Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> Le Wed, Oct 28, 2009 at 04:02:32PM +0100, Tobi a écrit : > > > > Debian Policy 4.9 says about debian/rules: > > > > "It must start with the line #!/usr/bin/make -f, so that it can be > > invoked by saying its name rather than invoking make explicitly." > > Dear all, > > I also do not understa

Re: What happened to ftp-master.debian.org:NEW ?

2009-10-29 Thread Jan Hauke Rahm
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 09:35:31AM +0300, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: > A few days ago i uploaded a package. but > http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html hasn't contained any information > about it. Last package has a date 26 Oct. Is any script hangs up? http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Schmidt
Am Mittwoch, den 28.10.2009, 19:05 -0500 schrieb Manoj Srivastava: > > The solution we have right now is in some way "elegant", because you have > > only to deal with a standard debian/rules and besides the different > > shebang line there's nothing else to care about. > > Actually, there

Bug#553065: ITP: cfget -- too to read values from config files

2009-10-29 Thread Enrico Zini
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Enrico Zini * Package name: cfget Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Enrico * URL : http://www.enricozini.org/sw/cfget/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : featureful tool to read values from conf

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 28/10/09 at 19:05 -0500, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > Actually, there is. My states makefile can no longer > include debian/rules, because, you see, it is not a makefile. There are > other ways that it does not look like a makefile, walk like a makefile, > or quack like one. The debian/ru

Re: What happened to ftp-master.debian.org:NEW ?

2009-10-29 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
>> A few days ago i uploaded a package. but >> http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html hasn't contained any information >> about it. Last package has a date 26 Oct. Is any script hangs up? JHR> http://lists.debian.org/debian-infrastructure-announce/2009/10/msg3.html JHR> And why didn't you ask

Re: What happened to ftp-master.debian.org:NEW ?

2009-10-29 Thread Frans Pop
Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: > A few days ago i uploaded a package. but > http://ftp-master.debian.org/new.html hasn't contained any information > about it. Last package has a date 26 Oct. Is any script hangs up? See http://blog.ganneff.de/blog/2009/10/27/debian-ftpmaster-meeting.html Cheers, FJP

gcj-4.4: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program ecj1)

2009-10-29 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Hi there, I am starring at: https://buildd.debian.org/~luk/status/package.php?p=gdcm -> https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=gdcm&arch=hppa&ver=2.0.13-1&stamp=1256783874&file=log&as=raw Linking CXX shared library ../../bin/libvtkgdcmJava.so make[3]: Leaving directory `/build/buildd-gdcm_2.

kfreebsd problem

2009-10-29 Thread Francesco P. Lovergine
https://buildd.debian.org/fetch.cgi?pkg=libkml;ver=1.0.1-3;arch=kfreebsd-amd64;stamp=1256787538 I noted that kfreebsd-* are missing python binding generation for libkml. I already forced PYTHON choice at building time (which worked on other archs) but in this case it does not help. Any hints? -

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Michael Tautschnig wrote: > Adhering to a standard actually decreases complexity. What may seem "elegant" > at > first makes it a lot harder for other people to step in. For example, the > VDR-solution IMHO doesn't decrease complexity, it merely hides it. Yes, it indeed hides some complexity. Bu

Re: kfreebsd problem

2009-10-29 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Francesco P. Lovergine (29/10/2009): > I noted that kfreebsd-* are missing python binding generation for > libkml. I already forced PYTHON choice at building time (which > worked on other archs) but in this case it does not help. Any hints? When it comes to missing .so, it might be outdated libt

Re: Submitting bugs for manpage improvements

2009-10-29 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 07:17:53AM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > I have written a small script to make it easy to submit manpage > improvements (it's attached). Hi Franklin, in the end, have you decided where/how to ship this script? I'd personally would like to see it in devscripts ... and I w

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Michael Tautschnig
> Michael Tautschnig wrote: > > > Adhering to a standard actually decreases complexity. What may seem > > "elegant" at > > first makes it a lot harder for other people to step in. For example, the > > VDR-solution IMHO doesn't decrease complexity, it merely hides it. > > Yes, it indeed hides som

