dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Ian Jackson
With this message I am unilaterally declaring myself a maintainer of dpkg, and also declaring that Guillem is no longer a maintainer. I have just made the hijack upload, dpkg 1.15.0, which contains triggers support. You can find the specification in doc/ in the source, or in

DD in Antarctic Continent?

2008-03-09 Thread Hideki Yamane
Hi list, Just a question. In Developer Locations page(*), it seems that Debian Developer is in Antarctic Continent... awesome! Is it real?? *) http://www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc -- Regards, Hideki Yamane -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of

Re: DD in Antarctic Continent?

2008-03-09 Thread Clint Adams
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 10:14:14PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: Hi list, Just a question. In Developer Locations page(*), it seems that Debian Developer is in Antarctic Continent... awesome! Is it real?? Not that one; someone made a sign error with his coordinates. -- To

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On dim, mar 09, 2008 at 11:28:13 +, Ian Jackson wrote: With this message I am unilaterally declaring myself a maintainer of dpkg, and also declaring that Guillem is no longer a maintainer. I have just made the hijack upload, dpkg 1.15.0, which contains triggers support. You can find the

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:28:13AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: With this message I am unilaterally declaring myself a maintainer of dpkg, and also declaring that Guillem is no longer a maintainer. How can you possibly consider this justified, without even passing through the TC? I find your

Please remove tkchooser

2008-03-09 Thread Daniel van Eeden
Dear QA, Please remove the tkchooser package from Debian. * First removal request in 2004: http://lists.debian.org/debian-qa/2004/12/msg00018.html * An important bug (#160136) is open for 5 years and 183 days. * The Standards-Version is old (3.7.3 instead of 3.5.9.0) * Upstream is abandoned

Re: DD in Antarctic Continent?

2008-03-09 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 10:05:34AM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 10:14:14PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: In Developer Locations page(*), it seems that Debian Developer is in Antarctic Continent... awesome! Is it real?? Not that one; someone made a sign error with his

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:28:13AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: With this message I am unilaterally declaring myself a maintainer of dpkg, and also declaring that Guillem is no longer a maintainer. I find this unacceptable. This kind of situations are precisely those in which people should resort

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On dim, mar 09, 2008 at 11:28:13 +, Ian Jackson wrote: REFERENCES, BACKGROUND and FURTHER DISCUSSION [1] Guillem persistently reintroducing errors, wholesale Here is an example of a big code change made by Guillem:

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:50:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: AHAHAHAHAHA I totally missed that part in the first read. You're totally on crack. Under C, NULL is defined as (void *)0 (and *NOT* (char *)0 that is TOTALLY wrong for obvious reasons), and someone is not going to #define

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: With this message I am unilaterally declaring myself a maintainer of dpkg, and also declaring that Guillem is no longer a maintainer. For the record, Ian has been removed from the dpkg group on Alioth and we asked for an UNACCEPT of his upload, but I'm

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:21:47PM +, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:50:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: AHAHAHAHAHA I totally missed that part in the first read. You're totally on crack. Under C, NULL is defined as (void *)0 (and *NOT* (char *)0 that is TOTALLY

Re: Please remove tkchooser

2008-03-09 Thread Jonny Lamb
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 04:30:01PM +0100, Daniel van Eeden wrote: Dear QA, Please remove the tkchooser package from Debian. The following page contains information on requesting a package removal: http://wiki.debian.org/ftpmaster_Removals Regards, -- Jonny Lamb, UK

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Raphael Hertzog wrote: [2] Reformatting changes Guillem has been engaging in a programme of reformatting and restyling of dpkg's code. I agree that it's necessarily a good idea to reformat the code but you ^ not brought up the

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:34:48PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:21:47PM +, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:50:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: AHAHAHAHAHA I totally missed that part in the first read. You're totally on crack. Under C,

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Faidon Liambotis
Ian Jackson wrote: [4] Why not ask the Technical Committee to rule ? The TC has not shown great dynamism in recent months. I have tried quite hard as a TC member to get various questions that were put to the TC decided, and the results have not been encouraging. In any case, asking the TC

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Kurt Roeckx
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:48:41PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: 6.3.2.3 Pointers [...] 3 An integer constant expression with the value 0, or such an expression cast to type void *, is called a null pointer constant.55) If a null pointer constant is assigned to or

