Re: [Need Help] About file lock in Debian Sarge

2009-12-21 Thread Muhammad H Hilman
Wow, it's work but, must I change the code on my application that needed filelock? because, filelock code on that application stated as ubuntu command (just filelock) as far as I know debian command on filelock is (filelock-create) can you tel me what's the different between (filelock-create) com

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Jean-Christophe Dubacq
Felipe Sateler a écrit : > In this particular case, none. But in the general case there are reasons > to keep the metapackage installed. For example, I want to try out gnome. > So I install the gnome metapackage. I do not want (say) brasero. But I > still want everything removable by just saying a

Bug#562032: ITP: python-figleaf -- Python code coverage analysis

2009-12-21 Thread Milton Mazzarri
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Milton Mazzarri -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 * Package name: python-figleaf Version : 0.6.1 Upstream Author : C. Titus Brown * URL : http://darcs.idyll.org/~t/projects/figleaf/doc/ * License : MIT/X

Re: Debian packages and upstart jobs

2009-12-21 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Russ Allbery dijo [Fri, Dec 11, 2009 at 01:07:21PM -0800]: > (...) > Is there any reason why it would cause problems for me to add an upstart > job to the Debian package, even though Debian doesn't currently use > upstart? (I realize that the logic around deactivating the init script if > upstart

Re: Bug#562009: ITP: python-keyring -- Python module to access the system keyring service

2009-12-21 Thread Michal Čihař
Hi Dne Mon, 21 Dec 2009 23:42:29 +0100 David Paleino napsal(a): > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: David Paleino > > * Package name: python-keyring > Version : 0.2 > Upstream Author : Kang Zhang > * URL : http://home.python-keyring.org/ > * License

Re: Bug#560786: gdb: Please make the python dependency optional

2009-12-21 Thread Daniel Jacobowitz
Picking some arbitrary messages in this thread to respond to. On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 03:30:20AM +1030, Ron wrote: > I do appreciate, and share, your concern for not bloating the archive > needlessly, but my concern is balancing that against the needs of small > Debian systems, where the extra dep

Re: Bug#562009: ITP: python-keyring -- Python module to access the system keyring service

2009-12-21 Thread David Paleino
On Monday 21 December 2009 23:56:52, Michal Čihař wrote: > This package is already in Debian: > > http://packages.debian.org/sid/python-keyring Err, oops. I must have mistyped something, then. Sorry for the noise. (and not the first time today I make such mistakes. Maybe it's time to go to bed)

Bug#562009: ITP: python-keyring -- Python module to access the system keyring service

2009-12-21 Thread David Paleino
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: David Paleino * Package name: python-keyring Version : 0.2 Upstream Author : Kang Zhang * URL : http://home.python-keyring.org/ * License : PSF Programming Lang: Python Description : Python module to access the s

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Emilio Pozuelo Monfort
Thomas Goirand wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: >> In this scenario, with Recommends installed by default (the only sane >> model), the vast majority of metapackage dependencies are moved from Depends >> to Recommends, so you can remove those Recommends manually without forcing >> removal of the meta

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread George Danchev
David Paleino writes: > Rene Engelhard wrote: > > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:35PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > >> However, seems like on IRC we reached kind of a consensus on the fact > >> that metapackages should use Recommends instead of Depends. I plan to do > >> a mass- bug filing on this i

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread David Paleino
Steve Langasek wrote: > Or do you really mean that you expect the package manager to treat removal > of 'wicd' differently based on whether the removal is triggered by > 'apt-get remove wicd' vs. 'apt-get remove dependency-of-wicd'? Exactly that, plus the fact that it is a metapackage. -- . ''

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:35PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > Those are exactly the correct semantics. It makes no sense to remove the > > depends of a metapackage *and leave the metapackage installed* - what > > purpose would that serve? > Being able to > # apt-get --purge remove wicd >

Bug#538022: PAGER as a pipeline

2009-12-21 Thread Colin Watson
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 06:21:02PM +0100, Holger Levsen wrote: > why did you reassign 538022 to general? From reading "If we want to extend > PAGER in general, then I'm willing to revisit this." in > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=149;bug=538022 I understand > you want the pro

Bug#538022: PAGER as a pipeline

2009-12-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi Colin, why did you reassign 538022 to general? From reading "If we want to extend PAGER in general, then I'm willing to revisit this." in http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?msg=149;bug=538022 I understand you want the projects opinion on whether man should implement this? If I got