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Tobi writes: > Fabian Greffrath wrote: > >> Why not so it the other way round, i.e. start two different scripts (or >> the same script with different parameters) from a debian/rules Makefile >> depending on the environment variable? > > Might be possible, but it would require major changes to deb

Re: gcj-4.4: Internal error: Segmentation fault (program ecj1)

2009-10-29 Thread Frans Pop
Mathieu Malaterre wrote: > I tried reproducing it here on my amd64 box using gcj-4.4 (testing) > and gcc-snapshot but I cannot reproduce it here. I am guessing this is > a hppa only issue. How should I handle that ? The hppa architecture is not 100% stable ATM. People are working hard to improve

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Michael Tautschnig schrieb: In an earlier post you mentioned a pbuilder build process: If that is what you are using, why not go for pbuilder hooks? This would surely be possible, but then the users compiling their own packages will complain :-) @all: Thanks for your technical suggestions! T

Processed: Re: Bug#552694: Laser servo diskette drives have stopped working in Debian Lenny

2009-10-29 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 552694 general Bug #552694 [kernel] Laser servo diskette drives have stopped working in Debian Lenny Warning: Unknown package 'kernel' Bug reassigned from package 'kernel' to 'general'. > -- Stopping processing here. Please contact me i

Processed: Re: Processed: Re: Bug#552694: Laser servo diskette drives have stopped working in Debian Lenny

2009-10-29 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 552694 linux-2.6 Bug #552694 [general] Laser servo diskette drives have stopped working in Debian Lenny Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'linux-2.6'. > # /me is a bit wondering why you reassigned this to general instead to > # th

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 08:02:46AM +0100, Michael Tautschnig a écrit : > > Debian Policy 4.9 guarantees that the behavior of debian/rules will be the > same > if called as either make -f debian/rules or simply debian/rules. Is there any piece of our infrastructure that needs this feature ? If no

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 21:35 +0900, Charles Plessy wrote: > (The source packages needed the format 3.0 (quilt), > for which good news are expected soon.) Already: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=457345 -- Saludos, Felipe Sateler -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ.

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Michael Banck
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:37:20AM +0100, Tobi wrote: > Are there any serious objections against just overriding and ignoring > the Linitan warning about not having "make -f" in the shebang line? As long as you don't have an objection against having serious bugs filed and your packages not be part

Can linux-any arch and friends be used?

2009-10-29 Thread Felipe Sateler
I need to build-depend on a version of libc. Since they have different names in different architectures, I used linux-any kfreebsd-any and hurd-any to avoid spelling the entire list. However, lintian warned me about that. Is it safe to use that (so a bug against lintian is warranted)? Or should I l

ReBuild-Depends?

2009-10-29 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
I have a package which contains a code like following: #include FILE *file_handle; int foo(int something, const char *fmt, ...) { // some statements va_list ap; int res = vfprintf(file_handle, fmt, ap); va_end(ap); return res; } This code works fine by libc wouldn'

Re: ReBuild-Depends?

2009-10-29 Thread James Vega
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: > Could we add 'ReBuild-Depends' statement into debian/control to > rebuild like packages when depends rebuild? But such kind of depends > require some changes in buildd system. This is only needed when the dependencies change something

Re: ReBuild-Depends?

2009-10-29 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
>> Could we add 'ReBuild-Depends' statement into debian/control to >> rebuild like packages when depends rebuild? But such kind of depends >> require some changes in buildd system. JV> This is only needed when the dependencies change something that would JV> require a rebuild, not necessarily ever

Re: ReBuild-Depends?

2009-10-29 Thread Guillem Jover
Hi! On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 18:33:12 +0300, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: > I have a package which contains a code like following: > > #include > > FILE *file_handle; > > int foo(int something, const char *fmt, ...) > { > // some statements > > va_list ap; Seems you are missing a v

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Matthew Johnson
On Thu Oct 29 15:58, Michael Banck wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:37:20AM +0100, Tobi wrote: > > Are there any serious objections against just overriding and ignoring > > the Linitan warning about not having "make -f" in the shebang line? > > As long as you don't have an objection against hav

Re: Can linux-any arch and friends be used?

