Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Saturday 11 March 2006 03:27, Kevin Mark wrote: [DPL as mediator] The DPL already could do that. The DPL probably in the past *did* step in in some cases behind the scenese. There's no reason for the technical overhead of a mediator@ email alias - there's leader, and people who trust the D

Re: question for all candidates

2006-03-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:14:01AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 03:47:35PM +0200, Kalle Kivimaa wrote: > > Could these mails be required to have a valid GPG signature (either > > for a key in a public keyserver or a DD key)? This would eliminate the > > spam problem (almost

Re: Re: Re: Implicition declarations of functions and bugs

2006-03-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Hi, David Mosberger-Tang, le Fri 10 Mar 2006 19:47:10 -0700, a écrit : > Its purposes is not to "grep for warnings" but instead to > look for pairs of warnings that are *guaranteed* to cause crashes on > 64-bit machines. I did understand that. And my abs() example shows that gcc-4.0 doesn't comp

Re: Re: Re: Implicition declarations of functions and bugs

2006-03-10 Thread David Mosberger-Tang
Samuel, You're missing the point of the check-implicit-pointer-functions script. Its purposes is not to "grep for warnings" but instead to look for pairs of warnings that are *guaranteed* to cause crashes on 64-bit machines. gcc -Wall normally spits out tons of spurious warnings for 64-bit dirty

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Kevin Mark
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 09:43:22PM +0100, Adrian von Bidder wrote: > It's sad, yes, but I think it's just the way people work. Debian is a city > now, not a village anymore - lots of people know lots of other people not > very well or not at all. This probably includes people in important > fu

Re: Re: Re: Implicition declarations of functions and bugs

2006-03-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
Samuel Thibault, le Sat 11 Mar 2006 01:43:34 +0100, a écrit : > > $ gcc-3.3 -c -g -O -Wall t.c > > t.c: In function `foo': > > t.c:4: warning: implicit declaration of function `strdup' > > t.c:4: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast > > Because strdup() here gets an implicit >

Re: Re: Re: Implicition declarations of functions and bugs

2006-03-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
David Mosberger-Tang, le Fri 10 Mar 2006 17:06:22 -0700, a écrit : > I'm inclined to treat this as a gcc-4 bug. It is not. > $ cat t.c > char * > foo (char *str) > { > return strdup(str); > } > $ gcc-3.3 -c -g -O -Wall t.c > t.c: In function `foo': > t.c:4: warning: implicit declaration of func

Re: Re: Re: Implicition declarations of functions and bugs

2006-03-10 Thread David Mosberger-Tang
I'm inclined to treat this as a gcc-4 bug. To witness: $ cat t.c char * foo (char *str) { return strdup(str); } $ gcc-3.3 -c -g -O -Wall t.c t.c: In function `foo': t.c:4: warning: implicit declaration of function `strdup' t.c:4: warning: return makes pointer from integer without a cast gcc-4.0

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2006-03-10 kello 20:31 -0300, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh kirjoitti: > On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > pe, 2006-03-10 kello 21:49 +0100, Adrian von Bidder kirjoitti: > > > /me is trying to imagine the Debian project's members trying to agree on > > > an > > > enemy... > > > >

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > pe, 2006-03-10 kello 21:49 +0100, Adrian von Bidder kirjoitti: > > /me is trying to imagine the Debian project's members trying to agree on an > > enemy... > > Open RC bugs. Go to http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php, pick one, > hate it to death. Sle

Re: Re: Re: Implicition declarations of functions and bugs

2006-03-10 Thread Samuel Thibault
dann frazier, le Fri 10 Mar 2006 15:46:58 -0700, a écrit : > On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 00:30 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Ah, good. But your script misses some warnings: > > > > oss.c:83: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function > > 'strdu > > > > because o

Re: Box does not switch of on halt

2006-03-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Andreas Tille wrote: > Are there any more hints what might stop the computer from doing > cleeen halt / reboot than apm/acpi or sysvinit. I just tried Yes, check for changes in /sbin/halt. -- "One disk to rule them all, One disk to find them. One disk to bring them all

