Re: Bug#418552: ITP: umit -- nmap frontend, developed in Python and GTK

2007-04-12 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:02:27AM +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > Is it interesting for the user/sysadm that the frontend is developed in > > Python? I would remote that (while I will keep the reference to GTK) and > > perhaps adding something about the intended targets: both advanced users > >

Re: [RFH] CMake and /usr/lib64/

2007-04-12 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 08:49:47 +0200 Bastian Venthur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Does anybody know how to tell CMake not to use /usr/lib64 but /usr/lib > when building a package on amd64? There are needed some special steps? I recently switched Gammu package to CMake and it automatically insta

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 11 avril 2007 à 23:20 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > Tasksel has no devel task. > > There are no development environments for example: C/gtk, C#/GTK, > Java/Gtk, python/gtk pre-defined. apt-get install gnome-devel -- .''`. : :' : We are debian.org. Lower your prices, surrender

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 06:23:32PM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > Qua, 2007-04-11 às 17:33 +0200, Robert Millan escreveu: > > > I don't know what the critical mass of Linux users is that generates > > > interest for Linux among software vendors. We seem to be far from > > > it. > > > > Yes, but Mic

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 10:55:36PM +0200, Michael Banck wrote: > On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 02:13:07PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > > I don't think it needs win64-only games. > > Please remember that this is debian-devel and not some general > discussion list. This thread has been moved from debi

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 02:13:07PM -0400, Matthias Julius wrote: > > I don't think it needs win64-only games. It just needs games that run > with a 10% higher frame rate on win64 to create demand. Or on > Linux-amd64. Not even that. The hype factor is enough to create demand, but this kind of d

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:12:00PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > Do we have plans for lenny to enable the use of bzip2 instead of gzip > for the upstream orig.tar source tarballs? Does dpkg/apt support this > already or has this already been thought about? > > This would reduce our archive size by

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Miriam Ruiz
According to the benchmarks in http://www.linuks.mine.nu/sizematters/ , the size of the archive would be nearly 30% smaller, but the decompression would be 5 times slower, meaning that it would take 500% the time it takes now to uncompress the archives. Compression time would be 10 times more (100

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On to, 2007-04-12 at 10:12 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:12:00PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > > This would reduce our archive size by some 20% if all packages moved to > > bzip2. > > Why not lzma? It reduces size even more and doesn't suffer from the "all our > code bel

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:57:09AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > I don't think "beginner" and "developer" belong in the same sentence. Yes they do. I met people who develop commercial software but who are completely ignorant about any system administration tasks. They're not the people who use co

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Reinhard Tartler
Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> i don't mean all the debug and etc stuff... But the a beginner >> environment for people to start to use and learn about linux >> development. > > I don't think "beginner" and "developer" belong in the same sentence. At least for debian, this seems to

The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Looking at the submission numbers from http://popcon.debian.org/>, I am happy to report that the number of Etch installations is increasing fast. Here are the number of submissions collected by popularity-contest, with the increment. It is easy to see when Etch was released. date submiss

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread greenhybrid
Petter Reinholdtsen schrieb: Looking at the submission numbers from http://popcon.debian.org/>, I am happy to report that the number of Etch installations is increasing fast. Here are the number of submissions collected by popularity-contest, with the increment. It is easy to see when Etch was

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Joey Hess
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Looking at the submission numbers from > http://popcon.debian.org/>, I am happy to report that the number > of Etch installations is increasing fast. Here are the number of > submissions collected by popularity-contest, with the increment. It > is easy to see when Etc

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
* 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote: > I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls > depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the > results. Isn't this a violation of user's privacy? If the user hitted `No', this really means that he doesn't want to ca

Looking for Co-Maintainers for MySQL

2007-04-12 Thread Christian Hammers
Hello As I had much too few time for testing and improving the MySQL packages during the last month and will be away for the whole May, I need some Co-Maintainer. Preferably someone who is motivated enough to maybe somewhen take over the whole package as I'm getting a bit bored on it after 8 year

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > * 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote: > > I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls > > depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the > > results. > > Isn't this a violation of user's privacy? If th

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Fabio Tranchitella
* 2007-04-12 12:09, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > As long as we don't use that to collect sensitive information, it would be > ok IMO. (Of course, a preseed question could avoid it completely too) I think Google Earth for Linux does the same, and IIRC the general agreement in the free software communit

