finally purged debconf items with no owners

2009-02-03 Thread jidanni
I have finally figured out how to remove the items with no owners from the debconf database. It took the fancy Makefile below, created by reverse engineering the extremely complicated debconf system as far as I was able. The big problem is that it is an extreme mystery how to do just # debconf-wh

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Ben Finney
Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo writes: > The message you quoted is from Daniel Berrange, not me. You're right. I should have read more carefully. > Could you also tell your rationale for not agreeing with /? The bar for adding new required entries to the root directory is now very high. The fac

Re: Release Candidate 2 of Debian Installer

2009-02-03 Thread William Pitcock
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 23:43 +0100, Harald Braumann wrote: > On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:35:48 +0900 > Paul Wise wrote: > > > How about letting the person doing the installation write the labels > > if they want to use LABEL and use UUID by default. > > > Or as a third option, put everything in LVM, in

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Harald Braumann
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 15:40:39 -0800 Paul Menage wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Harald Braumann > wrote: > > > > So, what's the problem with /dev/cgroups then? If shm/ and pts/ > > are allowed under /dev, wouldn't it be discriminating against > > cgroups/, to not allow it there? > > Righ

Re: piuparts offline

2009-02-03 Thread jidanni
> "LN" == Lucas Nussbaum writes: LN> - using a local cache/proxy, such as approx, that would have the .debs LN> you need if you first run piuparts online once on the packages you are LN> interested in, before running it offline. I used to run apt-get through WWWOFFLE, but then thought th

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Menage
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 3:38 PM, Harald Braumann wrote: > > So, what's the problem with /dev/cgroups then? If shm/ and pts/ > are allowed under /dev, wouldn't it be discriminating against > cgroups/, to not allow it there? Right, that's what I proposed a couple of emails earlier in this thread. P

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Harald Braumann
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 11:14:03 -0800 Paul Menage wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:51 AM, sean finney > wrote: > > or /proc/bus/usb or /dev/shm or /dev/pts... :) > > > > /dev is a bit different though - even if it's mounted as a udev fs, > you can create a new directory in there to act as a mount

Re: Release Candidate 2 of Debian Installer

2009-02-03 Thread Harald Braumann
On Tue, 3 Feb 2009 12:35:48 +0900 Paul Wise wrote: > How about letting the person doing the installation write the labels > if they want to use LABEL and use UUID by default. > Or as a third option, put everything in LVM, including boot and root, and the problem goes away. GRUB2 would have to be

urgent RFH: please help test mdadm 2.6.7.2-1

2009-02-03 Thread martin f krafft
I found a bit of time to package up mdadm 2.6.7.2-1, which fixes two RC bugs, but I cannot test it. I've built unofficial packages for i386 and amd64 and put them at http://debian.madduck.net/repo/pool/main/m/mdadm/ so please try them out if you can, otherwise I won't be able to upload them soo

Best practises in team-maintaining packages - summary of the BOFs at DebConf8

2009-02-03 Thread gregor herrmann
Best practises in team-maintaining packages - summary of the BOFs at DebConf8 = Preface --- * First of all please accept my apologies - I promised to write this summary shortly after DebConf but ... * I'm posting th

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Menage
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 10:51 AM, sean finney wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: >> > Having one virtual filesystem mounted on top of another virtual >> > filesystem seems like a recipe for problems. >> >> Like with /sys/fs/fuse/connections ? Come on, there is no

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread sean finney
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 07:49:15PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > Having one virtual filesystem mounted on top of another virtual > > filesystem seems like a recipe for problems. > > Like with /sys/fs/fuse/connections ? Come on, there is no problem with a > virtual filesystem mounted on top of anot

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 08:55:34AM -0800, Paul Menage wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Gustavo Noronha wrote: > > On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 23:44 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > >> I agree with all that Thadeu Lima says here. I would add that cgroups > >> are nothing to do with device nodes, so def

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread John H. Robinson, IV
Paul Menage wrote: > > Having one virtual filesystem mounted on top of another virtual > filesystem seems like a recipe for problems. /dev/cgroup or > /dev/cgroup/ sounds more reasonable to me (although if > anyone is still using devfs that would suffer from the same drawbacks) I was leaning towa

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Paul Menage
On Tue, Feb 3, 2009 at 6:38 AM, Gustavo Noronha wrote: > On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 23:44 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: >> I agree with all that Thadeu Lima says here. I would add that cgroups >> are nothing to do with device nodes, so definitely don't belong in >> '/dev/' either. >> >> Since they're a file

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Bill Nottingham
Gabor Gombas (gomb...@sztaki.hu) said: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:24:16AM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > > > Putting new mount points in / is not really acceptable, so that rules > > out the first two. /opt is just totally wrong, since that is intended > > for add on software packages. /dev

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Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Gustavo Noronha
On Tue, 2009-02-03 at 23:44 +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > I agree with all that Thadeu Lima says here. I would add that cgroups > are nothing to do with device nodes, so definitely don't belong in > ‘/dev/’ either. > > Since they're a filesystem mapping “for browsing and manipulation > from user spac

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Gabor Gombas
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:24:16AM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > Putting new mount points in / is not really acceptable, so that rules > out the first two. /opt is just totally wrong, since that is intended > for add on software packages. /dev/ feels a little odd, since it is > not really dev

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:30:28AM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > Sorry. I didn't mean to imply that libvirt or Fedora did anything in > respect to the mountpoint themselves. But that they are supporting or > planning to support cgroups. And I think that one time we will need to > so

Re: Release Update: d-i RC2 and deep freeze; handling of remaining RC bugs; *-reports and release notes

2009-02-03 Thread Nicolay DIMITROV
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Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 11:44:00PM +1100, Ben Finney wrote: > "Daniel P. Berrange" writes: > > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 07:41:53PM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo > > wrote: > > > So, we have some more options now: /cgroups, /containers, > > > /dev/cpuset, /dev/cpuctl, /opt/cgroup, /opt/cp

Bug#514013: ITP: libconfig-model-openssh-perl -- Graphical editor for OpenSsh sshd_config and ssh_config files

2009-02-03 Thread Dominique Dumont
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dominique Dumont * Package name: libconfig-model-openssh-perl Version : 1.203 Upstream Author : Dominique Dumont * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Config-Model-OpenSsh/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: Perl Desc

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Ben Finney
"Daniel P. Berrange" writes: > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 07:41:53PM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > > So, we have some more options now: /cgroups, /containers, > > /dev/cpuset, /dev/cpuctl, /opt/cgroup, /opt/cpuset. > > Putting new mount points in / is not really acceptable, so that

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo
On Tue, Feb 03, 2009 at 10:24:16AM +, Daniel P. Berrange wrote: > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 07:41:53PM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > > From what I've seen, most of them are in the same phases as Debian, or, > > perhaps, behind. Fedora seems to plan that for Fedora 11, and they hav

Re: cgroup mount point

2009-02-03 Thread Daniel P. Berrange
On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 07:41:53PM -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 09:52:46PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2009 at 09:26:11PM +0100, Julien Cristau wrote: > > > On Mon, 2009-02-02 at 18:00 -0200, Thadeu Lima de Souza Cascardo wrote: > > > > Hel