Le dimanche 04 juin 2006 à 22:48 +0200, Wouter Verhelst a écrit :
Is the popular press ever right on Debian-related matters? No. Should
we care? No.
Why shouldn't we care? Debian suffers from its image and this has been a
known problem for years, and we shouldn't care?
--
.''`.
Le lundi 05 juin 2006 à 06:23 +0100, Carlos Correia a écrit :
How about stopping the discussions about who is a developer or not, who
has the right to discuss or not, and sticking to the facts?
What a big troll you are...
- From all your posts, there is only one thing we got to know:
Adeodato =?utf-8?B?U2ltw7M=?= [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hi all,
for those who don't know, nmudiff is a small script by Steinar H.
Gunderson that, when invoked in the source tree of a NMU, will create a
diff with respect the previous version, and send it to the BTS. I've
found it quite
Anthony DeRobertis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Anthony DeRobertis wrote:
Errr... apt-get says:
Failed to fetch
http://security.debian.org/dists/etch/updates/Release Unable to
find expected entry main/binary-amd64/Packages in Meta-index file
(malformed Release file?)
And, indeed,
On 6/4/06, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sunday 04 June 2006 02:23, Andrew Donnellan wrote:
On 6/4/06, Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au wrote:
For those playing along at home, Mike isn't a Debian developer, doesn't
maintain any packages, and isn't a new-maintainer applicant. He
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
By whom? A bunch of people with too much time on their hands. Is there
an actual lawyer involved? I don't think so.
This is a crazy stupid argument. By this argument, Debian should distribute
absolutely
anything, no matter what the license, unless a lawyer gets
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 11:02:59PM +0200, Javier Fern?ndez-Sanguino Pe?a wrote:
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 04:52:22PM +0200, Wouter Verhelst wrote:
- something it already had (admins who really wanted Sun's Java could
always go to java.sun.com and install it themselves or use java-package)
Steve Langasek writes:
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 09:17:30PM +0200, Martin Michlmayr wrote:
I found one serious bug in 4.1.1 though (#370308) which needs to be
fixed before 4.1 can be the default (since it produces a bogus error
on some Perl headers which get included by many packages).
Martin Michlmayr writes:
* Andreas Barth [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006-06-04 21:01]:
As we are below the 20 packages count if bug #366820 is correct (and
Martin just confirmed the number), it is ok to do the switch now.
Martin, can you please also mark these bugs as serious now (as
they're
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 06:13:27AM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote:
As for the relevance of Sun position on Debian developers, there simply
is none.
The issue at question is whether Sun has given adequate permission for
Debian to include java in non-free -- Sun's position on that isn't just
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 12:13:16PM +0200, Michael Meskes wrote:
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 09:57:40AM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
position. Debian's position, as consistently expressed by ftpmaster,
on this list, and in the press, is that the license is acceptable for
non-free, and that is
#include hallo.h
* Andrew Donnellan [Mon, Jun 05 2006, 07:13:29AM]:
No. The conclusion is that sane Debian developers do recognize the
problem and prepare an effective solution for it in silence. In
the meantime wanna-be developers are allowed to troll on debian-devel
list. They should just
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Matthieu Vogelweith [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: msntp
Version : 1.6
Upstream Author : University of Cambridge, N.M. Maclaren
* URL : http://www.hpcf.cam.ac.uk/export/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang: C
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 01:11:15AM +0200, martin f krafft wrote:
also sprach Junichi Uekawa [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.05.0036 +0200]:
I don't think there is much harm in opening a new NMU bug.
Isn't an NMU by definition bound to an existing bug? Or at least
should be? So then I'd say that
also sprach Bill Allombert [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2006.06.05.1446 +0200]:
So, if the NMU is linked to a bug, use it, else create a fresh bug.
exactly. Ideally, write a bug before you start preparing the NMU,
and then try to fix it before the bug confirmation gets in. :)
--
Please do not send
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:43:42PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
To a degree, yes. In this particular case, ftpmaster are the maintainers
of the archive, and their statements on what's suitable for the archive
are authoritative by definition -- that's precisely what their area of
authority is.