Re: Debian Buzz and Rex binary packages

2007-04-12 Thread Aurélien GÉRÔME
Hi Enrico, On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:01:10PM +0200, Cherubini Enrico wrote: > Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 04:49:21PM -0400, Lennart Sorensen wrote: > >> Hmm, I was under the impression that before 2.0, debian wasn't released >> as binaries yet, only source packages and the source code to the >> utilitie

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Azazel
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Hi, > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > > * 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote: > > > I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls > > > depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count > the > > > results. > > > > Isn't

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Simon Josefsson
Fabio Tranchitella <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > * 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote: >> I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls >> depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the >> results. > > Isn't this a violation of user's privacy? If the user h

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On to, 2007-04-12 at 12:16 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > * 2007-04-12 12:09, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > As long as we don't use that to collect sensitive information, it would be > > ok IMO. (Of course, a preseed question could avoid it completely too) > > I think Google Earth for Linux does

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 05:29 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls > depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the > results. Since there are some potential drawbacks to this functionality, what concrete gain would the pro

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 10:39:32 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > I may be wrong, I don't know, but in my opinion a ping to call back home > > even if the user said `No' is a evil behaviour and Debian should avoid it. > I agree. If the user says "no", we should do nothing. Full ack. > [ ] N

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Jeroen van Wolffelaar
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:13:55PM +0200, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 05:29 -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > > I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls > > depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the > > results. > > Since there are som

Bug#418858: ITP: xmds-doc -- documentation for the eXtensible Multi-Dimensional Simulator

2007-04-12 Thread Rafael Laboissiere
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Rafael Laboissiere <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: xmds-doc Version : 0~svn.1321 Upstream Author : P.T. Cochrane, G. Collecutt, P.D. Drummond, and J.J. Hope * URL : http://xmds.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Progra

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Alexis Sukrieh
Lars Wirzenius wrote: I may be wrong, I don't know, but in my opinion a ping to call back home even if the user said `No' is a evil behaviour and Debian should avoid it. I agree. If the user says "no", we should do nothing. Indeed, I also think that "No" here means "I don't want to send any k

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Sebastian Mach] > Is that only for stable? Me for example uses a february testing, and > I might not be alone These numbers are for everyone, including oldstable, stable, testing and unstable. Friendly, -- Petter Reinholdtsen -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Lars Wirzenius] > However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the > following might be an acceptable compromise: > > Would you like to participate in the Debian package popularity > contest meter? Blah blah blah. You may also choose to only > report onc

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 09:53 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > Le mercredi 11 avril 2007 à 23:20 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > > Tasksel has no devel task. > > > > There are no development environments for example: C/gtk, C#/GTK, > > Java/Gtk, python/gtk pre-defined. > > apt-get install gnome-devel

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 11:03 +0200, Reinhard Tartler escreveu: > Santiago Vila <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > >> i don't mean all the debug and etc stuff... But the a beginner > >> environment for people to start to use and learn about linux > >> development. > > > > I don't think "beginner" and "dev

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 10:58 +0200, Gabor Gombas escreveu: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:57:09AM +0200, Santiago Vila wrote: > > > I don't think "beginner" and "developer" belong in the same sentence. > > Yes they do. I met people who develop commercial software but who are > completely ignorant about

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira
2007/4/12, Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: Qui, 2007-04-12 às 09:53 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > Le mercredi 11 avril 2007 à 23:20 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > > Tasksel has no devel task. > > > > There are no development environments for example: C/gtk, C#/GTK, > > Java/Gtk, python/gtk

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > Actually, I've considered adding hardware reporting to popcon, using a > separate question (or more options, not sure which), and hardware > reports do not need to be sent as often as package usage. Such > report-once setting should report the outp

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le jeudi 12 avril 2007 à 14:25 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > gnome-devel has what? anjuta, devhelp, glade and ... ... and gnome-core-devel. > i see for example > that it has no -dev dependency ... so ... how are people going to > compile stuff against gnome/gtk/linux libraries? They are only > r

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 09:37 -0300, André Luiz Rodrigues Ferreira escreveu: > > 2007/4/12, Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Qui, 2007-04-12 às 09:53 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > > Le mercredi 11 avril 2007 à 23:20 +0100, Luis Matos a > écrit : > > > Tasksel has