Re: ./configure in debian/rules

2006-03-10 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 09 Mar 2006, Peter Kourzanov wrote: > For most of the packages, what is so different in cross-compilation in > comparison to native? On my limited cross-compiling knowledge (and nearly zero experience), you have three classes of packages: 1. Those that just compile, link and ship -- thes

Re: Re: Re: Implicition declarations of functions and bugs

2006-03-10 Thread dann frazier
On Fri, 2006-03-10 at 00:30 +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Hi, > > Ah, good. But your script misses some warnings: > > oss.c:83: warning: incompatible implicit declaration of built-in function > 'strdu > > because of "incompatible" and "built-in". Please fix ;) Thanks Samuel, Can you poin

Bug#356289: ITP: listen -- a music management and playback for GNOME

2006-03-10 Thread Julien Valroff
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien Valroff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: listen Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Mehdi Abaakouk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://listengnome.free.fr/ * License : GPL Description : a music management and

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Lars Wirzenius
pe, 2006-03-10 kello 21:49 +0100, Adrian von Bidder kirjoitti: > /me is trying to imagine the Debian project's members trying to agree on an > enemy... Open RC bugs. Go to http://bts.turmzimmer.net/details.php, pick one, hate it to death. Sleep well. -- C is the *wrong* language for your applic

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 09 March 2006 18:41, Amaya wrote: > ... focus on attacking Ubuntu Ah, yes, we need an enemy so we can unite against it. Old-fashioned tactics, proved to work. -- vbi /me is trying to imagine the Debian project's members trying to agree on an enemy... -- One picture is worth 128K

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Adrian von Bidder
ObIntro: I add my thanks to all the others' On Thursday 09 March 2006 14:38, Gustavo Franco wrote: > What's wrong with us ? I just read some messages with a "no Martin, > can we revert it?", it seems that the default reply is "ok Martin, see > you, thanks.". > > It's volunteer work, he's free to d

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Gustavo Franco
On 3/10/06, Steve Langasek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 10:38:51AM -0300, Gustavo Franco wrote: > > What's wrong with us ? I just read some messages with a "no Martin, > > can we revert it?", it seems that the default reply is "ok Martin, see > > you, thanks.". > > > It's vo

Re: Bug#354831: ITP: bfc -- Brainfuck compiler

2006-03-10 Thread Adrian von Bidder
On Thursday 02 March 2006 04:46, Jaldhar H. Vyas wrote: > Package: libacme-brainfck-perl > Provides: libacme-brainfuck-perl Ah, and back to the time when some words where magic and caused burn marks on the paper around the ink. I never have and probably never will see why some people find 'f*ck'

Improving keyring maintenance (was Re: question for all candidates)

2006-03-10 Thread Nathanael Nerode
If you don't want to read the rant, skip to the bottom where I volunteer to help Anthony Towns wrote: >In the mail to the DPL I mentioned above, James outlined three fairly >significant technical changes that could be implemented to make the >job easier, and could be done by anyone, without r

Re: conffile purging and maintainer scripts

2006-03-10 Thread Roger Leigh
Thomas Hood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Roger Leigh wrote: >> Until last month, dpkg "forgot" about conffiles which were removed or >> moved on package upgrade. As a consequence, maintainers had to >> remember to purge these conffiles "by hand" in the package postrm >> script. > > I just want t

Re: conffile purging and maintainer scripts

2006-03-10 Thread Thomas Hood
Roger Leigh wrote: > Until last month, dpkg "forgot" about conffiles which were removed or > moved on package upgrade. As a consequence, maintainers had to > remember to purge these conffiles "by hand" in the package postrm > script. I just want to highlight the word "these" above in order to re

Re: debian developer

2006-03-10 Thread Isaac Clerencia
On Friday, 10 March 2006 15:41, Lars Roland wrote: > You could subscribe to debian-mentors and start crafting a package. > Even though Debian has a impressiv amount of packages there are still > some major ones left (mpich2, pvfs2, trac...). trac is in -- Isaac Clerencia at Warp Networks, http://

Re: debian developer

2006-03-10 Thread Mark Walter
Hi, > Jump in and start doing something for Debian. Whether that is finding > fixes for open bugs in our BTS that do not have patches yet, writing > documentation, translating stuff that needs to be translated, or > packaging software that needs to be packaged (or help package software > where the