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:00:31PM +, Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:48:41PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: 6.3.2.3 Pointers [...] 3 An integer constant expression with the value 0, or such an expression cast to type void *, is called a null pointer

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mohammed Adnène Trojette
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: Finally, of course, I am on the Technical Committee. For me to appeal this dispute to it in this way would seem too much like me using it as a personal bludgeon. You could also appeal this dispute to it and not take part in the vote, so that the TC's

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:34:48PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Here is the relevant C99 quote: § 7.17 Common definitions stddef.h [...] 3 The macros are NULL which expands to an implementation-defined null pointer constant; and 0 is not a pointer, hence

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:50:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: I fully support Guillem changes. C99 is almost 10 years old, we're coding dpkg for Debian, in a sane C99/POSIX/X-OPEN/whatever environment. Hmm... Not really. GCC's default mode is still C89+GNU extensions. It is true that the

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 07:09:39PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: Well, I read it that way: An integer constant expression with the value 0 (or such an expression) cast to type void *, is called a null pointer constant.55) Well, don't read it that way - the commas in the original version

Re: DD in Antarctic Continent?

2008-03-09 Thread Clint Adams
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:13:14PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: So he's really in very-northern Finland/Sweden/Norway/Russia? If I recall correctly, he was somewhere in or around Michigan. -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:16:03PM +, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:50:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: I fully support Guillem changes. C99 is almost 10 years old, we're coding dpkg for Debian, in a sane C99/POSIX/X-OPEN/whatever environment. Hmm... Not

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Lionel Elie Mamane
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 07:17:44PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:16:03PM +, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:50:16PM +0100, Pierre Habouzit wrote: I fully support Guillem changes. C99 is almost 10 years old, we're coding dpkg for Debian, in

Re: DD in Antarctic Continent?

2008-03-09 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Clint Adams wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 10:14:14PM +0900, Hideki Yamane wrote: In Developer Locations page(*), it seems that Debian Developer is in Antarctic Continent... awesome! Is it real?? Not that one; someone made a sign error with his coordinates. Can we

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Pierre Habouzit writes (Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)): What a brilliant success for your new upload ! http://buildd.debian.org/~jeroen/status/package.php?p=dpkg This was due to a buggy translation update (predating my efforts, but not yet uploaded by anyone). It

Re: DD in Antarctic Continent?

2008-03-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 02:17:04PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:13:14PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: So he's really in very-northern Finland/Sweden/Norway/Russia? If I recall correctly, he was somewhere in or around Michigan. Which really is not all that

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: With this message I am unilaterally declaring myself a maintainer of dpkg, and also declaring that Guillem is no longer a maintainer. For the record, Ian has been removed from the dpkg group on Alioth and

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 12:27:59 Faidon Liambotis wrote: I can't understand how a Debian Developer, let alone a Technical Comittee member, can find it acceptable to hijack a package actively maintained because of technical disagreements with its maintainer. Especially if that package is a core

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Raphael Hertzog writes (Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)): You can also read the log of #debian-dpkg since friday evening where I spent two hours with him trying to find some compromise so that he can contribute to dpkg. He just ignored everything we said and took this

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 19:27 +, Faidon Liambotis wrote: You're hurting the credibility of the comittee and of the whole project. That's much more important than a disagreement on a technical matter. On the other hand allowing dpkg to be maintained in the way that it presently is, is

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Riku Voipio
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:34:36PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Pierre Habouzit writes (Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)): If you're so afraid that one of the included headers defines NULL to '0', then just assert (__builtin_types_compatible(NULL, void *)) somewhere

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:53:23PM +, Mike Bird wrote: On Sun March 9 2008 12:27:59 Faidon Liambotis wrote: I can't understand how a Debian Developer, let alone a Technical Comittee member, can find it acceptable to hijack a package actively maintained because of technical disagreements

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: Can you tell us in which situations we have #define NULL 0 as opposed to #define NULL (void*)0 ? Some C libraries do this for the benefit of broken old programs which use NULL when they mean an integer or character0. C99 says it's legal for NULL to