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 14:39 +0200, Josselin Mouette escreveu: > Le jeudi 12 avril 2007 à 14:25 +0100, Luis Matos a écrit : > > gnome-devel has what? anjuta, devhelp, glade and ... > > ... and gnome-core-devel. you killed me ... true, it has the -dev packages. do you agree with the previous post ab

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Matthias Julius
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > [Sebastian Mach] >> Is that only for stable? Me for example uses a february testing, and >> I might not be alone > > These numbers are for everyone, including oldstable, stable, testing > and unstable. And what is most interesting about them i

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Johannes Wiedersich
Lars Wirzenius wrote: > However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the > following might be an acceptable compromise: > > Would you like to participate in the Debian package popularity > contest meter? Blah blah blah. You may also choose to only > repor

Mozilla renames: is Debian the only one?

2007-04-12 Thread Pierre THIERRY
I was wondering, as I did not find any clear info on the subject by Googling: is Debian the only distro that renamed the Mozilla packages? If not, which ones? Curiously, Pierre -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] OpenPGP 0xD9D50D8A signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Henrique de Moraes Holschuh] > dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial > numbers. Yes. Perhaps we only want to collect a subset of that information, or at least warn the admin about the issues. I believe The ubuntu hardware database collect that kind of informati

Re: Mozilla renames: is Debian the only one?

2007-04-12 Thread Chris Lamb
Pierre THIERRY wrote: > If not, which ones? + http://www.gnewsense.org/ ? -- Chris Lamb, Cambridgeshire, UK GPG: 0x634F9A20 signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: Mozilla renames: is Debian the only one?

2007-04-12 Thread Lawrence Williams
On April 12, 2007 11:34:00 am Chris Lamb wrote: > Pierre THIERRY wrote: > > If not, which ones? > > + http://www.gnewsense.org/ ? Gentoo has done renames of Mozilla products such as Firefox too. - Lawrence -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble?

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Thursday 12 April 2007 11:03, Reinhard Tartler wrote: > Since this inquiry is valid however, it seems to me that it would make > sense the think about some CDD specialised for developers. I recently heard about this "Debian sid" thingy, maybe you give it a try? Seriously, I dont understan

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread gregor herrmann
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:22:37 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial > > numbers. > Yes. > Perhaps we only want to collect a subset of that information, or at > least warn the admin about the issues. I'd suggest to show the per

Re: Mozilla renames: is Debian the only one?

2007-04-12 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2007-04-12, Lawrence Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On April 12, 2007 11:34:00 am Chris Lamb wrote: >> Pierre THIERRY wrote: >> > If not, which ones? >> >> + http://www.gnewsense.org/ ? > > Gentoo has done renames of Mozilla products such as Firefox too. I asked one of my local gentoo d

Re: Bug#418552: ITP: umit -- nmap frontend, developed in Python and GTK

2007-04-12 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 09:02:56 +0200 Stefano Zacchiroli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The reference to GTK is useless, too. > > We have tags for that sort of things. > > I disagree. Tags can express a lot more of information of what does fit > a *short* description. One has to make a choice about w

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Miriam Ruiz may or may not have written... [snip] > Compression time would be 10 times more (1000% the time it takes now). No; either that's 1100%, or you mean 10 times as much. [snip] -- | Darren Salt| linux or ds at | nr. Ashington, | Toon | RISC OS, Linux | you

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 14:28:50 +0100 Luis Matos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Since this inquiry is valid however, it seems to me that it would make > > sense the think about some CDD specialised for developers. > > This would be very nice ... maybe some livecd's? ( it does not need > necessarilly

Re: debian-devel-digest Digest V2007 #198

2007-04-12 Thread Howard Young
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: debian-devel-digest Digest Volume 2007 : Issue 198 Today's Topics: Draft spec for new dpkg "triggers" f [ Ian Jackson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ] Some fairly usel

Re: Mozilla renames: is Debian the only one?

