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Am Montag, den 23.11.2009, 08:42 +0100 schrieb Raphael Hertzog:
Hi,
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Benjamin Drung wrote:
When a new upstream version is released, I have to check all patches
if
they were accepted by upstream or not. I have to check each patch if
I
can drop it. It would make
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org writes:
Hi,
On Sat, 21 Nov 2009, Mike Hommey wrote:
The modifications are implied, but it means that the source format is
already this heavy modification, on a similarly heavy modification
scale. Additionally, if someone wants to sepearte the patches into
On Tue, Oct 27, 2009 at 03:06:07PM +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
we are turning on lintian based autorejects within the next few days.
This means that packages failing a defined set of lintian tags will no
longer be accepted into the archive, but get rejected immediately.
This should help to get
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Because you want the patch to be clearly identified and to carry its
meta-information. Or because maybe you're applying 2 separate patches in
the same NMU upload.
Fixing cosmetic issues or
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org:
reassign 557431 wnpp
Bug #557431 [general] general: there is no package to install all POSIX
utilities at once
Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'wnpp'.
retitle 557431 RFP: posix-utils
Bug #557431 [wnpp] general: there is no package to
Mike Hommey m...@glandium.org writes:
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 11:30:45AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Sun, 22 Nov 2009, Mike Hommey wrote:
On Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 10:48:14AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
Because you want the patch to be clearly identified and to carry its
Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com writes:
Hi,
When a new upstream version is released, I have to check all patches if
they were accepted by upstream or not. I have to check each patch if I
can drop it. It would make packaging new releases easier if there were
an optional Applied-Upstream
Hi! :)
* Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org [2009-11-22 10:48:14 CET]:
Note that the squeeze release goal only talks about 3.0 (quilt), not 3.0
(native), which kind of suggests 3.0 (quilt) is being forced down.
That's maybe not what you are thinking, but it's how it feels.
Well,
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Well, they can drop the patch in debian/patches, and add it to
the end of debian/patches/series. If quilt is installed, it should
work as dpkg-source will use quilt applied to know
whether patches needs to be applied. If quilt is not
Am Montag, den 23.11.2009, 09:18 +0100 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:
Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com writes:
Hi,
When a new upstream version is released, I have to check all patches if
they were accepted by upstream or not. I have to check each patch if I
can drop it. It would make
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:18:37AM +0100, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com writes:
Hi,
When a new upstream version is released, I have to check all patches if
they were accepted by upstream or not. I have to check each patch if I
can drop it. It would make
Gerfried Fuchs rho...@deb.at writes:
Hi! :)
* Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org [2009-11-22 10:48:14 CET]:
Note that the squeeze release goal only talks about 3.0 (quilt), not 3.0
(native), which kind of suggests 3.0 (quilt) is being forced down.
That's maybe not what you are
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
Actually, I feel rather to convert my packages to 3.0 (native) + quilt.
The way quilt is implied in 3.0 (quilt) doesn't seem to be helpful (to
me).
Yay for reuploading the full tarball for each revision! I'd rather you
keep using 1.0 instead of doing
* Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de [2009-11-23 09:48:36 CET]:
Why do you think that? I can split patches any which way and edit the
debian/patches/series to match all completly without quilt.
How so? I don't find anything in man dpkg or dpkg-source that would
help with that.
It only
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:30:00AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Well, they can drop the patch in debian/patches, and add it to
the end of debian/patches/series. If quilt is installed, it should
work as dpkg-source will use quilt applied
* Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org [2009-11-23 09:50:15 CET]:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
Actually, I feel rather to convert my packages to 3.0 (native) + quilt.
The way quilt is implied in 3.0 (quilt) doesn't seem to be helpful (to
me).
Yay for reuploading the full
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 10:10:51AM +0100, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
* Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org [2009-11-23 09:50:15 CET]:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
Actually, I feel rather to convert my packages to 3.0 (native) + quilt.
The way quilt is implied in 3.0 (quilt)
Hi
I tried to prepare and NMU to fix an RC bug #553111, which is
postinst-must-call-ldconfig.
I found that adding missing call to dh_makeshlibs does not fix the issue,
because package installs a private shared library to /usr/lib/libxxx.so,
and dh_makeshlibs does not add call to ldconfig to
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 13:33:17 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
Hi
I tried to prepare and NMU to fix an RC bug #553111, which is
postinst-must-call-ldconfig.
I found that adding missing call to dh_makeshlibs does not fix the issue,
because package installs a private shared library
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 13:33:17 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko wrote:
Hi
I tried to prepare and NMU to fix an RC bug #553111, which is
postinst-must-call-ldconfig.
