Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-07 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:57:56PM +0100, Dominique Dumont wrote: > A model for Config::Model is to a configuration file what a schema is to an > XML file: a description of the structure and constraint of the semantic data > of the file. Fair enough. So, in your terminology, a model is the sche

Re: Update about "3.0 (quilt)" source format

2009-12-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 07 Dec 2009, Peter Samuelson wrote: > Maybe I missed something from earlier discussion - but why not rename > debian/source/patch-header to debian/patches/debian-changes? (I mean, > dpkg-source would preserve the header when regenerating the file, like > quilt does, right?) No, it cu

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Dec 07 2009, Joe Smith wrote: > I suspect Patrick might be worried about a scenario like the following. > > Lets assume there is a package Foo that depends on and uses > ucf. Further the package is the only one ucing UCF on the system. > > At some point the admin decides to remove Foo. Sin

Bug#559988: ITP: cruisecontrol -- continuous integration and build tool

2009-12-07 Thread Onkar Shinde
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Onkar Shinde * Package name: cruisecontrol Version : 2.8.2 Upstream Author : cruisecontrol-de...@lists.sourceforge.net * URL : http://cruisecontrol.sourceforge.net/ * License : BSD (3 clause) like Programming Lang: Jav

Bug#559987: ITP: libmodule-install-xsutil-perl -- Module::Install extension for handling XS modules

2009-12-07 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libmodule-install-xsutil-perl Version : 0.19 Upstream Author : Goro Fuji * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/Module-Install-XSU

Bug#559984: ITP: libb-hooks-op-annotation-perl -- module to allow annotation and delegation of hooked OPs

2009-12-07 Thread Jonathan Yu
Package: wnpp Owner: Jonathan Yu Severity: wishlist X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org,debian-p...@lists.debian.org * Package name: libb-hooks-op-annotation-perl Version : 0.43 Upstream Author : chocolateboy * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/B-Hooks-OP-Anno

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Joe Smith
I suspect Patrick might be worried about a scenario like the following. Lets assume there is a package Foo that depends on and uses ucf. Further the package is the only one ucing UCF on the system. At some point the admin decides to remove Foo. Since there are no other packages that use ucf o

Re: DEP-5: removed files

2009-12-07 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 12:26:52AM -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit : > On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 03:56:51PM +0100, Thibaut Paumard wrote: > > > I remember that debian/copyright should not only list where the > > source was downloaded from, but also the files which were removed by > > the packager and

Re: New Menu category Applictions/Multimedia

2009-12-07 Thread Paul Wise
On Tue, Dec 8, 2009 at 12:50 AM, Andreas Marschke wrote: > I haven't had the freedesktop.org in mind at the time of writing it but yes it > is infact a reason to do this as well. > The bug is filed and should be open for broader discussion soon. You should have chosen wishlist severity for the b

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-07 Thread Dominique Dumont
Le vendredi 4 décembre 2009 17:48:00, Stefano Zacchiroli a écrit : > Well, reading your posts I understand there is in fact a > misunderstanding. The question mentioned in the reported wiki page has > nothing to do with a debconf question: is the question posed by dpkg > when there is a mismatch be

Re: dh_config_model_upgrade: package upgrade with Config::Model

2009-12-07 Thread Dominique Dumont
Le vendredi 4 décembre 2009 20:08:57, gregor herrmann a écrit : > Since you speak French you might be interested in Dominique's > presentation at some French Perl meeting: > http://fpw2009.ubicast.eu/videos/free/64/ Today, I've recorded today an English version of this presentation (with some enh

Re: Policy conformant conffile handling...

2009-12-07 Thread Frank Küster
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Thu, Dec 03, 2009 at 11:40:06AM +0100, Frank Küster wrote: >> However, and here's the policy-related problem: Of course the admin >> might have changed the default paper for one particular binary >> manually. What should I do in this case? > > [...] > >> - let libpaper'

Re: Bug#559802: CVE-2009-3736 local privilege escalation

2009-12-07 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 08:56:07AM +0100, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote: > >CVE-2009-3736[0]: > >| ltdl.c in libltdl in GNU Libtool 1.5.x, and 2.2.6 before 2.2.6b, > >| attempts to open a .la file in the current working directory, which > >| allows local users to gain privileges via a Trojan horse

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Dec 07 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > Hi, > > (uhm.. I really hate it, if I can't hold the promises to myself I made; > in this case: not further discussing it, but still here is > another answer) > > On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:04:14AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> On Mon, Dec 07 20

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
Hi, (uhm.. I really hate it, if I can't hold the promises to myself I made; in this case: not further discussing it, but still here is another answer) On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 10:04:14AM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > On Mon, Dec 07 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > > > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at

Re: New Menu category Applictions/Multimedia

2009-12-07 Thread Andreas Marschke
Am Montag 07 Dezember 2009 04:35:30 schrieb Paul Wise: > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:34 AM, Andreas Marschke wrote: > > I'm hereby proposing an additional Category for this list of such > > applications called Multimedia. This defines clearer what they are. > > Sounds reasonable to me, this would b

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Mon, Dec 07 2009, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:47:11PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: >> >> In this particular case, what is the harm befalling the user? >> > >> > Well, I don't think that making an Operating System is just about >> > keeping harm away from our

Re: Bug#559802: CVE-2009-3736 local privilege escalation

2009-12-07 Thread Steffen Joeris
Hi > > > The following CVE (Common Vulnerabilities & Exposures) id was > > > published for libtool. I have determined that this package embeds a > > > vulnerable copy of the libtool source code. However, since this is a > > > mass bug filing (due to so many packages embedding libtool), I have n

Re: Bug#559802: CVE-2009-3736 local privilege escalation

2009-12-07 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, 07 Dec 2009 08:56:07 +0100, Stefan Hornburg (Racke) wrote: > Michael Gilbert wrote: > > Package: courier-authlib > > Severity: grave > > Tags: security > > > > Hi, > > > > The following CVE (Common Vulnerabilities & Exposures) id was > > published for libtool. I have determined that this

Re: Update about "3.0 (quilt)" source format

2009-12-07 Thread Peter Samuelson
[Raphael Hertzog] > In the same version, a new option --single-debian-patch has been > created so that people using a VCS can have dpkg-source create and > auto-update a single patch named debian-changes (instead of > debian-changes-version) somewhat similar to what the .diff.gz was in > format 1.

