Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Loïc Minier
Hi, On Tue, Jan 24, 2006, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > AFAIK that's only if you want to distribute their binary. If you want to > distribute their source, then that's just the MIT license. Yes, that's how I see it too. > Plenty of GPLd applications in Debian still use GStreamer, so this > doe

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 25 janvier 2006 à 17:08 +1100, Russell Coker a écrit : > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 12:10, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > 2) We take the patent issue seriously, and drop all MP3 support. > > MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main. Unlike many patents the MPEG >

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Russell Coker
On Wednesday 25 January 2006 17:40, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 17:08 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main. Unlike many patents the > > MPEG patents probably have a good basis. > > To make it clear, this is a *radical* div

Re: Autobuilding and the build-arch target, again

2006-01-25 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 11:21:55PM +0100, Bill Allombert wrote: > On Mon, Jan 23, 2006 at 11:08:00PM +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > And I would strongly suggest you to consider Simon Richter's proposal, > > which sounds a lot cleaner to me: if you have build-depends-indep in > > your debian/cont

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* Josselin Mouette: > We are talking about a MP3 *decoding* plugin. Like the ones we > already have in so many packages we have stopped counting. Just to clarify since you put that emphasis on decoding: There is no difference between decoders and encoders. Both require patent licenses. There a

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 25 janvier 2006 à 11:53 +0100, Florian Weimer a écrit : > Just to clarify since you put that emphasis on decoding: > > There is no difference between decoders and encoders. Both require > patent licenses. But as I understand it, only the encoding patents are enforceable. If we start

Re: /run vs. /lib/run

2006-01-25 Thread Thomas Hood
Peter Samuelson wrote: > That's a bug, IMO - they should mkdir -p in their init scripts if > necessary. It's not like that's hard to do. Tim Cutts wrote: > [...] In my case I was mounting /var/run > and /var/lock as tmpfs filesystems all the time to reduce hard disk > access on a machine tha

Bug#349810: ITP: zope-attachmentfield -- an Archetypes field with advanced indexing features for Zope

2006-01-25 Thread Jérémy Bobbio
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Jérémy Bobbio" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: zope-attachmentfield Version : 1.3.3 Upstream Author : Ingeniweb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://ingeniweb.sourceforge.net/Products/AttachmentField/ * License : GPL

Re: Autobuilding and the build-arch target, again

2006-01-25 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Wouter Verhelst [Wed, 25 Jan 2006 10:14:26 +0100]: > Yes, but only if packages who declare build-depends-indep without having > build-arch exist. Anyone feel like finding that out? ;-) Simon run a test through the archive prior to sending his mail, to find out. -- Adeodato Simó

Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-25 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le vendredi 20 janvier 2006 à 14:17 +, Paul Brossier a écrit : > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 04:09:28AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > > > [Jérôme Warnier] > > > Or even better: a list of all packages already installed on my system > > > which have an experimental version? > > > > There might

Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-25 Thread Jérôme Warnier
Le vendredi 20 janvier 2006 à 15:04 +0100, Michal Politowski a écrit : > On Fri, 20 Jan 2006 10:34:11 +0100, Jérôme Warnier wrote: > [...] > > BTW, is there a way to list all packages in experimental? > > aptitude search '~Aexperimental' > > > Or even better: a list of all packages already instal

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Benjamin Seidenberg
Joe Wreschnig wrote: It's clear to me you've never had to use an iRiver's Ogg support. It fails outside a limited bitrate range, drains battery faster, does not read metadata, and is not available on all devices. Newer iRivers also use a proprietary communications protocol that is not yet suppor

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 19:58 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Wednesday 25 January 2006 17:40, Joe Wreschnig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 17:08 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > > MP3 software does not belong in Debian/main. Unlike many patents the > > > MPEG patents probably

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Wreschnig
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 09:35 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote: > Hi, > > On Tue, Jan 24, 2006, Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > AFAIK that's only if you want to distribute their binary. If you want to > > distribute their source, then that's just the MIT license. > > Yes, that's how I see it too. > > >

Bug#349837: ITP: tams -- program for qualitative analysis of marked-up text

2006-01-25 Thread Matej Cepl
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Matej Cepl <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 * Package name: tams Version : 2.79 Upstream Author : Matthew Weinstein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://tamsys.sourceforge.net * License : G

returning emeritus developer, no response from [EMAIL PROTECTED]

2006-01-25 Thread Britton Kerin
I send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] over a week ago, as described here: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2005/02/msg3.html so far not even a response telling me I'm in a queue. Is the procedure described above still the right one? Thanks, Britton -- Britton Kerin [EMAIL P

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Brian M. Carlson
On Wed, 2006-01-25 at 08:25 +0100, Daniel Baumann wrote: > Joe Wreschnig wrote: > > Are you going to sign the contract? I'm sure not putting my signature on > > anything about MP3s. > > I'm afraid I can't as a poor little NM :) From the Book of Policy (v3.6.2.2), Section 2.3: We reserve the ri

Re: Bug#349693: ITP: gst-fluendo-mp3 -- MP3 decoder plugin for GStreamer

2006-01-25 Thread Daniel Baumann
Brian M. Carlson wrote: > I would like to point out that if SPI (Debian's parent) doesn't have > rights to distribute (not just the individual DD), then this cannot > possibly be legally distributed by Debian. It was intendet for a non-free package, not for main (the policy matches for non-free to

Re: [Pbuilder-maint] Re: A bit of experience after having updated some packages to use pbuilder-test testsuite engine.

2006-01-25 Thread Junichi Uekawa
Hi, > On Tue, Jan 24, 2006, Junichi Uekawa wrote: > > I've checked out xnee, I've noticed that the info documentation was > > not properly installed, and provided a patch. Looked over the BTS, > > tried running, found the same error as bug 315736. > > Curious of xnee, I installed it to try out t

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How to purge linux-image-2.6.14

2006-01-25 Thread Cesare Leonardi
Hi all. I would ask a question i've already posted in the #344767 bug report. Recently i've talked with someone else that cannot purge the 2.6.14 kernel, due to bug #344767. It's a known problem, already solved for 2.6.15, but for people that still use 2.6.14 or have used it, the problem of pu

Re: How to purge linux-image-2.6.14

2006-01-25 Thread Edward Shornock
On Thu, Jan 26, 2006 at 02:53:57AM +0100, Cesare Leonardi wrote: > Hi all. > I would ask a question i've already posted in the #344767 bug report. > > Recently i've talked with someone else that cannot purge the 2.6.14 > kernel, due to bug #344767. It's a known problem, already solved for > 2.6.

Re: How to purge linux-image-2.6.14

2006-01-25 Thread Sam Morris
Cesare Leonardi wrote: Recently i've talked with someone else that cannot purge the 2.6.14 kernel, due to bug #344767. It's a known problem, already solved for 2.6.15, but for people that still use 2.6.14 or have used it, the problem of purging it completely still exist. For example on my machi

Re: Obsolete packages in Experimental

2006-01-25 Thread Daniel Burrows
On Wed, Jan 25, 2006 at 04:25:52PM +0100, Jérôme Warnier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was heard to say: > Le vendredi 20 janvier 2006 à 14:17 +, Paul Brossier a écrit : > > On Fri, Jan 20, 2006 at 04:09:28AM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > > > > > [Jérôme Warnier] > > > > Or even better: a list of a