the RFS reportbug template once it is ready. :) -- David Moreno Garza <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | http://ww

Re: unsubscribe

2005-06-23 Thread Alban browaeys
Le lundi 16 mai 2005 à 10:58 +0200, Bezecny Martin a écrit : > > To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] >with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED] lol this was added by the debian-devel list . jack wanted to unsusbscribe from debian-changes . Thus To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: packages.d.o mail (Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please)

2005-06-23 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Jun 23, Adeodato Simó <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > There are plans to merge @packages.d.o and @packages.QA.d.o, so that > both reach the maintainer and the PTS subscribers. The QA address > requires the presence of an X-PTS-Approved header to let a message > reach @p.q.d.o, but I never

resolution of licensing with httperf

2005-06-23 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
I have been corresponding with the developer and maintainer of httperf [0], which I intend to adopt. The issue was that a libssl linking exception was needed for the package. They are currently making inquiries at HP as to how exaclty go about this from their end, but the deevloper and the mainta

Re: TODO for etch ?

2005-06-23 Thread Alban Browaeys
Le dimanche 19 juin 2005 à 23:22 +0200, Florian Weimer a écrit : > * Marc Haber: > > > On Sun, 19 Jun 2005 08:20:49 -0500, Adam Majer > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >>That could "save" a grand total of about a second. > > > > It will save time in case of error when the bootup process stalls for

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 07:22:28PM +0300, Brian Nelson wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:02:44PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > > > > Right. However, what I would like is to be able to do it *without* > > using dummy packages. I think that what I want is not possible without > > dummy pack

Idea for GAIM add-on (maybe a Summer of Code Project)

2005-06-23 Thread james winter
I think one of the biggest hassles with instant messaging is that it’s tied to the computer. If I’m away from the computer, like watching tv, I may miss an important IM. I can leave the speakers on the PC really loud, but then I’m always jumping up and running back to the PC to read an incoming IM

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 08:32:35 -0500, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > I think that there have been proposals for a new header that > accomplishes what you want, but it's never gone anywhere. I suspect > that the effort has not been viewed as worthwhile, given that > there's no new func

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Brian Nelson
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:02:44PM -0400, Roberto C. Sanchez wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:38:34PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > > On 6/23/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > OK. How would I make use of this. I was going to adopt iceme and > > > icepref, but then I

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:38:34PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > On 6/23/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > OK. How would I make use of this. I was going to adopt iceme and > > icepref, but then I saw that they are abandoned upstream. They have > > become modules of IceW

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, 23 Jun 2005 11:45:26 -0300, Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said: > And basically, what it says is that if a package "Replaces:" and > "Conflicts:" with another package, the new one is completely > replacing the old one. > So, when both "Replaces:" and "Conflicts:" are there, an

Re: Received: lines in email from Debian servers

2005-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Friday 24 June 2005 00:29, Rob Sims <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:45:14PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > Below is a sample from the headers of a mail sent to me by gluck. You > > will note that my server logs that the envelope recipient was > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] while

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 6/23/05, Roberto C. Sanchez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > OK. How would I make use of this. I was going to adopt iceme and > icepref, but then I saw that they are abandoned upstream. They have > become modules of IceWMCP. I am going to package IceWMCP with the > intent that it replace iceme a

Re: raidtools2 -> mdadm change: woes and problems

2005-06-23 Thread Agustin Martin
On Wed, Jun 22, 2005 at 07:16:22PM +1000, Brian May wrote: > On 2 of the systems I have upgraded, I had serious problems with > mdadm. > > The documentation said that there was no need for a config file, and I > never used a 2.2 kernel, so the paragraphs starting with "If your RAID > array was cr

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-23 Thread Russell Coker
On Thursday 23 June 2005 21:54, Andreas Barth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050622 11:22]: > > On Monday 20 June 2005 21:45, "Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Anyway, the major problem now are the @packages.debian.org addresses, I > > > have ~20 of