Disclaimer: I am not a DD, nor in the n-m queue. I'm also
re-crossposting to debian-devel, because I don't think this discussion
could usefully be had on debian-legal -- and it's not a licensing issue
anyway.
Anthony Towns aj@azure.humbug.org.au writes:
I don't believe that saying someone
Jeremy Hankins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm not sure I understand this part, though. Do you think that folks
like myself, who are not DD's, should not participate in the discussions
on d-l? Do you think that those of us who are not DD's should put a
disclaimer (IANADD) on every message to
* martin f krafft [Mon, 05 Jun 2006 15:58:47 +0200]:
exactly. Ideally, write a bug before you start preparing the NMU,
and then try to fix it before the bug confirmation gets in. :)
The real kick is to put dak and the BTS to compete. You `nmudiff`, and
right afterwards you `dput`. Then you
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: gregor herrmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: libdata-random-perl
Version : 0.05
Upstream Author : Adekunle Olonoh, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL : http://search.cpan.org/~adeo/Data-Random-0.05/Random.pm
* License : Same as
George Danchev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I do not believe that it is feasible/useful/possible to clarify every single
statement whether stated by an official DD ... It is addressee job to check
that out if they are interested in. If the addressee is not capable to check
official
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 07:44:54PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 06:13:27AM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote:
As for the relevance of Sun position on Debian developers, there simply
is none.
The issue at question is whether Sun has given adequate permission for
Debian to
hi
I just a thought search debian/ include package.
I'd try the idea out, use gonzui.
http://debian-src.devel.jp
It's beta level service.
This system is updated and stopped occasionally without any prior notice.
--
Yasuo Eto yasuo at etou.org
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Le lundi 05 juin 2006 à 12:54 +0200, Eduard Bloch a écrit :
Yes. Should 100 people appear now and say the same things again, and
again, and again? WE GOT IT. WE DO NOT NEED TO READ IT AGAIN.
Apparently some people haven't received it, if they need to dismiss the
argument based on the fact it
Question: Is SpamAssassin or greylisting used on lists.debian.org?
Thanks,
Tyler
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On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 10:17:38AM -0700, Tyler MacDonald wrote:
Question: Is SpamAssassin or greylisting used on lists.debian.org?
Your e-mail should probably be directed to the listmasters.
The answer is: Yes, SA and other techniques are used; a _lot_ of spam is
blocked (many days, the volume
* Tyler MacDonald [Mon, 05 Jun 2006 10:17:38 -0700]:
Question: Is SpamAssassin or greylisting used on lists.debian.org?
SpamAssassin is used, yes (you could know by the headers, btw).
However, check the amount of mails from lists.debian.org that my local
crm114 detected as spam:
Jun 01: 6
On Monday 05 June 2006 18:18, Eto Yasuo wrote:
hi
I just a thought search debian/ include package.
I'd try the idea out, use gonzui.
http://debian-src.devel.jp
Nice idea.
What exactly is included in the search? All source packages? All binary
source packages? Debian mailing list
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Adrian Neumaier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Package name: kio-sysinfo
Version : 10.1
Upstream Author : Lukas Tinkl [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* URL :
http://ftp.opensuse.org/pub/opensuse/distribution/SL-OSS-factory/inst-source/suse/src/
*
On Sun, Jun 04, 2006 at 11:42:30PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote:
Daniel Kobras wrote:
Method B
Package: oldpkg
Depends: newpkg
Files:
/usr/share/doc/oldpkg - /usr/share/doc/newpkg
(and nothing else)
Does not this hit another bug in dpkg ?