2007-04-12 Thread Lawrence Williams
On April 12, 2007 01:10:53 pm Sune Vuorela wrote: > On 2007-04-12, Lawrence Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On April 12, 2007 11:34:00 am Chris Lamb wrote: > >> Pierre THIERRY wrote: > >> > If not, which ones? > >> > >> + http://www.gnewsense.org/ ? > > > > Gentoo has done renames of Mozil

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Andreas Metzler
Don Armstrong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007, Drew Parsons wrote: >> Do we have plans for lenny to enable the use of bzip2 instead of gzip >> for the upstream orig.tar source tarballs? Does dpkg/apt support this >> already or has this already been thought about? [...] > A more co

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Pierre THIERRY
Scribit Andrea Bolognani dies 12/04/2007 hora 18:01: > I think a live CD aimed at developers would be quite useless. But > feel free to correct me. The Université Jussieu (Paris) found it useful. They distribute a live CD based on Knoppix to the students, called Juppix: http://www.pps.jussieu.fr

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Tshepang Lekhonkhobe
On 4/12/07, Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Looking at the submission numbers from http://popcon.debian.org/>, I am happy to report that the number of Etch installations is increasing fast. Here are the number of submissions collected by popularity-contest, with the increment. I

Re: Mozilla renames: is Debian the only one?

2007-04-12 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 4/12/07, Sune Vuorela <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: On 2007-04-12, Lawrence Williams <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Gentoo has done renames of Mozilla products such as Firefox too. I asked one of my local gentoo devs - and he says "no - it is not rebranded/renamed" It's a USE flag called "mozbran

Re: Debian Buzz and Rex binary packages

2007-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Wed, Apr 11, 2007 at 11:01:10PM +0200, Cherubini Enrico wrote: > I have the 1995 InfoMagic 5 cd set, and it contains Debian 1.0 with .deb > packages and of course install floppy images :) > > Maybe I'll try it in some qemu/xen virtual system :) > > home:/cdrom/debian/debian-1.0# du -s binary/

Re: Debian Buzz and Rex binary packages

2007-04-12 Thread Lennart Sorensen
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:10:43AM +1000, Hamish Moffatt wrote: > No, binaries were provided for all official releases (buzz/1.1 onwards). > There was an installer (known as boot-floppies); its appearance was > fairly similar from buzz right through to woody when it was retired. > > There was no a

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Drew Parsons
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:12 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:12:00PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > > Do we have plans for lenny to enable the use of bzip2 instead of gzip > > for the upstream orig.tar source tarballs? Does dpkg/apt support this > > already or has this alread

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-12 Thread Margarita Manterola
On 4/12/07, Robert Millan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: This thread has been moved from debian-release already. That's because debian-release is not a discussion list, it's only for coordination of the release. We're discussing a question that could affect decisions on the lenny release schedul

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 19:18:27 +0200 Pierre THIERRY <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I think a live CD aimed at developers would be quite useless. But > > feel free to correct me. > > The Université Jussieu (Paris) found it useful. They distribute a live > CD based on Knoppix to the students, called

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 20:25:35 +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > Still I don't see the advantage of having a complete development > environment on a live CD. Who is supposed to use this? > Students, who typically only have a windows install at home. It's much easier (for them and for the teache

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 11:31 +0200, Fabio Tranchitella wrote: > * 2007-04-12 11:29, Joey Hess wrote: > > I wonder if it would be reasonable to make d-i hit one of two urls > > depending on whether the user chose to enable popcon, and count the > > results. > > Isn't this a violation of user's priva

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 10:39 +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the > following might be an acceptable compromise: > > Would you like to participate in the Debian package popularity > contest meter? Blah blah blah. You may

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Andrea Bolognani
On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:27:25 +0200 Julien Cristau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 20:25:35 +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > > Still I don't see the advantage of having a complete development > > environment on a live CD. Who is supposed to use this? > > > Students, who typic

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:32 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:22:37 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > > dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial > > > numbers. > > Yes. > > Perhaps we only want to collect a subset of that information, or at

Re: Debian Development environments.

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 20:40 +0200, Andrea Bolognani escreveu: > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 20:27:25 +0200 > Julien Cristau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 20:25:35 +0200, Andrea Bolognani wrote: > > > > > Still I don't see the advantage of having a complete development > > > environ

samba crashing in debian etch

2007-04-12 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
Hi. I have recently installed debian etch from scratch, but samba is crashing. I have installed the samba-dbg package but i'm not getting a stack trace in the samba panic-action. Have i done anything wrong? I get this e-mail: The Samba 'panic action' script, /usr/share/samba/panic-action, was c

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 03:16:55PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > >We're discussing a question that could affect decisions on the lenny > >release schedule. > > The release schedule will not be affected by whatever ESR says in his > essays. Why does the essay's authorship matter? > Debian

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 10:33:46AM +0200, Miriam Ruiz wrote: > According to the benchmarks in http://www.linuks.mine.nu/sizematters/ , the > size of the archive would be nearly 30% smaller, but the decompression would > be 5 times slower, meaning that it would take 500% the time it takes now to > u

