Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 01 Nov 2007, Bart Samwel wrote: > Luk Claes wrote: >> Bart Samwel wrote: >>> 3. Regarding the toshset package: I have a working Toshiba Tecra 8200, >>> one of the models covered by toshset. I may be biased, but as far as I'm >>> concerned the stuff is still useful. :-) >> Please do adopt th

Re: XS-Vcs-*, XS-X-Vcs-* and friends

2007-10-31 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting Romain Francoise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Willi Mann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > Why did you not search for XS-Vcs in general? > > Because packages using XS-Vcs-Browse are easy to catch, you can just > look at the Sources file and filter on 'Vcs-Browse'. Since the > other XS-Vcs-* fi

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Joey Hess
Bart Samwel wrote: > I wouldn't mind having the packages installed in the laptop task if that > fixes it. However, the laptop task currently uses the task-fields method, > which AFAICT means that the dependent packages should list themselves as > being part of the laptop task, something that wil

Bug#448810: ITP: fcapture -- network flow capture utility

2007-10-31 Thread Robert Edmonds
Package: wnpp Owner: "Robert S. Edmonds" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Severity: wishlist * Package name: fcapture Version : 0.0.1 Upstream Author : me * URL : http://people.debian.org/~edmonds/fcapture/ * License : MIT/X11 Programming Lang: C Description : networ

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Michael Biebl
Bart Samwel schrieb: > Joey Hess wrote: >> Raphael Hertzog wrote: >>> The problem is not so much on manually installed package but on initial >>> installation. I'm not sure what would get installed via the laptop >>> task if >>> we made that a Recommends... >> >> d-i can't afford to install recomme

Bug#448805: ITP: flatzebra -- Generic Game Engine library

2007-10-31 Thread Francois Marier
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Francois Marier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: flatzebra Version : 0.1.1 Upstream Author : Pierre Sarrazin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://perso.b2b2c.ca/sarrazip/dev/burgerspace.html * License : GPL Programming

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Bart Samwel
Joey Hess wrote: Raphael Hertzog wrote: The problem is not so much on manually installed package but on initial installation. I'm not sure what would get installed via the laptop task if we made that a Recommends... d-i can't afford to install recommends by default (best way to change that is

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Bart Samwel
Luk Claes wrote: Bart Samwel wrote: 3. Regarding the toshset package: I have a working Toshiba Tecra 8200, one of the models covered by toshset. I may be biased, but as far as I'm concerned the stuff is still useful. :-) Please do adopt the toshutils and toshset packages so people don't need t

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Joey Hess
Josselin Mouette wrote: > You may be interested to learn that we plan to downgrade a number of > dependencies of the gnome metapackages to Recommends. > > If this means tracking them later on to be sure that everything needed > is installed, maybe we need a way to improve the coordination between

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 31 octobre 2007 à 18:05 -0400, Joey Hess a écrit : > d-i can't afford to install recommends by default (best way to change > that is to make all uses of recommends sane to be installed by default). > > So the laptop task would need to track and list the recommends. Doing > something sm

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Hamish Moffatt
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 12:45:29AM +0100, Frank S. Thomas wrote: > Hi, > > On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Luk Claes wrote: > > Below you'll find a list of longtime orphaned packages with quite some > > users. It would be great if people could adopt packages that are still > > usefull and give alter

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Frank S. Thomas
Hi, On Wednesday 31 October 2007, Luk Claes wrote: > Below you'll find a list of longtime orphaned packages with quite some > users. It would be great if people could adopt packages that are still > usefull and give alternatives and/or migration plans for packages that > are rather obsolete or not

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Luk Claes
Ben Goodger wrote: > On 31/10/2007, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/libg/libglade.html >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/libv/libvncserver.html > > > AFAIK these are unofficially or officially deprecated: > libglade is now replaced by something nearly identica

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Luk Claes
Thomas Viehmann wrote: > Luk Claes wrote: >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/autobook.html > Based on the submitter's observation in #328219, maybe we should remove > autobook? > If it's non-free and increasingly outdated and doesn't have anone > wanting to maintain it, we might as well stop distri

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Luk Claes
Bart Samwel wrote: > tag 438665 wontfix > merge 438665 445900 > thanks > > Clint Adams wrote: >> reopen 438665 >> quit >> >> On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: >>> That sounds like the Dependens should be a Recommends, if so please file >>> a bug for it. >> >> It doesn't lo

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Steve Langasek
On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 05:39:38PM +, Ben Goodger wrote: > libvncserver has dropped out of use and been replaced by vlc. I somehow don't think it's likely for a remote desktop server to have been replaced by a media player? -- Steve Langasek Give me a lever long enough and

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Joey Hess
Raphael Hertzog wrote: > The problem is not so much on manually installed package but on initial > installation. I'm not sure what would get installed via the laptop task if > we made that a Recommends... d-i can't afford to install recommends by default (best way to change that is to make all use

Question about vestigial file

2007-10-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
I've created some new shorewall packages. As part of this, shorewall itself has turned into a dummy package and there is now a shorewall-common package which has taken (most of) shorewall's old contents. The old shorewall package installed /etc/logrotate.d/shorewall and I have it as /etc/logrotat

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 31 Oct 2007, Adeodato Simó wrote: > * Bart Samwel [Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:32:57 +0100]: > > Hello Bart. While I understand your reasoning, it may be now the time to > revisit it: > > > or Recommends which > > behaves exactly like Depends (like some package managers treat Recommends, > > bu

