Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 05:40:58PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Rene Engelhard wrote: > > > Shouldn't checking if Build-Depends are satisfiable in stable be enough? > > > And if it doesn't build that way, I'd say there's a bug in the package > > > anyways, because it should b

/var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-09-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, currently munin ships some file(s) in /var/www/munin/ and also puts its generated graphs there. This location has been depracted and we, the munin maintainers, would like to come up with a new location for squeeze. The way I read http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVI

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-09-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Holger Levsen writes: > currently munin ships some file(s) in /var/www/munin/ and also puts its > generated graphs there. This location has been depracted and we, the > munin maintainers, would like to come up with a new location for > squeeze. > The way I read > http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-09-27 Thread sean finney
hi holger, russ, On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 12:36:43AM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: > Holger Levsen writes: > > > currently munin ships some file(s) in /var/www/munin/ and also puts its > > generated graphs there. This location has been depracted and we, the > > munin maintainers, would like to come

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-09-27 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Sean, On Sonntag, 27. September 2009, sean finney wrote: > > > currently munin ships some file(s) in /var/www/munin/ and also puts its > > > generated graphs there. This location has been depracted and we, the > > > munin maintainers, would like to come up with a new location for > > > squeeze.

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-09-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Holger Levsen writes: >> i would recommend similar, but with the modification that you use a >> dedicated subdirectory (i.e. /usr/share/munin/site), so that you still >> have /usr/share/munin for other uses as well. > Thats for read-only data only. Right, you take the static data shipped with t

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sat, 26 Sep 2009, Russ Allbery wrote: > Paul Wise writes: > > http://lintian.debian.org/tags/redundant-origin-field.html > > When I asked the dpkg developers about that, I think the answer was that > dpkg's use was intended as an example of correct use. Yes, but we also plan to auto-add the O

Re: DEP-3 update: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009, Paul Wise wrote: > Hmm, in the examples, I would expect that the Origin/Bug/Bug-Debian > fields would be before the Subject field. If they aren't then I would > have thought they were part of the long description. Did you read the changes about the structure ? It explains tha

different .diff.gz for different platforms (armel) prohibiting upload

2009-09-27 Thread Steffen Moeller
Hello, my non-free package mgltools-molkit built nicely everywhere, but the armel could yet not be uploaded - blocking the autodocktools to arrive in testing. I tried to help it out with my OpenMoko running Debian, and while it builds, I cannot upload since the .diff.gz generated by dpkg-buildpac

Re: different .diff.gz for different platforms (armel) prohibiting upload

2009-09-27 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Sun, 27 Sep 2009, Steffen Moeller wrote: > I tried to help it out with my OpenMoko running Debian, and while it builds, I > cannot upload since the .diff.gz generated by dpkg-buildpackage -sd is not > bit-identical to the .diff.gz that is in the archive. The unpacked diff.gz > however _is_

Re: different .diff.gz for different platforms (armel) prohibiting upload

2009-09-27 Thread Julien Cristau
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:53:01 +0200, Steffen Moeller wrote: > Hello, > > my non-free package mgltools-molkit built nicely everywhere, but the armel > could yet not be uploaded - blocking the autodocktools to arrive in testing. > > I tried to help it out with my OpenMoko running Debian, and wh

Re: different .diff.gz for different platforms (armel) prohibiting upload

2009-09-27 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > That said uploading missing binaries yourself is not the rigt way forward, > official build daemons must be able to build it and you should work with > buildd maintainers and porters to get your package built (and building). I thought that statement didn't apply to non-

Re: DEP-3 update: Patch Tagging Guidelines

2009-09-27 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 4:51 PM, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > Did you read the changes about the structure ? I did not. > It explains that we can have two sets of fields. The intended scenario for > this change is precisely to respond to this use-case of having a second set > of fields after some d

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-27 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Russ Allbery wrote: > I wonder what's up with all the Gstreamer and Npp fields. Those are used to find the needed package for autocodec installation when you try to reproduce a package with a missing decoder/encoder/whatever (package gnome-codec-install). Cheers, Emilio signature.asc Descripti

safe value for HOME

2009-09-27 Thread Atsuhito Kohda
Hi all, I'm a maintainer of mathematica-fonts which downloads fonts with wget and I got the following bug report. What is a safe value for HOME in this case? > this packages calls wget without first setting HOME to a safe value. This > means that when I do: > > sudo apt-get install mathematica-f

Re: different .diff.gz for different platforms (armel) prohibiting upload

2009-09-27 Thread Steffen Moeller
Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphael Hertzog writes: > >> That said uploading missing binaries yourself is not the rigt way forward, >> official build daemons must be able to build it and you should work with >> buildd maintainers and porters to get your package built (and building). > > I thought that

Re: different .diff.gz for different platforms (armel) prohibiting upload

2009-09-27 Thread Steffen Moeller
Hi Raphael, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > On Sun, 27 Sep 2009, Steffen Moeller wrote: >> I tried to help it out with my OpenMoko running Debian, and while it builds, >> I >> cannot upload since the .diff.gz generated by dpkg-buildpackage -sd is not >> bit-identical to the .diff.gz that is in the archi

Re: Auto Backporting (Was: Backports of scientific packages)

2009-09-27 Thread Michael Banck
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 03:56:00PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote: > On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 12:58:00PM +0200, Manuel Prinz wrote: > > > > Yes. I like the idea but we simply can't rebuild everything from the > > task pages of these blends since there are also tools from KDE or GNOME > > which would me

Re: GObject introspection mini-policy, take 2

2009-09-27 Thread Hendrik Sattler
Am Sonntag 27 September 2009 04:59:38 schrieb Paul Wise: > 2009/9/26 Josselin Mouette : > > 1. Directory layout > > > > GObject-introspection data is generally provided in two formats: > > * XML format in /usr/share/gir-1.0/Foo-X.Y.gir > > * binary format in /usr/lib/girepository-1.0/Foo-

Re: Fields used in packages

2009-09-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 10:46:04AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : > - have dak check those fields (would avoid packages built on ubuntu being > uploaded in debian) Hi Raphaël, That part may not be necessary since it was announced that all packages distributed by Debian will be autobuilt: D

DEB_MAINTAINER_MODE: is it popular and should we document it?

