Re: so many applications wake up so often

2006-09-08 Thread John Goerzen
On Sat, Sep 09, 2006 at 01:52:12PM +1200, Martin Langhoff wrote: > On 9/9/06, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >I have been using noatime for quite awhile now. mount(8) does not > >mention nodiratime anywhere, and I have never used it. > > Same here. But googling for nodiratime shows it'

Re: so many applications wake up so often

2006-09-08 Thread Martin Langhoff
On 9/9/06, John Goerzen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I have been using noatime for quite awhile now. mount(8) does not mention nodiratime anywhere, and I have never used it. Same here. But googling for nodiratime shows it's definitely in the kernel, and in wide use. Learned something today... c

Re: Upgrade problems for sysvinit 2.86.ds1-16 -> 2.86.ds1-18

2006-09-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Petter Reinholdtsen] > A quick way out is to reinstall all the packages with scripts in > /etc/init.d/. This way proved to be too quick, trying to reinstall removed but not purged packages with init.d scripts left behind in /etc/init.d/. I recommend using something like this instead, to only rei

Is `command -v' accepted for maintainer scripts?

2006-09-08 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
Hi, I've discovered that my adopted packages dbskkd-cdb and skksearch use `command -v'. Is `command -v' accepted for `/bin/sh' maintainer scripts? AFAIK, `command -v' is defined by POSIX UPE (user portability extension), "Debian Policy" section 10.4 says `/bin/sh' should only use POSIX features,

Re: Upgrade problems for sysvinit 2.86.ds1-16 -> 2.86.ds1-18

2006-09-08 Thread Bastian Venthur
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Those with packages being broken from this bug can fix it by using > 'apt-get --reinstall install package' on the affected packages. A > quick way out is to reinstall all the packages with scripts in > /etc/init.d/. > > for p in `dpkg -S /etc/init.d/*|cut -d: -f1|so

Re: New at Debian Devel

2006-09-08 Thread Nacho Barrientos Arias
Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 14:58:10 -0300 "Daniel Morales" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hello Daniel! > Hello everyone. I'm Daniel from Uruguay, new at the debian-devel mail list. > I'm a Debian user form a few years ago.. and i verry like this operating > sistem. I been used it in the work and in home

Re: so many applications wake up so often

2006-09-08 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:17:00PM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: > Hi, > > On Friday 08 September 2006 19:36, John Goerzen wrote: > > I have no idea what Gnome, KDE, etc. are doing to my disk -- all I know > > is that they seem to have business with it all the time, and it makes it > > very difficul

Re: so many applications wake up so often

2006-09-08 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Friday 08 September 2006 19:36, John Goerzen wrote: > I have no idea what Gnome, KDE, etc. are doing to my disk -- all I know > is that they seem to have business with it all the time, and it makes it > very difficult for the disk to spin down. do you mount with "noatime" und "nodiratime"?

Bug#386606: ITP: python-xattr -- xattr is a Python wrapper for extended filesystem attributes

2006-09-08 Thread Guido Guenther
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guido Guenther <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: python-xattr Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Bob Ippolito <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://svn.red-bean.com/bob/xattr/releases/xattr-0.2/ * License : MIT/PSF Programmi

Re: Extended partition creation policy ?

2006-09-08 Thread Peter Samuelson
[David Balazic] > I noticed, that when the debian installer is instructed to create two > partitions, whose joint size is less than the size of the disk, then > it creates one primary partition and one logical partition inside an > extended partition. cfdisk does the same thing - however, it also

Upgrade problems for sysvinit 2.86.ds1-16 -> 2.86.ds1-18

2006-09-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
In version 2.86.ds1-16 of the sysv-rc package released 2006-09-06, the update-rc.d script was broken. When used to to update symlinks it would remove all symlinks for a init.d script if such symlinks existed, and add them if they were missing. This broke all packages being upgraded after the new

Re: New at Debian Devel

2006-09-08 Thread Andre Luis Lopes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hello Daniel, Daniel Morales wrote: > Hello everyone. I'm Daniel from Uruguay, new at the debian-devel mail > list. I'm a Debian user form a few years ago.. and i verry like this > operating sistem. I been used it in the work and in home and allways >

New at Debian Devel

2006-09-08 Thread Daniel Morales
Hello everyone. I'm Daniel from Uruguay, new at the debian-devel mail list. I'm a Debian user form a few years ago.. and i verry like this operating sistem. I been used it in the work and in home and allways without big problems.   ;) Now, if i can contribute with something at the dev level.. im at

Orphaned wmakerconf, wmakerconf-data

2006-09-08 Thread Kevin B. McCarty
Hi all, Since I no longer really use Window Maker much, I am orphaning the wmakerconf and wmakerconf-data packages (cf. the CC'ed bugs). I've just emailed the BTS to retitle those bugs from RFA to O, and uploaded new packages with the maintainer set to Debian QA Group. Note that each of these is

