Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-03-02 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 11:48:56PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > > [Brian May] > > I think these should belong in a separate category then ndiswrapper, > > because, unlike ndiswrapper, they are not even "complete" packages > > without non-free software, and this will never change for the > > lif

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-03-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 11:48:56PM -0600, Peter Samuelson wrote: > [Brian May] > > Even if nobody does this, it is still possible to integrate > > ndiswrapper with free software (such as debian-installer)[1]. The > > same thing cannot be said (IMHO) for an installer package. > > Eh? Why not? Why

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 1 Mar 2006 12:47:59 -0600, Steve Greenland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >On 01-Mar-06, 08:57 (CST), Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > * License : BSD-like >> > Description : Brainfuck compiler >> >> What is this us

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit "Tim Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > A programming language with the minimum number of instructions > necessary to be turing-complete and have I/O may be more than a toy > for some people. Perhaps. But (1) brainfuck isn't that; it has twice as many basic instructions as combinatory lambda c

Bug#354950: ITP: gauche-readline -- A readline-like library for the Gauche Scheme implementation

2006-03-02 Thread Panu Kalliokoski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: gauche-readline Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Julian Fondren, Shiro Kawai * URL : http://www.shiro.dreamhost.com/scheme/gauche/packages.html * License : public domain

Bug#354952: ITP: sokoedit -- A curses-based Sokoban level editor

2006-03-02 Thread Panu Kalliokoski
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: sokoedit Version : 1 Upstream Author : Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://sange.fi/~atehwa/sokoedit/ * License : BSD-like Description : A curses-

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Panu Kalliokoski
(I'm not on -devel, so I constructed this reply by hand.) > And given the reaction to porn-get and bitchx and > whatever-the-stripping-cpu-monitor-was-called , I tend to assume[2] that > the true intent of such an ITP is to instigate yet another 500 post > flame war between the "but what about the

Re: debconf and cdebconf are coinstallable now

2006-03-02 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-02 05:08]: > Joey has been campaigning [1] for a while to get everything in the > archive changed to depend on debconf | debconf-2.0 or similar rather > than just debconf, in order that we can start rolling out cdebconf > as its replacement. It would be

Looking for a autotools/libtool expert: Unnecessarily linked libraries

2006-03-02 Thread Frank Küster
tags 353693 help thanks The Problem: - Binaries in the tetex-bin package are unnecessarily linked against libraries they do not use directly, but only indirectly through other libraries [1]. - The solution described at [2] doesn't work, probably because the package doesn't use automake.

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-03-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 08:32:46AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > It's common for e.g. network card manufacturers to provide their images > on a floppy disk. If ndiswrapper were integrated into d-i, then it would > be possible to let the user insert the floppy disk provided by the > manufacturer and

Bug#354654: general: fat32 gets corrupted

2006-03-02 Thread Juan Piñeros
Hello, Since I have the need to continue to work with my machine1, I finally did an apt-get dist-upgrade for machine1, and installed debian kernel 2.6.15-1-686. I erased fat32 partition and replaced it by a ext2 and give access to it from windows using fs-driver. I will see if problems are stil

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Mar-06, 05:31 (CST), Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I only saw the last one of the flame wars you mention, and it didn't > even cross my mind that this ITP would gather similar attention. Then I apologize for implying otherwise. > Note that the package name does not have a

Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)

2006-03-02 Thread Cord Beermann
Hallo! Du (Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a) hast geschrieben: >I've just bounced all the spam from Debian mailing lists that got through my >(local and ISP's) filters and I had stored in a separate folder to that >address. They are 33, hopefully it will not get me blacklisted. > >Is it OK if we, mu

Bug#354976: ITP: bbweather -- Dockapp to show the current weather conditions.

2006-03-02 Thread Jari Aalto
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: bbweather Version : 0.6.2 Upstream Author : Jan Schaumann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.netmeister.org/apps/bbweather/index.html * License : GPL Description : d

Re: lists.d.o Spam (was: Marking BTS spam)

2006-03-02 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 07:33:04AM -0600, Cord Beermann wrote: > it's not ok to bounce us spam from years ago, this address is another > feedback-loop to enhace our filters, it's useless to get old[1] spam > there. Well, I thought it would be useful to a) have spam mails from the mailing list a

Re: debconf and cdebconf are coinstallable now

2006-03-02 Thread Mario Lang
Martin Michlmayr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-02 05:08]: >> Joey has been campaigning [1] for a while to get everything in the >> archive changed to depend on debconf | debconf-2.0 or similar rather >> than just debconf, in order that we can start rolli