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 03:38:56AM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > > Why not lzma? It reduces size even more > > It's the same question really. "Do we want to move on from gz?" > > I guess bzip2 is more widely known than lzma, that is we're more likely > to directly use upstream's tarballs by ad

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Luis Matos
Qui, 2007-04-12 às 21:03 +0200, Robert Millan escreveu: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 03:38:56AM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > > > Why not lzma? It reduces size even more > > > > It's the same question really. "Do we want to move on from gz?" > > > > I guess bzip2 is more widely known than lzma, t

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:38:34AM +, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On to, 2007-04-12 at 10:12 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 12:12:00PM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > > > This would reduce our archive size by some 20% if all packages moved to > > > bzip2. > > > > Why not lzma

Re: samba crashing in debian etch

2007-04-12 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Fred, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham wrote: > I have recently installed debian etch from scratch, but samba is > crashing. thank you for contacting us with your issue. In order to alert the people that are most likely to be able to help you, it would be best if you filed a bug report for the samb

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:07:57PM +0100, Luis Matos wrote: > Qui, 2007-04-12 às 21:03 +0200, Robert Millan escreveu: > > On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 03:38:56AM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > > > > Why not lzma? It reduces size even more > > > > > > It's the same question really. "Do we want to move o

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:49:19PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Actually, I've considered adding hardware reporting to popcon, using a > separate question (or more options, not sure which), and hardware > reports do not need to be sent as often as package usage. Such > report-once settin

Building i386 binaries on ia64.

2007-04-12 Thread Rob Andrews
Hi all, I notice ia64 has ia32-libs and ia32-libs-dev, but I can't seem to find a compiler to build i386 binaries. The reason being is that I want to add support for the Debian nspluginwrapper package to run on ia64 machines, since they are biarch and have ia32-libs and ia32-libs-gtk. If there i

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:24:38PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 01:49:19PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > > Actually, I've considered adding hardware reporting to popcon, using a > > separate question (or more options, not sure which), and hardware > > reports do

Re: /etc/udev/rules.d non-symlinks

2007-04-12 Thread Joey Hess
Marco d'Itri wrote: > It's OK, I planned to discuss this after the release. > Experience showed that generally other packages do not need an easy way > to disable their whole rules files, so I think we can conclude that > usage of symlinks can be restricted to some of udev's own files and > eventua

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Joey Hess
Lars Wirzenius wrote: > However, changing the popcon debconf question to something like the > following might be an acceptable compromise: Farid not, it might result in slightly more installations being reported, but it will not let us calculate the approximate total number of new installations, s

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Robert Millan] > I would be very interested in an i386-only feature to report wether > the CPU is 64-bit capable (I have code in win32-loader with this > functionality). > > I'm not sure how this would fit in your client/server protocol, but I can > easily grab the code from win32-loader and inte

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Robert Millan
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 09:32:33PM +0200, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > > > > I would be very interested in an i386-only feature to report wether the CPU > > is 64-bit capable (I have code in win32-loader with this functionality). > > > > I'm not sure how this would fit in your client/server protocol, but

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/12/07 14:32, Kurt Roeckx wrote: [snip] > > You can also see this by looking at /proc/cpuinfo looking for "lm" in > flags. Does lahf_lm count? - -- Ron Johnson, Jr. Jefferson LA USA Give a man a fish, and he eats for a day. Hit him with a fis

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ron Johnson: > On 04/12/07 14:32, Kurt Roeckx wrote: > [snip] >> >> You can also see this by looking at /proc/cpuinfo looking for "lm" in >> flags. > > Does lahf_lm count? The file should also list "lm" earlier on the same line. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject o

Re: Mozilla renames: is Debian the only one?

