Bonjour,
J'ai un projet [1] sur alioth depuis un moment. Le projet utilise les
ressources fournis par gforge.
J'ai découvert aujourd'hui que certains projets sur alioth utilisent
trac [2], comme le projet jppy [3] par exemple.
Je voudrais savoir si il y a une procédure spéciale pour
Am 2008-11-08 07:35:02, schrieb Robert Collins:
On Fri, 2008-11-07 at 20:01 +, David Given wrote:
2. For at least some of these devices, even if the source code was
available it would add no value, because of legal restrictions
governing
which firmware blobs can be used on that
Ben Finney (2008-11-09 10:54 +1100) wrote:
We don't distribute non-free *anything* in Debian. That's what our
users are promised, at any rate.
Yes, this claim has been repeated many times, but as a thought-exercise
let us be more concrete: who exactly are those users who have been
promised? I
Am 2008-11-08 00:20:52, schrieb Ben Finney:
Are you saying that EU law makes the vendor liable *only* in the case
where the copyright license to the firmware permits the recipient to
modify and redistribute, but *does not* make the vendor liable if the
license doesn't allow this?
It seems it
Am 2008-11-06 01:45:47, schrieb Faidon Liambotis:
That's also false. You can easily jam cellphones using equipment bought
from your local radio shop.
There are even (perfectly legal) commercial products that do exactly that.
Maybe in the USNA, but not in Europe... (at least Germany and France)
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 00:39:26 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
So if people think that they are going to be able to get firmware in
source form so that popular wireless chips can be driven using 100% DFSG
pure firmware, I suspect they will have a very long wait ahead of them.
The issue is that
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the proposal is to delay the release to make sure that **all** bits
are moved into the non-free section, what about the debian
installation CD itself? If it is true that __Debian__ never includes
any DFSG bits, I would
Le Thu, Nov 06, 2008 at 10:34:48PM +0900, Junichi Uekawa a écrit :
Hi,
This is a short note to tell you all about what kind of events are
happening in Japan. Please tell me if there is a more suitable list or
alias to send this to.
Hi Junichi,
how about [EMAIL PROTECTED] Although it does
Le samedi 08 novembre 2008 à 18:55 -0500, Theodore Tso a écrit :
And as I said, I think we should let the DFSG hard-liners win. Let's
yank all of the binaries that require a firmware, and release Lenny
as-is. If that causes some users switch to some fork that actually
has a kernel that works
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:33 PM, Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here's an interesting problem with DFSG-free firmware such as those
created by the FreeMAC project (for prism54 cards): if they never get FCC-
certified, is it legal for Debian to distribute them?
That would be something for
tag 504758 + help
thanks
Raphael Geissert, 2008-11-06 15:42:52 -0600 :
Package: gforge-plugins-extra
Severity: serious
Version: 4.7~rc2-5
Tags: security
Hi,
By taking a look at the list of files shipped by
gforge-plugins-extra I can easily see several scripts which are
already in the
On Sat, Nov 08, 2008 at 10:24:16PM -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
Neither does it (currently) contain an exception for debian.org
machines, or very popular Dell machines with Broadcom ethernet
firmware. Great! Cut them off!! Let's see how quickly we can get
users moving to
* Michelle Konzack [EMAIL PROTECTED] [081109 09:31]:
Now the original soucre is worthless and can be distributed WITH the
firmware blob. The license for the source and the blob must say clearly
that ONLY the blob is certified und permited to use on the device.
If now there is a hacker
Ansgar Burchardt wrote:
Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Open sourcing certain firmware might make it easier for 'random script
kid' to just try some things out and accidentally causing problems to
innocent bystanders.
How is this different from open source software? This sounds a bit like
the
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:30 PM, Sam Morris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd prefer to see firmware in a separate section, because it will be
easier to get that section enabled by default for new installs. This will
mean that the installer, or something hooked up to udev/hal, etc., will
be able to
On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 22:24:16 -0800, Thomas Bushnell BSG wrote:
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 00:39 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
And none of this is really relevent: the DFSG and the Social Contract
do not contain an exception for dishonest or scared hardware
manufacturers, or stupid FCC policies.
2008/11/7 Josselin Mouette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Another approach is to find out what files are necessary for compiling
plugins. Theoretically, you don't need the C++ sources, only the headers
and maybe some static libraries. Then, you can ship all of this in a
qutim-devel package, and modify the
Hi there!