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Raphael Hertzog writes (Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)): The package got unaccepted by Anthony Towns. OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET SOMETHING DONE AROUND HERE? SIX MONTHS THIS IMPORTANT CODE HAS JUST BEEN SITTING THERE -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Ian Jackson
Ian Jackson writes (Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)): Raphael Hertzog writes (Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)): OH FOR FUCK'S SAKE WHAT DOES IT TAKE TO GET SOMETHING DONE AROUND HERE? SIX MONTHS THIS IMPORTANT CODE HAS JUST BEEN SITTING THERE

Bug#470185: RFH: jove -- Jonathan's Own Version of Emacs - a compact, powerful editor

2008-03-09 Thread Cord Beermann
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the jove package. The package description is: Jove is a compact, powerful Emacs-style text-editor. It provides the common emacs keyboard bindings, together with a reasonable assortment of the most popular advanced features

Bug#470187: RFH: nn -- Heavy-duty USENET news reader (curses-based client)

2008-03-09 Thread Cord Beermann
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the nn package. The package description is: The motto of nn is its expanded name, which is No News is good news, but nn is better, and the nn newsreader is designed to let you minimize the amount of time you spend reading

Bug#470188: RFH: milter-greylist -- GreyList milter for sendmail

2008-03-09 Thread Cord Beermann
Package: wnpp Severity: normal I request assistance with maintaining the milter-greylist package. The package description is: milter-greylist is a stand-alone milter written in C that implements the greylist filtering method, as proposed by Evan Harris. . Grey listing works by assuming that

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Roger Leigh
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:28:13AM +, Ian Jackson wrote: [1] Guillem persistently reintroducing errors, wholesale Here is an example of a big code change made by Guillem: http://git.debian.org/?p=dpkg/dpkg.git;a=commit;h=4e5846ccd3dcc33504aba8ef35a8962bccfd562e However this is

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread William Pitcock
On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 20:38 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: And what is the problem exactly? The delay in patch integration? A six month delay is unacceptable for code review. If it takes six months, then new leadership is clearly required. William signature.asc Description: This is a digitally

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 13:44:08 Roger Leigh wrote: I seriously can't believe that you hijacked this over a disagreement about the definition/usage of NULL. Include stdlib.h and be done with it already--it's not like this is a pressing or difficult problem that warranted this action! Roger,

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 09/03/2008, Mike Bird wrote: Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been blocking updates for six months - including the triggers enhancement which is needed for boot time improvements Is dpkg handling the boot sequence? Or are you confusing that with dependency-based

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread William Pitcock
Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 13:19 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: including the triggers enhancement which is needed for boot time improvements and which should simplify some other packaging issues. I think you mean package install-time improvements, due to postponing ldconfig until the end of the

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Aurelien Jarno
William Pitcock a écrit : Hi, On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 13:19 -0800, Mike Bird wrote: including the triggers enhancement which is needed for boot time improvements and which should simplify some other packaging issues. I think you mean package install-time improvements, due to postponing

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Joey Hess
William Pitcock wrote: On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 20:38 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: And what is the problem exactly? The delay in patch integration? If you'd look at submitting patches to dpkg from the perspective of any recent patch submitter, I'd think that the problem would be clear. -- see

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Joey Hess
William Pitcock wrote: I think you mean package install-time improvements, due to postponing ldconfig until the end of the installation. However, I am not sure how useful this is because many maintainer scripts not generated by debhelper call ldconfig locally. Obviously the maintainer

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 14:46:50 Cyril Brulebois wrote: On 09/03/2008, Mike Bird wrote: Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been blocking updates for six months - including the triggers enhancement which is needed for boot time improvements Is dpkg handling the boot

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2008-03-09 Thread Noah Meyerhans
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: * You need to be familiar with how the wide variety Debian packages are maintained, patched and built. If you're not scared by packages generating their patch series by applying sed statements from cdbs include files

debimg 0.0.1 released

2008-03-09 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Dear readers, The first release of debimg is available now: 0.0.1 Get the tarball: http://users.alioth.debian.org/~jak-guest/debimg_0.0.1.tar.gz Clone git repo: git://git.debian.org/git/users/jak-guest/debimg.git Browse the repo: http://git.debian.org/?p=users/jak-guest/debimg.git This is the

Bug#470212: ITP: debimg -- replacement for debian-cd written in Python

2008-03-09 Thread Julian Andres Klode
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julian Andres Klode [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Package name: debimg Version : 0.1 Upstream Author : Julian Andres Klode * URL : http://wiki.debian.org/debimg * License : GPL-3+ Programming Lang: Python Description :

Re: DD in Antarctic Continent?