2007-04-12 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 02:27:51PM -0300, Margarita Manterola wrote: > >> Gentoo has done renames of Mozilla products such as Firefox too. > >I asked one of my local gentoo devs - and he says "no - it is not > >rebranded/renamed" > > It's a USE flag called "mozbranding". It lets the user choose w

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Ron Johnson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 04/12/07 15:14, Florian Weimer wrote: > * Ron Johnson: > >> On 04/12/07 14:32, Kurt Roeckx wrote: >> [snip] >>> You can also see this by looking at /proc/cpuinfo looking for "lm" in >>> flags. >> Does lahf_lm count? > > The file should also list "

Re: 64-bit transition deadline (Re: Etch in the hands of the Stable Release Managers)

2007-04-12 Thread Jim Crilly
On 04/10/07 10:19:02PM +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Mon, Apr 09, 2007 at 06:39:16PM -0400, Jim Crilly wrote: > > And don't forget games. Game developers will start releasing 64-bit binaries > > and gamers will eat them up just because 64 > 32. So the Win64 market will > > have a fair amount of

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 05:29:13AM -0400, Joey Hess wrote: > Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > Looking at the submission numbers from > > http://popcon.debian.org/>, I am happy to report that the number > > of Etch installations is increasing fast. Here are the number of > > submissions collected by

Shouldn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] be more liberal on accepting mail?

2007-04-12 Thread Nikita V. Youshchenko
Looks like with current setup, [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not accept mail from domain that does not exist for the outside world. This looks suboptimal for me: why not accept all mail that looks like a popcon report? I know that it is possible to do local setup such as mail will look more legitimat

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 07:25:02PM +0200, Tshepang Lekhonkhobe wrote: > Please keep on sending these interesting stats, perhaps once-per-week, > to some blog or some mailing list. I'll be real glad. Thanks... Better yet, set up a MRTG-like graph. Everybody loves fancy graphs and they are really us

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 12:21:09AM +0200, Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > > The only caveat I can think of (but there might be others) is that it would > not be possible to properly count installations that are using > corporate (or ISP's) caching proxies (in somecases those are transparen

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Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Joey Hess
Javier Fernández-Sanguino Peña wrote: > Better yet, set up a MRTG-like graph. Everybody loves fancy graphs and they > are really useful in presentations at conferences :) http://popcon.debian.org/stat/sub-i386.png -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Guillem Jover
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 12:12:00 +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > Do we have plans for lenny to enable the use of bzip2 instead of gzip > for the upstream orig.tar source tarballs? Does dpkg/apt support this > already or has this already been thought about? As other people have replied etch's dpkg supp

Re: Use bz2 not gz for orig.tar ?

2007-04-12 Thread Drew Parsons
On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 21:03 +0200, Robert Millan wrote: > On Fri, Apr 13, 2007 at 03:38:56AM +1000, Drew Parsons wrote: > > > Why not lzma? It reduces size even more > > > > It's the same question really. "Do we want to move on from gz?" > > > > I guess bzip2 is more widely known than lzma, t

Re: samba crashing in debian etch

2007-04-12 Thread Frederico Rodrigues Abraham
yeah, i can report the bug, but there will be no stack trace, although samba-dbg is supported to supply these? Greets -- Fred On 4/12/07, Thomas Viehmann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hi Fred, Frederico Rodrigues Abraham wrote: > I have recently installed debian etch from scratch, but samba is >

Re: Shouldn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] be more liberal on accepting mail?

2007-04-12 Thread Bart Martens
On Fri, 2007-04-13 at 02:21 +0400, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Looks like with current setup, [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not accept > mail from domain that does not exist for the outside world. > > This looks suboptimal for me: why not accept all mail that looks like a > popcon report? > > I kno

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Apr 12, 2007 at 08:35:50PM +0200, Bart Martens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On Thu, 2007-04-12 at 17:32 +0200, gregor herrmann wrote: > > On Thu, 12 Apr 2007 15:22:37 +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > > > > > > dmidecode output is a big problem. It includes machine UUID and serial > >

Work-needing packages report for Apr 13, 2007

2007-04-12 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 397 (new: 26) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 82 (new: 2) Total number of packages request

Re: Shouldn't [EMAIL PROTECTED] be more liberal on accepting mail?

2007-04-12 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, On Fri, 13 Apr 2007, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote: > Looks like with current setup, [EMAIL PROTECTED] does not accept > mail from domain that does not exist for the outside world. > > This looks suboptimal for me: why not accept all mail that looks like a > popcon report? This has alread

Re: The number of etch installations is rocketing...

2007-04-12 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ron Johnson: > On 04/12/07 15:14, Florian Weimer wrote: >> * Ron Johnson: >> >>> On 04/12/07 14:32, Kurt Roeckx wrote: >>> [snip] You can also see this by looking at /proc/cpuinfo looking for "lm" in flags. >>> Does lahf_lm count? >> >> The file should also list "lm" earlier on the s

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