Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Frans Pop
Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > I believe your understanding of Frans' position is fairly correct, but > it differ from mine, and I am the one behind the dependency boot > sequencing proposal. I am not convinced yet that triggers are needed, > nor wanted, for dependency boot sequencing. This is part

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Joey Hess wrote: > William Pitcock wrote: > > On Sun, 2008-03-09 at 20:38 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > > > And what is the problem exactly? The delay in patch integration? > > If you'd look at submitting patches to dpkg from the perspective of any > recent patch submitter,

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
* Anthony Towns | In January, Tollef posted about his file exclusion branch, for review. | Guillem did some review and proposed merging it for .17; afaics Ian | couldn't find the git repository at first attempt, then offered to review, | but never did. | |-- http://lists.debian.org/debian-dp

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2008-03-10 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Moritz, On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:05:11PM +0100, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Use of RT > = > The Security Team is now using Request Tracker to coordinate work > and our RT processes have already been refined a lot. > If you're a package maintainer working towards a security update, >

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2008-03-10 Thread Thijs Kinkhorst
On Mon, March 10, 2008 09:24, Steve Langasek wrote: >> If you're opening a ticket for a security problem which is publicly >> known, e.g. if it's announced on the project web site, please open a >> ticket in the "Security" queue. These issues will be visible publicly. > > As far as I can see, this

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2008-03-10 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Mon, March 10, 2008 09:24, Steve Langasek wrote: > >> If you're opening a ticket for a security problem which is publicly > >> known, e.g. if it's announced on the project web site, please open a > >> ticket in the "Security" queue. These issues will

Re: Timeline for normal buildd operation on MIPS ?

2008-03-10 Thread Colin Tuckley
Cyril Brulebois wrote: > despite the words you're trying to use to mask it, you're really > harrassing them for no valid reasons. Actually, he is not. The mips arch (and to a certain extent the mipsel arch) is causing problems both for the gFortran transition and for the introduction of armel as

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2008-03-10 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 09:28:24AM +0100, Thijs Kinkhorst wrote: > On Mon, March 10, 2008 09:24, Steve Langasek wrote: > >> If you're opening a ticket for a security problem which is publicly > >> known, e.g. if it's announced on the project web site, please open a > >> ticket in the "Security" que

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Mike Bird <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Your English is much better than my German. Nevertheless either your > English is inadequate for the role you are attempting to fill or else > you are deliberately trying to provoke an argument. My english has its flaws, but I'm usually able to follow a dis

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Frans Pop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: >> You seem to believe that Frans decides if and when we are going to >> switch to a dep-based init system. > That is a completely ridiculous simplification of Mike's mail and also does > not do justice to the concerns I raised.

Graphing Debian Keyring (Was: DD in Antarctic Continent?)

2008-03-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008, Hideki Yamane wrote: In Developer Locations page(*), it seems that Debian Developer is in Antarctic Continent... awesome! Is it real?? *) http://www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc BTW, I remember times when Edward Betts did some graphing of the Debian keyring under ht

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 10 mars 2008 à 01:45 -0800, Mike Bird a écrit : > Hi Marc, > > "needed" has several similar but distinct meanings. None of the meanings > is more obvious than any other. "Need" I remind you that if you had taken > the time to do the "necessary" homework you could have saved the readers

Re: binNMUs to keep haskell packages in sync

2008-03-10 Thread Bastian Blank
This gets offtopic on debian-release. Please follow to debian-devel. On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 11:55:15PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > Am Sonntag, den 09.03.2008, 23:02 +0100 schrieb Bastian Blank: > > On Sun, Mar 09, 2008 at 07:42:59PM +0100, Joachim Breitner wrote: > > > haskell libraries have

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Mike Bird
On Mon March 10 2008 02:08:35 Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt wrote: > In what cases is "needed" not having its, ehm, obvious meaning? You seem > to suggest that "need" in "I need to breath to live" means "breathing > 'is a highly desirable precondition' for living", which to my (German, > after all) ears s