It seems that empty
* Jeremy Hankins [Mon, 05 Jun 2006 09:31:19 -0400]:
My opinion, for what it's worth, is that most DD's, despite occasionally
having strong opinions on licensing (*This* license is _free_, @#$^!)
are totally uninterested in taking the time to sort through the
nitpicking arguments about
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 05:33:14PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
The problem from my point of view is that it builds in my normal
environment (with the Sun Java jre/jdk installed) but not in a
pbuilder chroot (because the Sun Java packages require a Yes, I
agree with this licence
Processing commands for [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
reassign 368546 sawfish
Bug#368546: general: remarkable slow-down of whole system after 4-6 hours
Bug reassigned from package `general' to `sawfish'.
severity 368546 serious
Bug#368546: general: remarkable slow-down of whole system after 4-6 hours
On 2/18/06, Josh Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 7/13/05, Andrew Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 2005-07-13 at 14:44 +0100, Andrew Porter wrote:
ATT have released the source to ksh93 under the CPL (Common Public
Licence)
Are there any plans to create a debian package ?
Bah -
On 2/28/06, Kevin B. McCarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Josh Hurst wrote:
On 2/20/06, Andrew Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sat, 2006-02-18 at 14:19 +0100, Josh Hurst wrote:
Does the Debian ksh93 package include libast and libshell?
No -
[snip]
Seems these libraries are statically
I just a thought search debian/ include package.
I'd try the idea out, use gonzui.
http://debian-src.devel.jp
Nice idea.
What exactly is included in the search? All source packages? All binary
source packages?
What's included in debian/ directory of source package.
regards,
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
Dear developers,
I am looking for co-maintainers for the tikiwiki package. This is a
rather complex web application written in PHP, and I feel that I don't
have enough time to maintain it on my own.
The first packaged version (1.9.2) is currently in experimental.
Matthew Garrett [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Starting with What is key for Debian makes it sound like a policy
statement on behalf of Debian, and Just fix the license could then
be interpreted as a demand from Debian that Sun alter the license. In
that context, it seems reasonable to point out
Adeodato Simó [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
So let's make an analogy. Imagine one day, the bulk of Debian Developers
stop being interested in maintaining GNOME (or KDE, if you wish). The
packages begin to rot, become obsolete, uninstallable, etc. Then, a group
of non-developers who care about
retitle 316195 O: cutter -- disconnect routed IP connections
severity 232058 grave
thanks
I'm not using this package, and it reportedly does not work with 2.6
kernels. It's been in RFA state for almost a year, with no takers.
(One NM contacted me, but never prepared a fixed package for
Hello Folks,
I did the upload of our new LTSP version. Of course, I'm very happy
with it! It does a great job and will have a lot of new bugs since we
redid a lot of code.
Personally, I would like to thank firstly to Vagrant (vagrantc) who
spent a lot of time working with me at Debcamp and to
Otavio Salvador wrote:
Hello Folks,
I did the upload of our new LTSP version. Of course, I'm very happy
with it! It does a great job and will have a lot of new bugs since we
redid a lot of code.
Personally, I would like to thank firstly to Vagrant (vagrantc) who
spent a lot of time
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 08:04:56PM -0400, Jeremy Hankins wrote:
I'm afraid I don't understand the fear here. What would it mean for d-l
to become gnome.alioth.debian.org in your example?
Non-developers, no matter how much they love Free Software and Debian,
don't get to decide on the policies
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Otavio Salvador wrote:
Hello Folks,
I did the upload of our new LTSP version. Of course, I'm very happy
with it! It does a great job and will have a lot of new bugs since we
redid a lot of code.
Personally, I would like to thank firstly to
Otavio Salvador wrote:
On ltsp-utils? Would be better if you could join our effort to make
LTSP good enough to all vendors. We're trying to make flexible enough
that will be trivial to share code between Debian, Ubuntu and any
other vendor that start to use our code.
Also, there's some
David Nusinow wrote:
On Mon, Jun 05, 2006 at 08:04:56PM -0400, Jeremy Hankins wrote:
I'm afraid I don't understand the fear here. What would it mean for d-l
to become gnome.alioth.debian.org in your example?
Non-developers, no matter how much they love Free Software and Debian,
don't get
Roberto C. Sanchez [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Also, there's some tools from ltsp-utils that might be good to have in
but then would be good if you join pkg-ltsp project and coordenate
with the rest of people what to get in.
See you there ;-)
OK. If that is the case, please feel free to
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