Re: Bug#353277: ndiswrapper in main

2006-03-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:27:48PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 08:32:46AM +, Colin Watson wrote: > > It's common for e.g. network card manufacturers to provide their images > > on a floppy disk. If ndiswrapper were integrated into d-i, then it would > > be possible to

Re: debconf and cdebconf are coinstallable now

2006-03-02 Thread Colin Watson
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 11:59:02AM +, Martin Michlmayr wrote: > * Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-02 05:08]: > > Joey has been campaigning [1] for a while to get everything in the > > archive changed to depend on debconf | debconf-2.0 or similar rather > > than just debconf, in order

Re: debconf and cdebconf are coinstallable now

2006-03-02 Thread Martin Michlmayr
* Colin Watson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006-03-02 15:03]: > * smaller > * should generally be faster > * maintaining two debconf implementations is hard work > * consistent UI between installer and installed system > That's what I can think of at the moment, anyway. Thanks, that list was exac

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Mario Lang
Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> * License : BSD-like >> Description : Brainfuck compiler > > What is this useful for? Curling braincells... I once wrote a Emacs Lisp implementation[1] of a BrainFuck compiler, its prob

Re: USB-to-UART converter

2006-03-02 Thread Andrew Pollock
On Tue, Feb 28, 2006 at 09:02:46AM -0800, kos wrote: > Hi, > > I am trying to use a USB-to-UART (8 port) converter. I expected it to > get recognized and create device names like /dev/ttyUSB0, /dev/ttyUSB1 > ./dev/ttyUSB7. However, this did not happen. > > [Surprisingly, the single USB-to-UAR

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 10:43:54 +0100 Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Scripsit "Tim Olsen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > A programming language with the minimum number of instructions > > necessary to be turing-complete and have I/O may be more than a toy > > for some people. > > Perhaps.

Re: buildd and experimental

2006-03-02 Thread Roland Mas
Wouter Verhelst, 2006-03-01 21:40:14 +0100 : >> I'm most concerned about i386; will it get built for that? > > Most likely. If not, nobody's keeping you from building manually -- > or from asking someone else to build it. In case it helps: I'm right now uploading a set of i386 packages to http://

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Andrea Bolognani <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > BrainFuck is not just a proof-of-concept or a toy language. You can write > actual programs using it. > Seriously, there is even a complete textual adventure written in BrainFuck: > http://jonripley.com/i-fiction/games/LostKingdomBF.html Do you clai

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Henning Makholm
Scripsit Panu Kalliokoski <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > I only saw the last one of the flame wars you mention, and it didn't > even cross my mind that this ITP would gather similar attention. For the record, I don't care any which way about the name [1]; my reaction would have been the same if it was cal

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-02 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:58:12 +0100 Henning Makholm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Do you claim that this is _not_ just a proof-of-concept item? No. It's fully usable and enjoinable. -- KiyuKo "Like Russian Rulette with six bullets loaded" pgpWVdTmi9Ukg.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bug#353277: Please reject to rule on the ndiswrapper question

2006-03-02 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Wed, 01 Mar 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Wed, Mar 01, 2006 at 01:03:56AM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Otherwise, the ctte could overrule just about everything in Debian. Were > > they not bound by the SC themselves, they could overrule even the SC itself > > by determining

the latest gnome

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
The latest gnome (2.12.2 according to Desktop>About GNOME) has, like all previous "up"grades, disabled my preference for emacs-style editing in forms, etc. It used to be in the Keyboard Preferences dialog, but as I have become accustomed to seeing, the latest version has removed more features, in

Re: the latest gnome

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > In any case, since the latest gnome has also disabled the help system > (or rather, the most up-to-date manual is the accessibility guide for > 2.8 and the user's guide for 2.6), where has the feature moved to this > week? Ah, fortunately, the Fre

Bug#355030: ITP: ultimate-othello -- classic othello game with nice graphics

2006-03-02 Thread Jari Aalto
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ultimate-othello Version : 1789.12 Upstream Author : Jean-Christophe Hoelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://www.ios-software.com/?page=projet&quoi=2&lg=AN * License : GPL

Re: Solicito lista de mails

2006-03-02 Thread Liliana
Como consigo listas de mails del mundo, como te pago, estoy en Tenerife -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Looking for a autotools/libtool expert: Unnecessarily linked libraries

2006-03-02 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Frank Küster may or may not have written... > The Problem: > - Binaries in the tetex-bin package are unnecessarily linked against > libraries they do not use directly, but only indirectly through other > libraries [1]. [snip] That sounds like -Wl,--as-needed needs to be added t