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Adeodato Simó
* Bart Samwel [Wed, 31 Oct 2007 21:32:57 +0100]: Hello Bart. While I understand your reasoning, it may be now the time to revisit it: > or Recommends which > behaves exactly like Depends (like some package managers treat Recommends, > but not all), As announced in [1] and can be seen in [2], a

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Luk Claes wrote: > http://packages.qa.debian.org/a/autobook.html Based on the submitter's observation in #328219, maybe we should remove autobook? If it's non-free and increasingly outdated and doesn't have anone wanting to maintain it, we might as well stop distributing it. Kind regards T. --

Re: Bug#438665: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Bart Samwel
tag 438665 wontfix merge 438665 445900 thanks Clint Adams wrote: reopen 438665 quit On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: That sounds like the Dependens should be a Recommends, if so please file a bug for it. It doesn't look like #438665 was actually fixed. OK, then I

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Daniel Baumann
Luk Claes wrote: > Yes, but this source package also builds audacious-crossfade which > probably should stay? I'll do a qa upload as we speak, removing the xmms package. One less to bother for the upcoming removal... -- Address:Daniel Baumann, Burgunderstrasse 3, CH-4562 Biberist Email:

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Steve Greenland
On 31-Oct-07, 12:39 (CDT), Ben Goodger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > libvncserver has dropped out of use and been replaced by vlc. Huh? VNC != VLC. Steve -- Steve Greenland The irony is that Bill Gates claims to be making a stable operating system and Linus Torvalds claims to be trying

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Adam Cécile (Le_Vert)
Cyril Brulebois a écrit : > Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (31/10/2007): > >> Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >> >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xmms-crossfade.html >>> If I remember right gtk-1 is supposed to be removed from lenny, so >>> xmms will be gone, too. >>> >> Yes

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Thu, Nov 01, 2007 at 01:37:38AM +0900, Michal Čihař wrote: > Hi > > Dne Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:21:24 +0100 > Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > > > Below you'll find a list of longtime orphaned packages with quite some > > users. It would be great if people could adopt packages that are

Bug#62878: Two persons love in one another the future good which they aid one another to unfold.

2007-10-31 Thread Emilio Milton
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Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (31/10/2007): > Below you'll find a list of longtime orphaned packages with quite some > users. It would be great if people could adopt packages that are still > usefull and give alternatives and/or migration plans for packages that > are rather obsolete or not really

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Ben Goodger
On 31/10/2007, Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://packages.qa.debian.org/libg/libglade.html > http://packages.qa.debian.org/libv/libvncserver.html AFAIK these are unofficially or officially deprecated: libglade is now replaced by something nearly identical or perhaps merely renamed a

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> (31/10/2007): > Bernd Zeimetz wrote: > > >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xmms-crossfade.html > > > > If I remember right gtk-1 is supposed to be removed from lenny, so > > xmms will be gone, too. > > Yes, but this source package also builds audacious-crossfade wh

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Clint Adams
reopen 438665 quit On Wed, Oct 31, 2007 at 06:22:11PM +0100, Luk Claes wrote: > That sounds like the Dependens should be a Recommends, if so please file > a bug for it. It doesn't look like #438665 was actually fixed. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of "unsubscribe

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Luk Claes
Michal Čihař wrote: > Hi > > Dne Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:21:24 +0100 > Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > >> Below you'll find a list of longtime orphaned packages with quite some >> users. It would be great if people could adopt packages that are still >> usefull and give alternatives and/

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Luk Claes
Bernd Zeimetz wrote: >> http://packages.qa.debian.org/x/xmms-crossfade.html > > If I remember right gtk-1 is supposed to be removed from lenny, so xmms > will be gone, too. Yes, but this source package also builds audacious-crossfade which probably should stay? Cheers Luk -- To UNSUBSCRIBE,

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
Hi, > http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/python-gnome.html python-gnome only useful for gnome 1. It could (should?) be replaced by a pseudo package which transitions to python-gnome2 probably, or just be removed from Debian. > http://packages.qa.debian.org/p/pyzor.html Imho there're better ways t

Re: Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi Dne Wed, 31 Oct 2007 17:21:24 +0100 Luk Claes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> napsal(a): > Below you'll find a list of longtime orphaned packages with quite some > users. It would be great if people could adopt packages that are still > usefull and give alternatives and/or migration plans for packages t

Orphaned packages with quite some users

2007-10-31 Thread Luk Claes
Hi Below you'll find a list of longtime orphaned packages with quite some users. It would be great if people could adopt packages that are still usefull and give alternatives and/or migration plans for packages that are rather obsolete or not really usefull anymore. Cheers Luk http://packa

Bug#448756: ITP: dmucs -- distributed compilation system for use with distcc

2007-10-31 Thread Sam Clegg
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Sam Clegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: dmucs Version : 0.6.1 Upstream Author : Victor Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://dmucs.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : distr

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2007-10-31 Thread Florian Weimer
* Francesco P. Lovergine: > On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:04:12PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: >> Embedded code copies >> > Wouldn't be the case to add a suitable control field, as proposed > in a previous thread for that case? For various reasons, we need something that

Bug#448724: O: imsniff: Simple program to log Instant Messaging activity on the network

2007-10-31 Thread Holger Levsen
package: wnpp X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Amaya requested me to orphan this package as she is too busy. regards, Holger pgpM4XHNQoxIw.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2007-10-31 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Tue, Oct 30, 2007 at 09:04:12PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Embedded code copies > > > Developers are encouraged to communicate amongst their colleague > developers for cases where their packages have code in common with > other packages. For example a package which