Hi,
The buildd log pages, e.g. [1], used to be sorted by package version
(or maybe build date). However that is no longer the case.
Can this be fixed? The current situation is less than useful since
the latest build is buried in other output.
Thanks,
-Steve
[1]
* Norbert Preining [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
On Di, 28 Okt 2008, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could you please remove my email address: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - or the
short version [EMAIL PROTECTED] from all parts from of your web portal?
In particular, I found it here:
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008, Ben Finney wrote:
I ackowledge that the current requirements of the social contract
as it's worded and intended require us to ship the source code of
the lib/firmware blobs.
Simply because anything that we ship as part of Debian must be
DFSG-free.
Yes; we agree
[This doesn't affect the actual issue, so redirected to just -devel
again]
Neil Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Stefano Avallone [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
while trying to install kdesvn from experimental, I got the following
error:
Please report a bug against kdesvn - severity important
On Mi, 29 Okt 2008, Charles Plessy wrote:
there have been cases in the past showing that sometimes our mailing lists
have
a particular attention from email harvesters. It is therefore not so
surprising
that we have complains like the one you answered to: some addresses stay
But then he
Le Wednesday 29 October 2008 11:17:57 Norbert Preining, vous avez écrit :
Anyone with a decent intelligent approach would ask the list masters,
admins, whoever, and NOT post again on debian-devel.
I think that Charles meant that, even though someone makes a naive request for
which you -- and I
Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Of course, producing a Debian including free firmwares would be
superior than producing a Debian which ships non-free firmwares,
but the actual option at hand is producing a Debian without the
firmwares.
Since the Social Contract promises Debian
On Mi, 29 Okt 2008, Romain Beauxis wrote:
give a rude answer, or worse, insult him.
Just to make it clear, I had private email conversation with him and he
agreed on all points.
Best wishes
Norbert
---
Dr. Norbert
Max Kellermann wrote:
What do you all think?
+1 from me. We are already maintaining our packages in a (private)
subversion repository which we could (and should) move to Alioth. Of
course it's a good idea to have a bigger team, since I am an
unofficial Debian maintainer, and sometimes
Faidon Liambotis schrieb am Wednesday, den 29. October 2008:
Max Kellermann wrote:
What do you all think?
+1 from me. We are already maintaining our packages in a (private)
subversion repository which we could (and should) move to Alioth. Of
course it's a good idea to have a bigger
LinkedIn
shirish Agarwal requested to add you as a connection on LinkedIn:
--
Paul,
I'd like to add you to my professional network on LinkedIn.
- shirish
View invitation from shirish Agarwal
[Teemu Likonen]
1. Debian will remain 100% free
[...] We will never make the system require the use of a
non-free component.
The system doesn't require non-free components; it's just some users
and their hardware that does. Debian cares about the system.
Did you
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
Steve M. Robbins schrieb:
Hi,
The buildd log pages, e.g. [1], used to be sorted by package version
(or maybe build date). However that is no longer the case.
Can this be fixed? The current situation is less than useful since
the
CCing debian-devel
Hi,
An issue has been brought to my attention and I wonder, if this is a bug
or the intended behaviour. For reference see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/medibuntu/+bug/290621.
In this case a package should be removed. In its postrm it calls
update-mime-database, update-mime and
Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
You should report a bug against qa.debian.org / www.debian.org.
Neither of those is the correct contact/package regarding
buildd.debian.org. I guess we don't have a metapackage for w-b and
buildd.d.o. Maybe eventually
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 12:47 -0600, Raphael Geissert wrote:
Peter Palfrader wrote:
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Patrick Matthäi wrote:
You should report a bug against qa.debian.org / www.debian.org.
Neither of those is the correct contact/package regarding
buildd.debian.org. I guess we
Daniel Leidert wrote:
If I understand this case correctly then the problem is quite likely that
this message
Unknown media type in type '...'
is output to stdout instead of stderr.
Programs/scripts that have to be able to run under debconf are not allowed
to output to or read input from
Frans Pop [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Daniel Leidert wrote:
If I understand this case correctly then the problem is quite likely that
this message
Unknown media type in type '...'
is output to stdout instead of stderr.
Programs/scripts that have to be able to run under debconf are not
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008, Peter Palfrader wrote:
Neither of those is the correct contact/package regarding
buildd.debian.org. I guess we don't have a metapackage for w-b and
buildd.d.o. Maybe eventually that will be fixed.
If whoever would be responsible for it files a wishlist bug asking for
it to
Am Mittwoch, den 29.10.2008, 20:30 +0100 schrieb Frans Pop:
Daniel Leidert wrote:
If I understand this case correctly then the problem is quite likely that
this message
Unknown media type in type '...'
is output to stdout instead of stderr.
Programs/scripts that have to be able to
--
Robin Fleischer
Team Supermoto Erzgebirge
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To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
with a subject of unsubscribe. Trouble? Contact [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Wed, 29 Oct 2008 21:20:29 +0100
Team Supermoto Erzgebirge [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Nothing, according to apt-file and packages.debian.org - at least in
unstable.