Re: so many applications wake up so often

2006-09-08 Thread John Goerzen
On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 08:17:09PM +0800, Dan Jacobson wrote: One other thing here -- and I would argue perhaps even more important -- is hard disk access. I've spent quite some time tuning that, and with traditional services (cron, MTAs, syslog, etc.) it's a bit time-consuming but possible. I h

make dictionary packages support stardict

2006-09-08 Thread Ying-Chun Liu (PaulLiu)
Dear dictionary maintainers and other developers, Stardict is a dictionary reader, it provides 'scan selection word' function which gives the translations in a pop-up window immediately. Because it needs pop-up a search result immediately, the DICT protocol cannot be satisfied. So it uses its own

so many applications wake up so often

2006-09-08 Thread Dan Jacobson
Using strace, I discovered many programs are constantly busy these days. No wonder one can't seem to save power. There ought to be a law... = Subject: Re: silent PC vs. emacs Newsgroup: gmane.emacs.pretest.bugs From: Dan Nicolaescu <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ...The OLPC/Fedora people are working on e

Bug#386556: ITP: libnet-lite-ftp-perl -- Perl FTP library with support for TLS

2006-09-08 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alexis Sukrieh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: libnet-lite-ftp-perl Version : 0.47 Upstream Author : Dariush Pietrzak <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~eyck/Net-Lite-FTP-0.47/lib/Net/Lite/FTP.pm * License

Re: claiming bugs, BTS delay, planning BSPs

2006-09-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Kevin Mark <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.09.08.1554 +0200]: > wiki pages take seconds to update or check. They also create locking problems. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the list! .''`. martin f. krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> : :' : proud Debian developer,

Re: claiming bugs, BTS delay, planning BSPs

2006-09-08 Thread Kevin Mark
On Sun, Sep 03, 2006 at 12:16:05PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sat, 02 Sep 2006, martin f krafft wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > we're in the middle of the BSPMarathon[0]. Among the things new this > > year (as opposed to the sarge BSPs) are usertags for claiming bugs > > [1]. Unfortunately, the

Re: claiming bugs, BTS delay, planning BSPs

2006-09-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Pierre Habouzit <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.09.08.1527 +0200]: > Only a web form that instantaneously report that I claim the bug would > have any chance to be usefull. Using the BTS (in its current reactivity > and implementation at least) for interactive tasks is IMHO a bad idea. > A

Re: claiming bugs, BTS delay, planning BSPs

2006-09-08 Thread Pierre Habouzit
Le ven 8 septembre 2006 14:40, martin f krafft a écrit : > also sprach Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.09.08.1233 +0200]: > > I don't think we need more than one tag per claim. > > So how to prevent deadlocks? With many people bug squashing at the > same time, we cannot rely on chaos anymo

Re: claiming bugs, BTS delay, planning BSPs

2006-09-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Christoph Berg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.09.08.1233 +0200]: > I don't think we need more than one tag per claim. So how to prevent deadlocks? With many people bug squashing at the same time, we cannot rely on chaos anymore. -- Please do not send copies of list mail to me; I read the

Re: The debian boot dependency graph image

2006-09-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Wouter Verhelst] > My point being that you don't want to list them as hard dependencies > unless you really need udev and can't work with static devices for > some other reason. I suspect very few packages should depend on udev. Most packages depend on local and remote file systems being mounte

Re: claiming bugs, BTS delay, planning BSPs

2006-09-08 Thread Christoph Berg
Re: martin f krafft 2006-09-08 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Please see #385957, and the discussion between Julian and myself. > > Basically, we thought about two solutions, and I came up with > a third one last night. > > 1. Julian proposes to simply to encode the information about a BSP > into t

Work-needing packages report for Sep 8, 2006

2006-09-08 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 310 (new: 3) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 105 (new: 2) Total number of packages request

Re: Linking a static library with -fPIC for flex

2006-09-08 Thread Martijn van Oosterhout
On 9/5/06, Manoj Srivastava <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I was initially going to just provide libfl.a with position independent code, which would have prevented the FTBS breakage for scanner containing shared libraries, at the expense of a register lost for binaries that were otherwise

Re: The debian boot dependency graph image

2006-09-08 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 05:09:49PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Sep 07, Wouter Verhelst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 03:11:02PM +0200, Marco d'Itri wrote: > > > Now, try thinking about how many of the blocks which are not listed > > > as depending on udev actually do

Re: claiming bugs, BTS delay, planning BSPs

2006-09-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach martin f krafft <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [2006.09.02.1518 +0200]: > Independently, I was considering that it would make a lot of sense > for each attendant to prepare for the BSP, possibly by > pre-selecting bugs to work on and ideally getting in touch with > the maintainer of upstream as ne

Re: The debian boot dependency graph image

2006-09-08 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Francesco Pedrini] > I've tried, but it doesn't work: You need to use insserv version 1.08.0-3 or later. Sorry for forgetting to mention that. > [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo /usr/share/insserv/check-initd-order -g -o >>lsb-graph.dot There is no need to run it as root, I believe. It only need t

Re: Linking a static library with -fPIC for flex

2006-09-08 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Sep 07, 2006 at 02:45:50PM -0500, Bill Allombert wrote: > So if you are to write a library that include a flex scanner, all you > have to do is to prvide your own yywrap() function, even if it is > just return 1; and you won't need to link with libfl.a. Why can't flex emit a default yywra