I found that adding missing call to dh_makeshlibs does not fix the
issue, because package installs a private shared
Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 14:00 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko a
écrit :
I found that adding missing call to dh_makeshlibs does not fix the
issue, because package installs a private shared library to
/usr/lib/libxxx.so, and dh_makeshlibs does not add call to ldconfig to
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:05:28PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 14:00 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko a
écrit :
I found that adding missing call to dh_makeshlibs does not fix the
issue, because package installs a private shared library to
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 12:05:28PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 14:00 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko a
écrit :
I found that adding missing call to dh_makeshlibs does not fix
the issue, because package installs a private shared library to
Le Sun, Nov 22, 2009 at 09:31:59PM +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko a écrit :
I've just met an uninstallable package with 3-week-old RC bug, caused by
soname change of one of dependences. This bug could be fixed by a simple
rebuild - I've checked if package builds against today's sid - yes it
Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 14:39 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko a
écrit :
I've also seen cases when upstream build system puts some code in
a 'private shared library' which is installed into $prefix/lib, but is
never intended to use outside of current package (and has absolutely
unstable
Dear Nikita,
it is difficult to judge since you did not give the package name.
Nevertheless, the combination of RC bug left unfixed and signs of
obsolescence (package-uses-deprecated-debhelper-compat-version) suggests
that the maintainer might be MIA. If nobody wants to maintain this
How to handle that case, if not putting private library as-is to
/usr/lib ?
Move it to /usr/lib/packagename, and use rpath on binaries? debian
tries to avoid rpath AFAIK ...
Just because we hunt down stupid rpath cases doesn’t mean there aren’t
valid uses for it. And this is precisely
Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com writes:
Am Montag, den 23.11.2009, 09:18 +0100 schrieb Goswin von Brederlow:
Benjamin Drung bdr...@ubuntu.com writes:
Hi,
When a new upstream version is released, I have to check all patches if
they were accepted by upstream or not. I have to check
Gerfried Fuchs rho...@deb.at writes:
* Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de [2009-11-23 09:48:36 CET]:
Why do you think that? I can split patches any which way and edit the
debian/patches/series to match all completly without quilt.
How so? I don't find anything in man dpkg or dpkg-source
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Ezra Reeves ezraree...@gmail.com
* Package name: pep8simulator
Version : 8.1.1
Upstream Author : J. Stanley Warford stan.warf...@pepperdine.edu
* URL : http://code.google.com/p/pep8-1/
* License : GPL
Programming Lang:
Christophe Trophime christophe.troph...@grenoble.cnrs.fr writes:
The license states that Modifications to this software may be copyrighted by
their authors
and need not follow the licensing terms described here, provided that
the new terms are clearly indicated on the first page of each file
I've noticed that for DELAYED/XX uploads, the lintian rejects are
triggered not when the package hits DELAYED/XX, but rather when the
package eventually hits the archive. The annoyance of this is that the
uploader losts focus on the specific fix.
Any chance/plan to fix this so that lintian
I took my time reading DEP3 (http://dep.debian.net/deps/dep3/) and
notice they introduce an new RFC-2822-like format. This time they
introduce an ambiguous rules where either the Description or the
Subject field and contain verbatim data (which one is uncertain to me,
the text implies one of them,
On 2009-11-23, Joerg Jaspert jo...@debian.org wrote:
So for that, yes, you want to think about the dput solution. Which would
have the nice added benefit to actually save people form uploading and
wasting bandwidth and time.
Everybody should pipe his uploads through lintian. That's nothing
Nikita V. Youshchenko yo...@debian.org writes:
How to handle that case, if not putting private library as-is to /usr/lib ?
Move it to /usr/lib/packagename, and use rpath on binaries?
Yes.
debian tries to avoid rpath AFAIK ...
Debian tries to avoid RPATH used in ways that might break
Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 15:30 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko a
écrit :
Moving package-private shared libraries outside of /usr/lib is some amount
of additional work that maintainer has to do.
Yes. This is one of the reasons why there are maintainers instead of
robots.
If it is not a
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Bastian Blank wrote:
I tried 3.0 (quilt) with several packages today and none worked
properly, so several large packages will be stuck with 3.0 (native).
1.0 is not going away even if we change the default.
Bugs as of today.
Won't comment here. I have already commented
Hello,
On pirmadienis 23 Lapkritis 2009 23:35:28 Russ Allbery wrote:
Debian tries to avoid RPATH used in ways that might break multilib or
override local administrator settings, which means we want to avoid RPATH
pointing to /usr/lib or to build directories and the like. But RPATH is
the
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On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 04:12:58PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Am I doing something wrong?
sys11:/home/brian/tree/heimdal# lintian heimdal_1.2.e1.dfsg.1-5_i386.changes
warning: lintian's authors do not recommend running it with root privileges!
internal error: command failed with error code 25
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:50:15AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
For each patch:
- apply patch
- dpkg-buildpackage -S
- rename debian/patches/debian-changes-ver into something else
and edit its headers
- fix debian/patches/series
Note: this works only if quilt is not installed (or
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Brian May wrote:
Next problem:
[...]
dpkg-source -b heimdal-1.3.1.dfsg.1
dpkg-source: info: using source format `3.0 (quilt)'
dpkg-source: warning: patches have not been applied, applying them now (use
--no-preparation to override)
dpkg-source: info: applying all
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 09:30 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
In the end, I decided to trust nothing and to verify if the first
patch can be applied or not. If it can be applied, we assume that the
patches have not been applied and we apply them all (unless
--no-preparation is given). If quilt is
Part of my usual workflow with the 1.0 format is to do an interdiff on
the .diff.gz from the previous version to the one I intend to upload,
to check that the changes correspond to what my vcs says they are. Now
that the changes are in a tarball, are there any recommended tools to
do that
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 01:53:34AM +0100, Carsten Hey wrote:
On Mon, Nov 23, 2009 at 09:50:15AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
For each patch:
- ...