Re: Bug#559774: ITP: modem-cmd -- send arbitrary AT commands to your modem

2009-12-07 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:28:03AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le lundi 07 décembre 2009 à 01:43 +0100, Robert Millan a écrit : > > modem-cmd can be used to send arbitrary AT commands to a modem device > > over a serial line. > > . > > For example: > > . > > $ modem-cmd /dev/ttyUSB0 ATDT

Re: Bug#559774: ITP: modem-cmd -- send arbitrary AT commands to your modem

2009-12-07 Thread Robert Millan
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 02:14:52AM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 01:43 +0100, Robert Millan wrote: > > Package: wnpp > > Severity: wishlist > > Owner: Robert Millan > > > > * Package name: modem-cmd > > Version : 0.0.1 > > Upstream Author : me > > * URL

Update about "3.0 (quilt)" source format

2009-12-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, This is going to be part of the next "Misc Developer News" on d-d-a but since it likely going to take some time until we reach 5 items, I share it on -devel right now. --- Since dpkg 1.15.5.4, dpkg-source creates the .pc directory used by quilt by itself (even if quilt is not available), i

Re: Bug#559802: CVE-2009-3736 local privilege escalation

2009-12-07 Thread Stefan Hornburg (Racke)
Michael Gilbert wrote: Package: courier-authlib Severity: grave Tags: security Hi, The following CVE (Common Vulnerabilities & Exposures) id was published for libtool. I have determined that this package embeds a vulnerable copy of the libtool source code. However, since this is a mass bug fi

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 01:17:30PM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote: > On Sat, Dec 05, 2009 at 12:39:28PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > > There's no reason that ucf *should* fall under either of these rules; so > > even if ucf /didn't/ work the way it does, the right solution here would be > > to f

Re: Has Debian abandoned Python?

2009-12-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 06 décembre 2009 à 22:47 -0800, Steve Langasek a écrit : > Python in Debian is currently in bad shape; on this, there is no > disagreement whatsoever. But it's in bad shape by the measure that *it's > not meeting the needs of our users*, not because of where it stands relative > to Ub

Re: Bug#559774: ITP: modem-cmd -- send arbitrary AT commands to your modem

2009-12-07 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le lundi 07 décembre 2009 à 01:43 +0100, Robert Millan a écrit : > modem-cmd can be used to send arbitrary AT commands to a modem device > over a serial line. > . > For example: > . > $ modem-cmd /dev/ttyUSB0 ATDT123456 I don’t really see the point in packaging a 10-line shell script. OTOH

Re: DEP-5: removed files

2009-12-07 Thread Steve Langasek
Hi Thibaut, On Wed, Dec 02, 2009 at 03:56:51PM +0100, Thibaut Paumard wrote: > I remember that debian/copyright should not only list where the > source was downloaded from, but also the files which were removed by > the packager and the motivation for the removal (DFSG, patents, > large convenien

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Mon, Dec 07, 2009 at 09:08:08AM +0100, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > So one day ucf might be deprecated by dpkg itself. That day will be a good day. Thanks for the news. Regards, Patrick -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? C

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Patrick Schoenfeld
On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 11:47:11PM -0600, Manoj Srivastava wrote: > >> In this particular case, what is the harm befalling the user? > > > > Well, I don't think that making an Operating System is just about > > keeping harm away from our users. > > But it is a tenet of software des

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread sean finney
hiya, On Sun, Dec 06, 2009 at 07:36:18PM -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think there's ongoing work to support debconf prompting for conffiles, but > I don't think there's movement on integrating ucf functionality into dpkg. > ICBW, though. there was some work at some point on integrating debcon

Re: Should ucf be of priority required?

2009-12-07 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Sun, 06 Dec 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > I think there's ongoing work to support debconf prompting for conffiles, but > I don't think there's movement on integrating ucf functionality into dpkg. > ICBW, though. I don't expect progress soon but it's on dpkg's roadmap: http://wiki.debian.org/Tea

Re: Has Debian abandoned Python?

2009-12-07 Thread Frans Pop
On Monday 07 December 2009, Frans Pop wrote: > But when you have a core package maintained by one and the same person, > I do think that that person has a moral obligation to maintain his > package as well and as timely for Debian as he does for Ubuntu. And has an obligation to discuss major chang

Re: Bug#559761: ITP: release -- provides information about the current releases

2009-12-07 Thread Frank Lin PIAT
On Mon, 2009-12-07 at 00:14 +0100, Benjamin Drung wrote: > > * Package name: release The tool isn't about releasing, but about to querying the release. Also, it's about distribution release (not package...). May be a name like {get|query}-distr[o]?-release... or something completely different

Re: Has Debian abandoned Python?

2009-12-07 Thread Frans Pop
Steve Langasek wrote: > No, because it's no longer an objective measure of whether the > maintenance of the package is adequate. Your definition of "adequate" > maintenance is now based on how Debian is doing *compared to* Ubuntu, > which is not a standard that would be used anywhere else! You ar