2008-03-09 Thread Adam Majer
Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 02:17:04PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:13:14PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: So he's really in very-northern Finland/Sweden/Norway/Russia? If I recall correctly, he was somewhere in or around Michigan. Which really

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Adam Borowski
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 02:17:15PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: On Sun March 9 2008 14:46:50 Cyril Brulebois wrote: Is dpkg handling the boot sequence? Or are you confusing that with dependency-based initscripts? I hope I'm not mis-stating Frans's position when I say that Frans believes dpkg

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been blocking updates for six months - including the triggers enhancement which is needed for boot time improvements dpkg triggers are nice to have, but they are not the reason why we haven't

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Michael Casadevall
I'm going to have to agree with this; I admin m68k buildds; I had to preinstall most of the texex packages simply because it was taking hours (and that is not an exaggeration) to install them all, and then remove them all again. A trigger based system would help relieve this problem. I had a

Re: DD in Antarctic Continent?

2008-03-09 Thread John Hasler
Adam writes: To put it in perspective, Michigan is at the same latitude as northern half of Italy or even Spain. Michigan extends from about 42N to about 48N: about from Rome to Munich. Most of Canadians live south of the latitude of London, UK. A fact which caused considerable consternation

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 16:07:58 Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been blocking updates for six months - including the triggers enhancement which is needed for boot time improvements dpkg triggers are

Re: DD in Antarctic Continent?

2008-03-09 Thread Roberto C . Sánchez
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:21:19PM -0500, Adam Majer wrote: Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 02:17:04PM -0400, Clint Adams wrote: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 05:13:14PM +0100, Lionel Elie Mamane wrote: So he's really in very-northern Finland/Sweden/Norway/Russia? If I recall

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Daniel Stone
[Not subscribed, Cc if you want me to see it.] On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 01:19:58PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been blocking updates for six months So Ian Murdock would be perfectly entitled to kick out the DAM, DPL, TC, DSA, and all others

Timeline for normal buildd operation on MIPS ?

2008-03-09 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear MIPS porters, Despite the hard work you made for your buildds, the backlog is stil stabilizing to a level that blocks into unstable the packages that evolve at the periphery of the Debian galaxy, such as scientific applications. In order to help the people maintaining such packages to

Re: Timeline for normal buildd operation on MIPS ?

2008-03-09 Thread Cyril Brulebois
On 10/03/2008, Charles Plessy wrote: Dear MIPS porters, Dear Charles, Despite the hard work you made for your buildds, the backlog is stil stabilizing to a level that blocks into unstable the packages that evolve at the periphery of the Debian galaxy, such as scientific applications.

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 07:52:28PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Ian Jackson wrote: With this message I am unilaterally declaring myself a maintainer of dpkg, and also declaring that Guillem is no longer a maintainer. For

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
[Not CCing -dpkg anymore, not relevant there] Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Triggers are needed - a necessary condition, or at least a highly desirable condition - for efficient installation of packages in order to avoid unnecessary repetitive global reorderings of the initscript

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 17:30:51 Daniel Stone wrote: [Not subscribed, Cc if you want me to see it.] On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 01:19:58PM -0800, Mike Bird wrote: Ian hijacked his own program back from the people who had been blocking updates for six months So Ian Murdock would be perfectly

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Sune Vuorela
On 2008-03-10, Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it unlikely that the DAM, DPL, TC, and DSA would block useful updates to Debian for six months Welcome to real world. /Sune -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Bird
On Sun March 9 2008 18:40:25 Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: Mike Bird [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In simple terms: dpkg triggers is a highly desirable precondition for dependency-based initscripts, but so are several other preconditions, not least of which is a substantial test period. The

NULL and (char *) 0 (was: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers))

2008-03-09 Thread Russ Allbery
Riku Voipio [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 06:34:36PM +, Ian Jackson wrote: Pierre Habouzit writes: If you're so afraid that one of the included headers defines NULL to '0', then just assert (__builtin_types_compatible(NULL, void *)) somewhere and be done with it.