Besides, debian-devel is the wrong list - try debian-user and provide
the output of 'which ginstall' in your question.
--
Neil
On Tue, Oct 28, 2008 at 8:38 AM, Simon Richter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
At least, that's my understanding of some of the use cases presented
here: that even the vendors of those blobs routinely modify the binary
blob directly to generate a new version of it, much like
bit-manipulating a
Right. This is getting somewhat beyond my knowledge of debconf internals,
but here is what happens.
Daniel Leidert wrote:
You don't need more. For some reason Make me fail. is given as
argument to the debconf confmodule:
The full debug log and the sourced confmodule file fairly clearly show
Am Mittwoch, den 29.10.2008, 23:21 +0100 schrieb Frans Pop:
Right. This is getting somewhat beyond my knowledge of debconf internals,
but here is what happens.
Daniel Leidert wrote:
[..]
The full debug log and the sourced confmodule file fairly clearly show
what happens.
First thanks for
Hi,
Steve M. Robbins wrote:
The buildd log pages, e.g. [1], used to be sorted by package version
(or maybe build date). However that is no longer the case.
It seems that build.php relies on the results of opendir/readdir to be
in order and that assumption not being valid anymore.
Can this
On 28 Oct, 2008, Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Le mardi 28 octobre 2008 à 14:12 -0200, Alexandre Oliva a écrit :
I hope the prevalent interpretation of Debian's rules and policies
isn't so lax as to make room for such manipulation as packaging stuff
in main that belongs in contrib
Loïc Minier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008, Ben Finney wrote:
Since the Social Contract promises Debian *won't* ship non-free
things, that's not an option compatible with the promises made by
the Debian project.
I might not have said it clearly enough:
- I agree the
Hello Ben and *,
Am 2008-10-27 18:31:25, schrieb Ben Finney:
If so, I don't get it either.
If we use the ???preferred form of the work for making modifications to
it??? definition of source code, what is the form that best meets that
definition?
What form of the work do the copyright
Am 2008-10-27 10:10:19, schrieb Neil Williams:
Because that's how the hardware works. If you are making a widget and
you need a fpga or hybrid chip of any sort, then you generate a binary
blob using the chip manufacturers tools.
Are these chip manufacturer tools physical tools/machines or
Am 2008-10-28 12:41:31, schrieb Ben Finney:
Jeff Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Usually it's whatever the chip manufacturer provides.
;-)
That doesn't seem to address my question. Here, ???the copyright
holders??? means the copyright holders in the work under question; i.e.
the work whose
Am 2008-10-28 02:45:31, schrieb Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo:
If it's not clear by now, people are not arguing that hardware should
not be used if it is not free hardware (either it is feasible or not to
distribute or exist source code). The matter is whether source for code
that will not
Am 2008-10-28 09:33:07, schrieb Tristan Seligmann:
Again, assuming I'm not misspeaking, that form of the work is already
what we have.
ACK ;-)
Thanks, Greetings and nice Day/Evening
Michelle Konzack
Systemadministrator
24V Electronic Engineer
Tamay Dogan Network
Debian
Hi Jeff,
Am 2008-10-27 12:26:31, schrieb Jeff Carr:
Some modern devices let the OS load this code
into the chip then we are able to write fully GPL drivers for the
device.
This sounds a little bit weird...
What does have the FIRMWARE to do with a DEVICE DRIVER?
The FIRMWARE is intend to be
Am 2008-10-29 00:39:40, schrieb Ben Hutchings:
How exactly do you propose to load the firmware, if not through a JTAG
port? Back in the world of production hardware which Debian runs on,
ASICs tend to have power-on-reset logic built-in...
Most PCI hardware has a very small bootloader which
Am 2008-10-27 17:01:50, schrieb Felipe Sateler:
Jeff Carr wrote:
But the opencore case is the easy case, hybrid chips don't even have
source. The firmware blob is often generated when you fabricate the
chip changes with the physical board layout. You guys just don't
understand the
Am 2008-10-28 10:00:31, schrieb Lennart Sorensen:
Debian's policy is not insane. It is consistent. Any hardware maker
that wants their hardware to work with free software could use an
eeprom to store the firmware within the device, so that there is nothing
non-free that has to be
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 22:33 +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
Anw what do you do with sourcode, for which there is not even a
compiler
availlable under Linux/BSD? And you HAV to buy a 8000 US$
development
suit from the chip manufacturer to build the firmware?
Free software is an iterative
On Wed, 2008-10-29 at 15:15 +0100, Loïc Minier wrote:
On Wed, Oct 29, 2008, Ben Finney wrote:
Since the Social Contract promises Debian *won't* ship non-free
things, that's not an option compatible with the promises made by the
Debian project.
I might not have said it clearly enough:
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