Note: this works only if quilt is not installed (or if you ensure
dpkg-source is called with --without-quilt which you currently can't
Le Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 12:32:40AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog a écrit :
Or you start and propose a different format that can be mostly like 3.0
(quilt) for the result (multiple tars) but without the implicit quilt
constraints.
Not me, no. And people should have requested that 1-2 years ago
Hi!
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 17:28:39 -0800, Rodrigo Gallardo wrote:
Part of my usual workflow with the 1.0 format is to do an interdiff on
the .diff.gz from the previous version to the one I intend to upload,
to check that the changes correspond to what my vcs says they are. Now
that the
Charles Plessy wrote:
Maybe it is because you never wanted to listen to people who were
interested to have the debian directory in a tar.gz, without a patch
system on top of it?
I answered to your feedback request, realised that you were not going to
change
your mind about format ‘3.0
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
That's just wrong. I do it without problems by using the .quiltrc
snippet from /usr/share/doc/quilt/README.source.
Hmm, that is verging on beware of the leopard non-obviousness. I mean,
you just argued in another mail that such a README.source would soon not
be necessary.
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 02:02:02AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Brian May wrote:
Next problem:
[...]
dpkg-source -b heimdal-1.3.1.dfsg.1
dpkg-source: info: using source format `3.0 (quilt)'
dpkg-source: warning: patches have not been applied, applying them now
On So, 22 Nov 2009, Steve Langasek wrote:
and as far as I see:
clean: unpatch
Well, the latter is wrong - this breaks if you're patching the build system.
Ah, good to know, but well, my poiint is that this is a bit a PITA
if the system changes again and again. But that has nothing to do
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 02:30:59PM +1100, Brian May wrote:
Ok, I did the following:
Disregard those results, I screwed up and forgot to cd into the new
working directory after I moved the old one. So it looked OK but
wasn't.
Retry. Hmmm. So far it looks better...
--
Brian May
#include hallo.h
* Josselin Mouette [Tue, Nov 24 2009, 12:00:34AM]:
Le lundi 23 novembre 2009 à 15:30 +0300, Nikita V. Youshchenko a
écrit :
Moving package-private shared libraries outside of /usr/lib is some amount
of additional work that maintainer has to do.
Yes. This is one of the
On Mon, Nov 23 2009, Joey Hess wrote:
Perhaps Raphael in turn was sensing that I didn't have a deep knowledge
of git -- I had only used it for a month or so at the time. And in fact,
we now know a much better way to do a git based format. I have been
considering working on it again, after
Gerfried Fuchs rho...@deb.at writes:
* Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org [2009-11-23 09:50:15 CET]:
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Gerfried Fuchs wrote:
Actually, I feel rather to convert my packages to 3.0 (native) + quilt.
The way quilt is implied in 3.0 (quilt) doesn't seem to be helpful (to
Joey Hess jo...@debian.org writes:
Raphael Hertzog wrote:
That's just wrong. I do it without problems by using the .quiltrc
snippet from /usr/share/doc/quilt/README.source.
Hmm, that is verging on beware of the leopard non-obviousness. I mean,
you just argued in another mail that such a
Bastian Blank wa...@debian.org writes:
On Sat, Nov 21, 2009 at 04:54:36PM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
since a few weeks the Debian archive accepts source package using the new
formats 3.0 (quilt) and 3.0 (native).
I tried 3.0 (quilt) with several packages today and none worked
properly,
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Robert Collins wrote:
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 09:30 +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote:
In the end, I decided to trust nothing and to verify if the first
patch can be applied or not. If it can be applied, we assume that the
patches have not been applied and we apply them all
On Mon, 23 Nov 2009, Joey Hess wrote:
I understand that you do not want to throw away your work on this patch
management system, but by making it optional, I think that you will actually
increase your chances of success…
I think that's very wise.
It is optional already. Just don't make
On Tue, Nov 24, 2009 at 03:43:42AM +0100, Guillem Jover wrote:
Hi!
On Mon, 2009-11-23 at 17:28:39 -0800, Rodrigo Gallardo wrote:
Part of my usual workflow with the 1.0 format is to do an interdiff on
the .diff.gz from the previous version to the one I intend to upload,
to check that the
On Tue, 24 Nov 2009, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Bugs as of today.
* Packages with different patch systems like linux-2.6. In this case
dpkg-source ignores failures to register a patch and produces
sources without the changes. (#557618)
As discussed on IRC this is a matter of false
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