2009-10-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Felipe Sateler, le Thu 29 Oct 2009 12:12:33 -0300, a écrit : > I need to build-depend on a version of libc. Since they have different > names in different architectures, I used linux-any kfreebsd-any and > hurd-any to avoid spelling the entire list. That won't work for ia64 and alpha which have li

Re: ReBuild-Depends?

2009-10-29 Thread Samuel Thibault
Dmitry E. Oboukhov, le Thu 29 Oct 2009 18:33:12 +0300, a écrit : > I have a package which contains a code like following: > > > > This code works fine by libc wouldn't be rebuilt (new versions, or new > gcc - this moment is ambiguous to me). > Then this code begins segfaulting into this place. >

Re: ReBuild-Depends?

2009-10-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
"Dmitry E. Oboukhov" writes: > I have a package which contains a code like following: > > #include > > FILE *file_handle; > > int foo(int something, const char *fmt, ...) > { > // some statements > > va_list ap; > int res = vfprintf(file_handle, fmt, ap); > va_end(ap); >

Re: ReBuild-Depends?

2009-10-29 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
GJ> On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 18:33:12 +0300, Dmitry E. Oboukhov wrote: >> I have a package which contains a code like following: >> >> #include >> >> FILE *file_handle; >> >> int foo(int something, const char *fmt, ...) >> { >> // some statements >> >> va_list ap; GJ> Seems you a

Re: ReBuild-Depends?

2009-10-29 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
>> I have a package which contains a code like following: >> >> #include >> >> FILE *file_handle; >> >> int foo(int something, const char *fmt, ...) >> { >> // some statements >> >> va_list ap; >> int res = vfprintf(file_handle, fmt, ap); >> va_end(ap); >> return re

Re: Can linux-any arch and friends be used?

2009-10-29 Thread Andres Mejia
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: > I need to build-depend on a version of libc. Since they have different > names in different architectures, I used linux-any kfreebsd-any and > hurd-any to avoid spelling the entire list. However, lintian warned me > about that. Is it safe t

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Joerg Jaspert
> Are there any serious objections against just overriding and ignoring > the Linitan warning about not having "make -f" in the shebang line? It is not an overridable error, and I haven't seen any reason yet to convince me to make it one. You do have some reasons, but none I have seen that would

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-10-29, Joerg Jaspert wrote: > It is not an overridable error, and I haven't seen any reason yet to > convince me to make it one. You do have some reasons, but none I have > seen that would not be simple to do in make directly as well. > > As long as you have those packages wherever, feel f

Re: Can linux-any arch and friends be used?

2009-10-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Andres Mejia writes: > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Felipe Sateler wrote: >> I need to build-depend on a version of libc. Since they have different >> names in different architectures, I used linux-any kfreebsd-any and >> hurd-any to avoid spelling the entire list. However, lintian warned m

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Oct 29 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: > On 2009-10-29, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >> It is not an overridable error, and I haven't seen any reason yet to >> convince me to make it one. You do have some reasons, but none I have >> seen that would not be simple to do in make directly as well. >> >> As

Re: Can linux-any arch and friends be used?

2009-10-29 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-10-29, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > We just had a similar issue (Architecture: linux-any) on irc yesterday > and the outcome was that linux-any will only work post squeeze because > the buildd need to grog that syntax too and run stable outside the > build chroot. However the newer sbuil

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-10-29, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Thu, Oct 29 2009, Philipp Kern wrote: >> On 2009-10-29, Joerg Jaspert wrote: >>> It is not an overridable error, and I haven't seen any reason yet to >>> convince me to make it one. You do have some reasons, but none I have >>> seen that would not be si

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Philipp Kern wrote: > I didn't say that, right? Please don't lay words into my mouth. I said > "here" to specify the concrete case of policy describing the first n bytes > of debian/rules despite the interface being completely in accordance with > the normal procedures (i.e. being a Makefile and

Re: ReBuild-Depends?