Re: debian developer

2006-03-10 Thread Christoph Haas
Hi, Mark... On Friday 10 March 2006 15:27, Mark Walter wrote: > I want to step in to be a debian developer. Great to hear that. > While processing the new maintainer's guide I need to cross checked > boxes to apply. > > Two of them are not true for me at all and I can't apply as a developer > :-

conffile purging and maintainer scripts

2006-03-10 Thread Roger Leigh
Until last month, dpkg "forgot" about conffiles which were removed or moved on package upgrade. As a consequence, maintainers had to remember to purge these conffiles "by hand" in the package postrm script. 1) sarge -> etch upgrades - In order to handle upgrades from sarg

Re: debian developer

2006-03-10 Thread Bartosz Fenski aka fEnIo
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 03:27:23PM +0100, Mark Walter wrote: > Hi all, Hello. > I want to step in to be a debian developer. That's rather question for debian-mentors mailing list. > While processing the new maintainer's guide I need to cross checked > boxes to apply. > > Two of them are not

Re: debian developer

2006-03-10 Thread Lars Roland
On 3/10/06, Mark Walter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Here is my question: > > Can anybody help to me to satisfy the demand for the two point's as I'am > interested to be a debian developer ? Ahh the the cool factor of having a Debian email address (not that i have one). > > What can I do to arriv

Re: debian developer

2006-03-10 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 03:27:23PM +0100, Mark Walter wrote: > Hi all, > > I want to step in to be a debian developer. > > While processing the new maintainer's guide I need to cross checked > boxes to apply. > > Two of them are not true for me at all and I can't apply as a developer :-( > > H

debian developer

2006-03-10 Thread Mark Walter
Hi all, I want to step in to be a debian developer. While processing the new maintainer's guide I need to cross checked boxes to apply. Two of them are not true for me at all and I can't apply as a developer :-( Here are the two point's: *** If you intend to package software, do you have a De

Sitebar package is stalled

2006-03-10 Thread Josep Serrano
Hello list, Any of you know about the sitebar package? The upstream version has evolved and the debian package seems to be stalled since a year ago. I tried contacting the maintainer. Does anybody know him? Thanks, Josep SERRANO. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: question for all candidates

2006-03-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
[Ways to improve keyring maintenance] On Thu, 2006-03-09 at 23:25 +1000, Anthony Towns wrote: > The second was to get rt setup to, uh, track requests -- it's waiting > on the first thing (since rt sends auto-replies, and auto-replies to > spam is bad, mmmkay), and possibly also lacks a debian.org

Re: Question for all candidates: handle debian-admin more openly

2006-03-10 Thread Sven Luther
Let's move this to elsewhere than -vote for technical discussion, d-ppc and d-ppc64 are good places for this. On Fri, Mar 10, 2006 at 02:21:12AM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Mar 09, 2006 at 01:03:47PM +0100, Sven Luther wrote: > > > Are bruckner and voltaire overloaded or do they lack se

Re: Box does not switch of on halt

2006-03-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Andreas Tille wrote: Thanks fo the foreward but I'm afraid we might be on the wrong track. I downgraded sysvinit on one of the machines (by chance the apm based) to apt-cache policy sysvinit sysvinit: Installed: 2.86.ds1-4 Candidate: 2.86.ds1-12 Version table: 2.86

problem with ISA SB16 sound card

2006-03-10 Thread Serena Cantor
sarge's default kernel can't use my SB16! I have used my SB16 ever since kernel 2.0, 2.2, and 2.4 in woody. They all work. But with sarge's kernel 2.4, it can't work. When I modprobe sb, it complains no such device. Does sarge's kernel 2.4 support non-PNP ISA card? Why does sarge always try to u

Re: For those who care about stable updates

2006-03-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 09 mars 2006 à 23:51 +0100, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > Yeah yeah, the project sucks. Whatever. Say, Josselin, why aren't you a > DPL candidate? Given the list of known candidates, I considered being a candidate myself, just like Bill, but I don't have the time to assume such a position.