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Roberto C. Sanchez
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 11:45:26AM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > On 6/23/05, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > The one I can think of is honouring the "Replaces:" field, meaning > > > that when a package states that it replaces another one, apt, > > > aptitude, dselect, and all

Re: packages.d.o mail (Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please)

2005-06-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Adeodato Simó ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050623 16:50]: > * Andreas Barth [Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:54:29 +0200]: > > The packages.d.o-addresses are a really useful tool for contacting > > multiple maintainers e.g. for transitions. They were quite helpful > > during e.g. the release of sarge. > > There a

Re: Received: lines in email from Debian servers

2005-06-23 Thread Rob Sims
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 12:45:14PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > Below is a sample from the headers of a mail sent to me by gluck. You will > note that my server logs that the envelope recipient was [EMAIL PROTECTED] > while gluck puts no such data in the log entry. > > This lack of information

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 6/23/05, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The one I can think of is honouring the "Replaces:" field, meaning > > that when a package states that it replaces another one, apt, > > aptitude, dselect, and all the others would install it to replace of > > the old one. > That is not wh

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread John Hasler
Steve Greenland writes: > Dummy packages work, and have the advantage that it's very clear what is > going on. Users often find them very confusing. -- John Hasler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: KDE apps up for adoption

2005-06-23 Thread Ben Burton
> I guess we (qt-kde team) could do it. and anybody interested in doing > it too could join us (only having an alioth account is required) and > maintain those inside our svn. Works for me, ta. b. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Cont

packages.d.o mail (Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please)

2005-06-23 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Andreas Barth [Thu, 23 Jun 2005 13:54:29 +0200]: > The packages.d.o-addresses are a really useful tool for contacting > multiple maintainers e.g. for transitions. They were quite helpful > during e.g. the release of sarge. There are plans to merge @packages.d.o and @packages.QA.d.o, so that

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-23 Thread Nico Golde
Hey, * Peter Samuelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-23 15:25]: > [Nico Golde] > > what about including the possibility of an RFS in reportbug? > > I think this would be a good idea because I often see RFS > > requests which are totally stupid. > > Encouraging people so inexperienced as to post st

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-23 Thread Nico Golde
Hello Christian, * Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2005-06-23 15:30]: > Quoting David Moreno Garza ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > > You could write the patch, file a wishlist bug against reportbug and > > send it to the bug. > > > Or, even, if you're not able to write the patch (noone can actu

Re: dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Steve Greenland
On 23-Jun-05, 08:03 (CDT), Margarita Manterola <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The one I can think of is honouring the "Replaces:" field, meaning > that when a package states that it replaces another one, apt, > aptitude, dselect, and all the others would install it to replace of > the old one. Tha

dummy packages and "Replaces:" field

2005-06-23 Thread Margarita Manterola
Hi! As you all know, dummy packages are an ugly hack. They require maintainers to do an unnecesary upload and mean that we need to keep an unuseful package in the archive just to be able to replace the old package. Even if dummy packages fulfill their mission, I believe better solutions are in o

Re: Greylisting for @debian.org email, please

2005-06-23 Thread Andreas Barth
* Russell Coker ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) [050622 11:22]: > On Monday 20 June 2005 21:45, "Marco d'Itri" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Anyway, the major problem now are the @packages.debian.org addresses, I > > have ~20 of them and most days they account for 1/3 to 1/2 of all the > > spam I receive (and

Re: Reportbug and RFS

2005-06-23 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting David Moreno Garza ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > You could write the patch, file a wishlist bug against reportbug and > send it to the bug. Or, even, if you're not able to write the patch (noone can actually be fluent in all the damn programming languages in the world...:-)), just send the wish

Re: Testing package installation, upgrading, and removal

2005-06-23 Thread Kevin Mark
On Thu, Jun 23, 2005 at 02:45:34AM +0300, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > la, 2005-06-18 kello 22:53 -0400, Joey Hess kirjoitti: > > I want to run a test that installs each package in woody in turn, > > upgrades them to sarge, then to sid, then purges it, then looks for > > /usr/doc and /usr/info stuff tha