Re: Bug#355030: ITP: ultimate-othello -- classic othello game with nice graphics

2006-03-02 Thread Steve Greenland
On 02-Mar-06, 15:01 (CST), Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The ultimate othello game with aqua-friendly graphics, full > cocoa interface and animations. And how is that relevant to a Debian GNU/Linux user? Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a

Re: buildd and experimental

2006-03-02 Thread Joe Smith
"MJ Ray" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message news:[EMAIL PROTECTED] MFT is broken by design. No-one should expect to remote control other people's mail clients. All one can do is ask and if you want to ask in the headers, fine, but don't go flaming when it gets lost in the noise. All of From

Re: Bug#355030: ITP: ultimate-othello -- classic othello game with nice graphics

2006-03-02 Thread Jari Aalto
| On 02-Mar-06, 15:01 (CST), Jari Aalto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | > The ultimate othello game with aqua-friendly graphics, full | > cocoa interface and animations. | | And how is that relevant to a Debian GNU/Linux user? Here is better description: graphical client-server 8x8 grid Othe

Re: the latest gnome

2006-03-02 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: > Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > In any case, since the latest gnome has also disabled the help system > > (or rather, the most up-to-date manual is the accessibility guide for > > 2.8 and the user's guide for 2.6), wher

Re: the latest gnome

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: >> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> >> > In any case, since the latest gnome has also disabled the help system >> > (or rather, the most up-to-date manual is the accessibility guide

Re: the latest gnome

2006-03-02 Thread Stephen Gran
This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: > Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > This one time, at band camp, Thomas Bushnell BSG said: > >> Thomas Bushnell BSG <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > >> > >> > In any case, since the latest gnome has also disabled the help system > >

Re: the latest gnome

2006-03-02 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Thomas Bushnell BSG [Thu, 02 Mar 2006 16:22:52 -0800]: > >> Ah, fortunately, the FreeBSD gnome maintainers believe in > >> documentation, so I found the answer there. > > Taken from http://www.gnome.org/learn/users-guide/latest/ : > > Permission is granted to copy, distribute and/or modify this

Re: Bug#353277: Please reject to rule on the ndiswrapper question

2006-03-02 Thread Anthony Towns
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 04:43:45PM -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Wed, 01 Mar 2006, Steve Langasek wrote: > Of course, I can be convinced that the constitution does give the ctte that > power, but so far, I am not. Otherwise, why didn't we pose to the ctte a > request for how the

Re: the latest gnome

2006-03-02 Thread Thomas Bushnell BSG
Stephen Gran <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Feel free. I don't use gnome and don't really care. I just couldn't > help being amused by a complaint about lack of documentation, under the > circumstances. Yeah, even if irrelevant to the circumstances. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTE

Re: the latest gnome

2006-03-02 Thread Kevin Mark
Hi TB, On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 01:07:03PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote: > > The latest gnome (2.12.2 according to Desktop>About GNOME) has, like > all previous "up"grades, disabled my preference for emacs-style > editing in forms, etc. It used to be in the Keyboard Preferences > dialog, but a

Re: Looking for a autotools/libtool expert: Unnecessarily linked libraries

2006-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 01:14:54PM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: > tags 353693 help > thanks > The Problem: > - Binaries in the tetex-bin package are unnecessarily linked against > libraries they do not use directly, but only indirectly through other > libraries [1]. > - The solution describe

Bug#355088: ITP: ttf-lao -- TrueType font for Lao language

2006-03-02 Thread Christian Perrier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Christian Perrier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: ttf-lao Version : 0.0.20060226 Upstream Author : Anousak Souphavanh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/laofoss/ * License : LGPL Descripti

Work-needing packages report for Mar 3, 2006

2006-03-02 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 235 (new: 9) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 92 (new: 6) Total number of packages requeste

Re: ITK debian packages

2006-03-02 Thread Steve M. Robbins
For the Debian-devel folks just tuning in: we're debating how to introduce a SOVERSION to the ITK libraries that lack it upstream. The current thread starts at http://lists.debian.org/debian-med/2006/02/msg00037.html Your input is welcomed. On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 03:23:47PM +1100, Gavin B

Re: ITK debian packages

2006-03-02 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 10:30:35PM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: > > > For reference, VTK 5 builds using > > > SET(VTK_MAJOR_VERSION 5) > > > SET(VTK_MINOR_VERSION 0) > > > SET(VTK_BUILD_VERSION 0) > > > SET(VTK_VERSION > > > "${VTK_MAJOR_VERSION}.${VTK_MINOR_VERSION}.${VTK_BUILD_VERS