On Sun, 09 Nov 2008 13:37:24 +0100, Paul Wise wrote:
On Sun, Nov 9, 2008 at 8:55 PM, Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If the proposal is to delay the release to make sure that **all** bits
are moved into the non-free section, what about the debian
installation CD itself? If it
Hi,
On Sunday 09 November 2008 13:37, Paul Wise wrote:
The images don't include non-free stuff, but they do allow loading
non-free firmware. Joey Hess blogged about how it works here:
http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/d-i_firmware_loading/
So all we need is just a download location for
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Charles Plessy [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Package name: bioperl-run
Version : 1.5.2.100
Upstream Author : Bioperl Team [EMAIL PROTECTED]
URL : http://www.bioperl.org/wiki/Run_package
License : Same as Perl
Programming
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 08:28:16PM +0100, Johannes Wiedersich wrote:
Josselin Mouette wrote:
Being in favor of open-sourcing firmwares (including those controlling
critical security devices in cars) does not mean being in favor of
letting anyone ship their own version. In such cases, there
I have two systems. Both track unstable, and have package
locales at version 2.0.16.
On one system, package locales owns /etc/default/locale, on the other,
it doesn't. Should the file be owned by locales or not?
Could the situation arise by upgrades? One system is 4 years old
(upgraded
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 06:55 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
Because according to you, Debian isn't allowed to ship any non-free
bits, right?
No, not right. Please pay attention.
Thomas
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2008/11/9 Vincent Fourmond [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
This makes it look like it is not possible to switch from the original
archive to any other kind of archive. So you cannot distribute it as a
Debian package. Drop it ;-)...
Thank you. That's a pity, but I have to deal with it. :)
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Hello,
Всеволод Величко wrote:
May be, you can help me with the following?
which CC licenses are treated as DFSG compatible now? Could someone read
this license:
http://pastebin.com/m4ba1c5ed and say, can I package smile pack, which uses
this license,
for the non-free section, or it'll
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 17:24 +0100, Vincent Fourmond wrote:
Hello,
Всеволод Величко wrote:
May be, you can help me with the following?
which CC licenses are treated as DFSG compatible now? Could someone read
this license:
http://pastebin.com/m4ba1c5ed and say, can I package smile pack,
On Sun, 2008-11-09 at 09:43 -0600, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
I have two systems. Both track unstable, and have package
locales at version 2.0.16.
On one system, package locales owns /etc/default/locale, on the other,
it doesn't. Should the file be owned by locales or not?
I have question
On 2008-11-09 16:43 +0100, Steve M. Robbins wrote:
I have two systems. Both track unstable, and have package
locales at version 2.0.16.
On one system, package locales owns /etc/default/locale, on the other,
it doesn't. Should the file be owned by locales or not?
It shouldn't, but on my
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 09:25:18AM +0100, Michelle Konzack wrote:
So the only option for Ben ist, to send the corrected source back to
the manufacturer and ask him to test and relicense it...
The problem is, that certifying cost up to 40.000 Euro and re-certifying
arround 10-15.000 Euro.
On Sun, Nov 09, 2008 at 01:23:03PM -0600, Debian Project Secretary wrote:
,[ Proposal 4 ]
| Debian's priorities are our users and free software. We don't trade
| them against each other. However during getting an release out of the
| door, decisions need to be done how to get a rock
Hello,
I am Arshavin Igor Andreevich, I work with a company that is into oil and gas
distribution here in Russia, we are looking for a trustworthy representative in
the united states that will aid as a link between our company and our clients
over there in United states,Canada and Germany
Joey Hess wrote:
http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/d-i_firmware_loading
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/
I'm not sure what to do about both the Debian project being generally
unaware of functionality already present in Debian. Document it better?
It's also
2008/11/9 Martin Meredith [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Or, put the rar file in a tarball, and it qualifies for non-free if it's
REALLY important to have it available.
Wow, it's really interesting idea :) Hopefully, I'll have no need in this.
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On Nov 08, Theodore Tso [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
So while I am personally of the DFSG only makes sense for executable
*software* that runs on the host CPU, previous GR's have shown that
this position has a distinct minority. So why not let the DFSG
hard-liners win this one completely? The
http://kitenet.net/~joey/blog/entry/d-i_firmware_loading
http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/
I'm not sure what to do about both the Debian project being generally
unaware of functionality already present in Debian. Document it better?
Wet fishes applied to anyone who
On Sat, 2008-11-08 at 14:11 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
On Fri, Nov 07, 2008 at 12:47:01PM +, David Given wrote:
In which case things have changed within the past couple of years ---
after all, the whole purpose of the Atheros HAL was to inforce those FCC
limits. Do you have any
Steve M. Robbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have two systems. Both track unstable, and have package
locales at version 2.0.16.
On one system, package locales owns /etc/default/locale, on the other,
it doesn't. Should the file be owned by locales or not?
Could the situation arise by
Hi,
At this point, the following people have sponsored and seconded
the proposals detailed below. As best I can tell, the final proposal
(4) to get enough sponsors got it at Sun, 9 Nov 2008 14:38:41 UTC.
So, we now have a discussion period of two weeks, though I would
prefer
Frank Lin PIAT [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[]
I have question which is directly related: shouldn't a package own and
declare all the configuration files that it uses, even if it doesn't
install or modify it?
[...]
No. Not all configuration files can be managed as dpkg conffiles.
cu andreas
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