2009-09-27 Thread Charles Plessy
Dear all, in a discussion on how to force network-dependant regression tests (that must be disabled in our build network, but whose result I want to see before uploading), I was suggested by Jonas Smedegaard, who got this idea from Romain Beauxis, to use a DEB_MAINTAINER_MODE environment variable

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Thu, Sep 24, 2009 at 05:37:03PM +0200, Francesco P. Lovergine wrote: > What about moving those packages under a transitional Section in the > archive? That would allow users to easily detect and remove them > after dist-upgrades for instance, and it would also allow maintainers > to mark proper

Re: DEB_MAINTAINER_MODE: is it popular and should we document it?

2009-09-27 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-09-27, Charles Plessy wrote: > in a discussion on how to force network-dependant regression tests (that must > be disabled in our build network, but whose result I want to see before > uploading), I was suggested by Jonas Smedegaard, who got this idea from Romain > Beauxis, to use a DEB_MA

Re: DEB_MAINTAINER_MODE: is it popular and should we document it?

2009-09-27 Thread Raphael Geissert
Charles Plessy wrote: > Dear all, > > in a discussion on how to force network-dependant regression tests (that > must be disabled in our build network, but whose result I want to see > before uploading), I was suggested by Jonas Smedegaard, who got this idea > from Romain Beauxis, to use a DEB_MA

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-27 Thread Andreas Metzler
In gmane.linux.debian.devel.general Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: [...] > - Archive section (i.e. Frankie's proposal): would ftp-master (Cc-ed) > be willing to pursue that road? [...] I always thought dummy transitional packages were supposed to be in section oldlibs anyway. cu andreas -- To UNS

Re: /var/www is depracated, which directory to use?

2009-09-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Holger Levsen | The way I read | http://www.pathname.com/fhs/pub/fhs-2.3.html#SRVDATAFORSERVICESPROVIDEDBYSYSTEM | /srv/munin would be the proper location for our purpose, but I know that some | people disagree, claiming that /srv is only to be used by the local admins. | | As I read it

Re: safe value for HOME

2009-09-27 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Atsuhito Kohda | I'm a maintainer of mathematica-fonts which downloads fonts | with wget and I got the following bug report. | What is a safe value for HOME in this case? Make a temporary directory and point $HOME there. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who it

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-27 Thread Vincent Danjean
Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > I see various ways of enabling such recognition: Recognizing transitional packages is only a small part of the problem. You also need to 'move' the 'non-automatic' flags to another package if needed. And I'm not sure there is currently enough information in (transitiona

Bug#548618: ITP: libdeclare-constraints-simple-perl -- Perl module to validate data structures

2009-09-27 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libdeclare-constraints-simple-perl Version : 0.03 Upstream Author : Robert Sedlacek * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Declare

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-27 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 04:30:50PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > > - Status quo: grepping for "transitional package" in package > descriptions > Transitional packages are often not defined as such in description. Too unsafe rely on keyword such as transitional, dummy, what else. This is s

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 07:22:27PM +0200, Vincent Danjean wrote: > Recognizing transitional packages is only a small part of the problem. Agreed. As discussed in my post, that's the part of the problem which I was trying to address. -- Stefano Zacchiroli -o- PhD in Computer Science \ PostDoc @ U

Re: Transitional (dummy) packages considered silly

2009-09-27 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 06:11:13PM +0200, Andreas Metzler wrote: > I always thought dummy transitional packages were supposed to be in > section oldlibs anyway. According to the archive section description, that section is just for transition *libraries* (as the name hints). -- Stefano Zacchirol

zendframework package with or without bin package

2009-09-27 Thread Frank Habermann
Hi folks, i have created the package zendframework and zendframework-bin. The package zendframework contains the php libraries. The bin package contains two scripts with that you can create a mvc environment with the zendframework. This is only important for developers. So my question is, if i

Re: DEB_MAINTAINER_MODE: is it popular and should we document it?

2009-09-27 Thread Felipe Sateler
Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2009-09-27, Charles Plessy wrote: >> in a discussion on how to force network-dependant regression tests (that >> must be disabled in our build network, but whose result I want to see >> before uploading), I was suggested by Jonas Smedegaard, who got this idea >> from Roma

Bug#548643: ITP: libparams-coerce-perl -- Perl module to permit parameter coercion for classes

2009-09-27 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libparams-coerce-perl Version : 0.14 Upstream Author : Adam Kennedy * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Params-Coerce/ * Licens

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-27 Thread Russell Coker
On Sun, 27 Sep 2009, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > For which I am very grateful. The backlash against über-fragile and > over-complex boot environments has already started, and you could see it > really well in LKML (refer for the tmpdevfs threads, for example). > RedHat's initrd has often

Re: The future of the boot system in Debian

2009-09-27 Thread Mike Hommey
On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 03:35:41PM +1000, Russell Coker wrote: > > IME, simple initrds that don't really impact on your hability to boot > > are fine (and great to load firmware, CPU microcode and kernel modules), > > but anything else (like root on lvm or on non-auto-started md arrays) > > will ca