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Steve Greenland
On 09-Mar-08, 19:30 (CDT), Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to ask on which grounds exactly you were judging the dpkg team's competence (and that of iwj's: have you reviewed the branch yourself? can you confidently say that it's all fine?), The problem is not the dpkg team

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-09 Thread Anthony Towns
On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 10:38:44PM -0500, Steve Greenland wrote: On 09-Mar-08, 19:30 (CDT), Daniel Stone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was going to ask on which grounds exactly you were judging the dpkg team's competence (and that of iwj's: have you reviewed the branch yourself? can you

Bug#470236: RFP: flam3 -- Programs to generate and render cosmic recursive fractal flames (fwd)

2008-03-09 Thread Ian Weller
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: flam3 Version: 2.7.9 Upstream author: Scott Draves spot draves org URL: http://www.flam3.com/ License: GPLv2+ Description: Flam3, or Fractal Flames, are algorithmically generated images and animations.

Accepted bobot++ 1:1.97-10.1 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread James Vega
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 03:26:28 -0400 Source: bobot++ Binary: bobot++ Architecture: source i386 Version: 1:1.97-10.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Sam Hocevar (Debian packages) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: James Vega

Accepted ghostscript 8.62.dfsg.1-1 (source all i386)

2008-03-09 Thread mhatta
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:39:31 +0800 Source: ghostscript Binary: ghostscript gs gs-esp gs-gpl gs-aladdin gs-common ghostscript-x ghostscript-doc libgs8 libgs-dev Architecture: source all i386 Version: 8.62.dfsg.1-1 Distribution: unstable

Accepted clamav-data 20080309.061900.6181 (source all)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc Haber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 07:30:19 + Source: clamav-data Binary: clamav-data Architecture: source all Version: 20080309.061900.6181 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Marc Haber [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marc Haber [EMAIL

Accepted xml2rfc 1.33.dfsg-1 (source all)

2008-03-09 Thread Florian Weimer
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 09:13:27 +0100 Source: xml2rfc Binary: xml2rfc Architecture: source all Version: 1.33.dfsg-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Florian Weimer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Florian Weimer [EMAIL

Accepted debram 1.0.3-0.1 (source all amd64)

2008-03-09 Thread Bart Martens
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 08:36:42 +0100 Source: debram Binary: debram debram-data Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 1.0.3-0.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Thaddeus H. Black [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Bart Martens

Accepted tcpquota 1.6.15-12.1 (source all)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:33:42 +0100 Source: tcpquota Binary: tcpquota Architecture: source all Version: 1.6.15-12.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Turbo Fredriksson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt

Accepted libavg 0.7.0-5 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Torsten Werner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 20:57:39 +0100 Source: libavg Binary: python-libavg Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.7.0-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Torsten Werner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Torsten Werner [EMAIL

Accepted gcvs 1.0final-16 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Roland Stigge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:07:28 +0100 Source: gcvs Binary: gcvs Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0final-16 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Roland Stigge [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Roland Stigge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted kbd 1.12-19.1 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:44:02 +0100 Source: kbd Binary: kbd kbd-udeb Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.12-19.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Console utilities maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marc 'HE'

Accepted pdbv 2.0.11-0.3 (source all)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 10:54:24 +0100 Source: pdbv Binary: pdbv Architecture: source all Version: 2.0.11-0.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Mathieu Roy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted libnet-smtpauth-perl 0.08-2 (source all)

2008-03-09 Thread Nacho Barrientos Arias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:02:13 +0100 Source: libnet-smtpauth-perl Binary: libnet-smtpauth-perl Architecture: source all Version: 0.08-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Nacho Barrientos Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted libclass-contract-perl 1.14-6 (source all)

2008-03-09 Thread Nacho Barrientos Arias
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:22:12 +0100 Source: libclass-contract-perl Binary: libclass-contract-perl Architecture: source all Version: 1.14-6 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Nacho Barrientos Arias [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted perl 5.10.0-5 (source all amd64)

2008-03-09 Thread Brendan O'Dea
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 19:54:55 +1100 Source: perl Binary: perl-base libcgi-fast-perl perl-doc perl-modules perl-debug perl-suid libperl5.10 libperl-dev perl Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 5.10.0-5 Distribution: experimental

Accepted jack 3.1.1+cvs20050801-23 (source amd64)