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Thomas Weber
Am Montag, den 10.03.2008, 11:24 +0100 schrieb Josselin Mouette: > Le lundi 10 mars 2008 à 01:45 -0800, Mike Bird a écrit : > > Hi Marc, > > > > "needed" has several similar but distinct meanings. None of the meanings > > is more obvious than any other. "Need" I remind you that if you had taken

Re: Dependency based boot sequencing and triggers

2008-03-10 Thread Otavio Salvador
Petter Reinholdtsen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: >> Otherwise the installer unnecessarily and repetitively globally >> recalculates initscript dependencies for each package installed. > > Actually, it happens every time a init.d script is added to the boot > and shutdown sequence, and I believe it

Re: dpkg semi-hijack - an announcement (also, triggers)

2008-03-10 Thread Darren Salt
I demand that Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt may or may not have written... [snip] > In what cases is "needed" not having its, ehm, obvious meaning? You seem > to suggest that "need" in "I need to breath to live" means "breathing > 'is a highly desirable precondition' for living", which to my (German, > a

UE/UR macros in manpages

2008-03-10 Thread Martin Stigge
Hi debian-devel, as of version 1.23.43, lintian checks for warnings in manpages with man's new --warning option (with man since 2.5.1). For quite some packages, lintian will produce an error like this: W: wmweather+: manpage-has-errors-from-man usr/share/man/man1/wmweather+.1x.gz 191: warning: `

Re: UE/UR macros in manpages

2008-03-10 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 03:49:34PM +0100, Martin Stigge wrote: > as of version 1.23.43, lintian checks for warnings in manpages with > man's new --warning option (with man since 2.5.1). For quite some > packages, lintian will produce an error like this: > > W: wmweather+: manpage-has-errors-from-m

ITP: ttf-linex -- Free fonts for education and institutions

2008-03-10 Thread L. Redrejo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: ttf-linex Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Juan José Marcos URL : http://gata.linex.org/trac/browser/ttf-linex License : GPL Description : Free fonts

ITP: aptlinex -- Web browser addon to install Debian packages with a click

2008-03-10 Thread L. Redrejo
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Package name: aptlinex Version : 2.0 Upstream Authors : Daniel Campos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> & José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL : http://gata.linex.org/trac/browser/a

Re: ITP: aptlinex -- Web browser addon to install Debian packages with a click

2008-03-10 Thread Michael Banck
Hi, On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 05:40:16PM +0100, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Package name: aptlinex > Version : 2.0 > Upstream Authors : Daniel Campos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> & José L.

Re: ITP: aptlinex -- Web browser addon to install Debian packages with a click

2008-03-10 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This is very interesting! However, from that spanish screenshots, it is > not totally clear to me how this works. This feature is also provided by apturl in Ubuntu: http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/apturl apturl seem

Re: ITP: aptlinex -- Web browser addon to install Debian packages with a click

2008-03-10 Thread Joey Hess
Please remind me when this or something similar gets into debian so I can review it for possible inclusion in the desktop task. -- see shy jo signature.asc Description: Digital signature

Bug#470356: ITP: postfwd -- Postfix policyd to combine complex restrictions in a ruleset

2008-03-10 Thread Jan Wagner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: postfwd Version: 1.03 Upstream Author: Jan Peter Kessler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> URL: http://postfwd.org/ License: BSD license Description: Postfix policyd to combine complex r

Re: ITP: ttf-linex -- Free fonts for education and institutions

2008-03-10 Thread Christian Perrier
Quoting José L. Redrejo Rodríguez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Package name: ttf-linex > Version : 2.0 > Upstream Author : Juan José Marcos > URL : http://gata.linex.org/trac/br

Re: ITP: aptlinex -- Web browser addon to install Debian packages with a click

2008-03-10 Thread L. Redrejo
El lun, 10-03-2008 a las 18:00 +0100, Michael Banck escribió: > Hi, > > On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 05:40:16PM +0100, José L. Redrejo Rodríguez wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Package name: aptlinex > > Version