2009-10-29 Thread Florian Weimer
* Dmitry E. Oboukhov: > Yes, my first _mail_ contained a mistake, src-code didn't. > > Full code here: http://svn.uvw.ru/mhddfs/trunk/src/debug.c Is this really multi-threaded code? I think you still need to use localtime_r etc. on GNU/Linux. We aren't Solaris (unfortunately). -- To UNSUBSCR

Bug#553270: ITP: Algoscore - GUI for algorithmic composition

2009-10-29 Thread Matthias Klumpp
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: algoscore Version: 081112 Upstream Author: Jonatan Liljedahl URL: http://www.bitminds.net/kymatica/index.php/Software/AlgoScore License: GPL Programming Language: C, Nasal Description: GUI for algori

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Thu, Oct 29 2009, Tobi wrote: > But like Philipp, Lucas or Charles I believe, that the policy is too > specific in requiring a fixed shebang line, instead of just stating, that > debian/rules must be a Makefile which should execute itself when ran as a > binary. What no one has addres

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 15:54 +, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On Thu Oct 29 15:58, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:37:20AM +0100, Tobi wrote: > > > Are there any serious objections against just overriding and ignoring > > > the Linitan warning about not having "make -f" in the she

Re: Switch on compiler hardening defaults

2009-10-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Thu, 29 Oct 2009, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: > On Tue, 2009-10-27 at 22:19 -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > > Well, the issue raised in LKML is that you absolutely should *not* enable > > -fstack-protector-all unless you _really_ know what you're doing, and most > > certainly not

Re: Can linux-any arch and friends be used?

2009-10-29 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Philipp Kern writes: > On 2009-10-29, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> We just had a similar issue (Architecture: linux-any) on irc yesterday >> and the outcome was that linux-any will only work post squeeze because >> the buildd need to grog that syntax too and run stable outside the >> build chr

Re: Submitting bugs for manpage improvements

2009-10-29 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 09:26 +, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: > On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 07:17:53AM +0200, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > > I have written a small script to make it easy to submit manpage > > improvements (it's attached). > > Hi Franklin, > in the end, have you decided where/how to ship t

Re: Switch on compiler hardening defaults

2009-10-29 Thread Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Kees Cook wrote: > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:14:25AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:55:25AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > > > I would like to propose enabling[1] the GCC hardening patches that Ubuntu > > > uses[2]. > > > > How do they work? Do they als

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Tobi
Manoj Srivastava wrote: > If I ahve the magic variables set, and call it as > % make -f ./debian/rules, > I get the standard behaviour. If I turn around and call it as > % ./debian/rules, > I get totally different behaviour. True but if you DON'T set the magic variable, you g

Work-needing packages report for Oct 30, 2009

2009-10-29 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 614 (new: 16) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 151 (new: 3) Total number of packages reques

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Steve Langasek
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 03:54:23PM +, Matthew Johnson wrote: > On Thu Oct 29 15:58, Michael Banck wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:37:20AM +0100, Tobi wrote: > > > Are there any serious objections against just overriding and ignoring > > > the Linitan warning about not having "make -f" in

Re: Switch on compiler hardening defaults

2009-10-29 Thread Kees Cook
On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 10:01:08PM -0200, Henrique de Moraes Holschuh wrote: > On Tue, 27 Oct 2009, Kees Cook wrote: > > On Mon, Oct 26, 2009 at 11:14:25AM +0100, Bastian Blank wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 25, 2009 at 11:55:25AM -0700, Kees Cook wrote: > > > > I would like to propose enabling[1] the GC

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Thu, 2009-10-29 at 17:58 -0700, Steve Langasek wrote: > > > Not true. If you were not familiar with the special script, you > would > > have to read that entire script to understand what it does. OTOH, in > the > > make-only approach it is easier to discard the contents of > > alternate-debian-

Re: debian/rules "make -f" restriction

2009-10-29 Thread Kalle Kivimaa
Tobi writes: > /usr/share/vdr-dev/dependencies.sh. But the shebang simply is nothing to > worry about. May I ask what's the reason you're using this kind of a convoluted system? Wouldn't it be simpler to separate debian/make-special-vdr.sh and debian/rules, and call debian/make-special-vdr.sh dir