2008-03-09 Thread Martin Michlmayr
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:17:14 +0100 Source: jack Binary: jack Architecture: source amd64 Version: 3.1.1+cvs20050801-23 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Michael Banck [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Martin Michlmayr [EMAIL

Accepted doc-linux-ja 2006.05.25-1.1 (source all)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:16:13 +0100 Source: doc-linux-ja Binary: doc-linux-ja-html doc-linux-ja-text Architecture: source all Version: 2006.05.25-1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: GOTO Masanori [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted fruit 2.1.dfsg-3 (source amd64)

2008-03-09 Thread Oliver Korff
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 06 Feb 2008 20:25:32 +0100 Source: fruit Binary: fruit Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.1.dfsg-3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Oliver Korff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Oliver Korff [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted libsmbios 0.13.13-1 (source all amd64)

2008-03-09 Thread Jose Luis Tallon
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Fri, 07 Mar 2008 23:40:37 +0100 Source: libsmbios Binary: libsmbios1 libsmbios-dev libsmbios-bin libsmbios-doc libsmbiosxml1 libsmbiosxml-dev Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 0.13.13-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low

Accepted python2.5 2.5.2-2 (source all i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Matthias Klose
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 16:11:23 +0100 Source: python2.5 Binary: python2.5 python2.5-minimal python2.5-examples python2.5-dev idle-python2.5 python2.5-dbg Architecture: source all i386 Version: 2.5.2-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low

Accepted uriparser 0.6.4-1 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Adeodato Simó
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:54:35 +0100 Source: uriparser Binary: liburiparser1 liburiparser-dev Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.6.4-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Xiph.org Maintainers [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted dpkg 1.15.0 (source i386 all)

2008-03-09 Thread Ian Jackson
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sat, 08 Mar 2008 20:41:08 + Source: dpkg Binary: dpkg dpkg-dev dselect Architecture: source i386 all Version: 1.15.0 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Dpkg Developers [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Ian Jackson [EMAIL

Accepted idswakeup 1.0-5 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:19:24 +0100 Source: idswakeup Binary: idswakeup Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0-5 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian QA Group [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt [EMAIL

Accepted jasper 1.900.1-4 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Roland Stigge
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:53:44 +0100 Source: jasper Binary: libjasper1 libjasper-dev libjasper-runtime Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.900.1-4 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Roland Stigge [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Accepted avogadro 0.6.1-1 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Jordan Mantha
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 06:16:09 + Source: avogadro Binary: avogadro libavogadro0 libavogadro-dev Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.6.1-1 Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: Debichem Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By:

Accepted earth3d 1.0.5-1.1 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Luk Claes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:14:10 + Source: earth3d Binary: earth3d Architecture: source i386 Version: 1.0.5-1.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Petter Reinholdtsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Luk Claes [EMAIL

Accepted user-he 1.0.17-0.1 (source all)

2008-03-09 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 12:26:40 +0100 Source: user-he Binary: user-he Architecture: source all Version: 1.0.17-0.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Hebrew Packaging Team [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Marc 'HE'

Accepted mpb 1.4.2-11.1 (source all i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Riku Voipio
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 13:21:16 +0200 Source: mpb Binary: mpb mpb-mpi mpb-doc Architecture: source all i386 Version: 1.4.2-11.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Loïc Le Guyader [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Riku Voipio

Accepted samba 3.0.28-4 (source all amd64)

2008-03-09 Thread Steve Langasek
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:09:26 -0700 Source: samba Binary: samba samba-common smbclient swat samba-doc samba-doc-pdf smbfs libpam-smbpass libsmbclient libsmbclient-dev winbind samba-dbg Architecture: source all amd64 Version: 3.0.28-4

Accepted mailscanner 4.66.5-2 (source all)

2008-03-09 Thread Simon Walter
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 18:10:14 +0100 Source: mailscanner Binary: mailscanner Architecture: source all Version: 4.66.5-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Simon Walter [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Simon Walter [EMAIL

Accepted fgfs-atlas 0.3.0-5.1 (source i386)

2008-03-09 Thread Luk Claes
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.7 Date: Sun, 09 Mar 2008 11:43:16 + Source: fgfs-atlas Binary: fgfs-atlas Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.3.0-5.1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Ove Kaaven [EMAIL PROTECTED] Changed-By: Luk Claes [EMAIL

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