Re: ITP: aptlinex -- Web browser addon to install Debian packages with a click

2008-03-10 Thread L. Redrejo
El mar, 11-03-2008 a las 02:21 +0900, Paul Wise escribió: > On Tue, Mar 11, 2008 at 2:00 AM, Michael Banck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is very interesting! However, from that spanish screenshots, it is > > not totally clear to me how this works. > > This feature is also provided by

Re: ITP: ttf-linex -- Free fonts for education and institutions

2008-03-10 Thread L. Redrejo
El lun, 10-03-2008 a las 18:24 +0100, Christian Perrier escribió: > Quoting José L. Redrejo Rodríguez ([EMAIL PROTECTED]): > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: José L. Redrejo Rodríguez <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > Package name: ttf-linex > > Version : 2.0 > > Upst

Re: Best practices for handling API (not ABI) breaks?

2008-03-10 Thread Thomas Viehmann
Hi Daniel, Daniel Burrows wrote: > I'm the maintainer of libsigc++-2.0, a typesafe callback library for > C++. Upstream has just released a new version, 2.2, which preserves the > version 2.0 ABI but is not source-compatible: programs that compiled > against the 2.0 series will break with this

Re: ITP: ttf-linex -- Free fonts for education and institutions

2008-03-10 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, Christian Perrier wrote: This (still quite informal) group tries to gather people maintaining font packages in Debian (and CDDs). "and CDDs" is redundant, because CDDs are included in Debian. Damn, one more point to change the name of the beast because it is terribly missl

Bug#470388: ITP: libxml-rss-simplegen-perl -- A Perl module for easily writing RSS files

2008-03-10 Thread Axel Beckert
Package: wnpp Owner: Axel Beckert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Severity: wishlist * Package name: libxml-rss-simplegen-perl Version : 11.11 Upstream Author : Sean M. Burke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL or Web page : http://search.cpan.org/dist/XML-RSS-SimpleGen/ * License : Artistic or

Re: ITP: ttf-linex -- Free fonts for education and institutions

2008-03-10 Thread Joerg Jaspert
On 11320 March 1977, José "L. Redrejo" Rodríguez wrote: > Description : Free fonts for education and institutions > This package will provide free true type fonts that have been developed > by Juan José Marcos and, later, donated to the gnuLinEx project. > These fonts are very focused on ed

Notice spam

2008-03-10 Thread Adam Borowski
On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 10:16:28PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > Please keep the "free" out of the description(s). Thats already pretty > clear thanks to the archive it should be uploaded to. In a vaguely related matter, please join me in mumbling curses towards advertising clauses like GPL2 3c an

Bug#470365: [needs-packaging] mod_auth_cas

2008-03-10 Thread Craig Andrews
package: libapache2-mod-auth-cas Can someone please package mod_auth_cas? The package name would be libapache2-mod-auth-cas. mod_auth_cas is an Apache 2.0/2.2 compliant module that supports the CASv1 and CASv2 protocols. CAS is a popular centralized authentication provider. We're considering usi

Bug#470396: ITP: haskell-vty -- Terminal interface library for Haskell

2008-03-10 Thread Eric Warmenhoven
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Eric Warmenhoven <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * Package name: haskell-vty Version : 3.0.0 Upstream Author : Stefan O'Rear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> * URL : http://members.cox.net/stefanor/vty/ * License : BSD Programming Lang: Haskell

Re: Notice spam

2008-03-10 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Montag 10 März 2008 schrieb Adam Borowski: > Please, if a package you maintain emits spam like "this is free" or such > when not asked, consider fixing this annoyance. And consider that most of the software also runs on other systems, even Windows. HS

Re: Bits from the Security Team

2008-03-10 Thread Don Armstrong
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008, Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > If you're opening a ticket for a security problem which is publicly > known, e.g. if it's announced on the project web site, please open a > ticket in the "Security" queue. These issues will be visible > publicly. Is there any particular reason why