Processed: how to reproduce

2009-12-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 561068 linux-2.6 Bug #561068 [general] nfs crashes debian Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'linux-2.6'. > tags 561068 + moreinfo unreproducible Bug #561068 [linux-2.6] nfs crashes debian Added tag(s) unreproducible and moreinfo. >

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread George Danchev
Rene Engelhard writes: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:35PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > However, seems like on IRC we reached kind of a consensus on the fact > > that metapackages should use Recommends instead of Depends. I plan to do > > a mass- bug filing on this issue sooner or later, just n

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2009-12-21, Rene Engelhard wrote: > Assuming a system has a senseful configuration and has the recommends-install > thing removed? I am not really sure that you could use this to back up your claims, really. "This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should l

Bug#561962: marked as done (general: On desktop enviroments open .deb files with "gksu gdebi-gtk" by default)

2009-12-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#561961: marked as done (general: add a language-selector like ubuntu)

2009-12-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Bug#561966: marked as done (general: Centralized configuration for the hinting style and dpi)

2009-12-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
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Processed: Re: Bug#561964: general: add the user also in scanner group by default

2009-12-21 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: > reassign 561964 installation-reports Bug #561964 [general] general: add the user also in scanner group by default Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'installation-reports'. > tags 561964 + moreinfo Bug #561964 [installation-reports] general:

Bug#561964: general: add the user also in scanner group by default

2009-12-21 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 561964 installation-reports tags 561964 + moreinfo thanks Hi Chris, thanks for your bugreport. On Montag, 21. Dezember 2009, Chris wrote: > By default doesn't enabled my user to use the scanner. > Please add this by default. I believe this is actually the case when you do a default de

Bug#561966: general: Centralized configuration for the hinting style and dpi

2009-12-21 Thread Chris
Package: general Severity: wishlist Centralized configuration for the hinting style and dpi so you do not have to worry about installing applications to different desktop environments. example: on gnome I had to install "kcontrol" package to set dpi and hinting style for my kde applications li

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread David Paleino
Rene Engelhard wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:35PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: >> However, seems like on IRC we reached kind of a consensus on the fact >> that metapackages should use Recommends instead of Depends. I plan to do >> a mass- bug filing on this issue sooner or later, just need

Bug#561964: general: add the user also in scanner group by default

2009-12-21 Thread Chris
Package: general Severity: normal By default doesn't enabled my user to use the scanner. Please add this by default. Regards. -- System Information: Debian Release: 5.0.3 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cores)

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Rene Engelhard
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 05:00:35PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > However, seems like on IRC we reached kind of a consensus on the fact that > metapackages should use Recommends instead of Depends. I plan to do a mass- > bug filing on this issue sooner or later, just need some time to do it :) Wha

Bug#561962: general: On desktop enviroments open .deb files with "gksu gdebi-gtk" by default

2009-12-21 Thread Chris
Package: general Severity: normal On desktop enviroments open .deb files with "gksu gdebi-gtk" by default, like ubuntu. Regards. -- System Information: Debian Release: 5.0.3 APT prefers stable APT policy: (500, 'stable') Architecture: i386 (i686) Kernel: Linux 2.6.26-2-686 (SMP w/2 CPU cor

Bug#561961: general: add a language-selector like ubuntu

2009-12-21 Thread Chris
Package: general Severity: normal Add a language-selector like ubuntu to check and verify if available translation packages for installed applications, dictionary to check spelling or change system language. Regards. -- System Information: Debian Release: 5.0.3 APT prefers stable APT poli

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Felipe Sateler
On Mon, 2009-12-21 at 07:52 -0800, Steve Langasek wrote: > On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:40:37AM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > > So you're suggesting me to also do a "wicd" task. > > In experimental I have "wicd" depending on wicd-daemon + wicd-curses|wicd- > > gtk -- (it's a simple case, where the us

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread David Paleino
Steve Langasek wrote: > Those are exactly the correct semantics. It makes no sense to remove the > depends of a metapackage *and leave the metapackage installed* - what > purpose would that serve? Being able to # apt-get --purge remove wicd (thus removing any dependency/recommends/anything), w

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Steve Langasek
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:40:37AM +0100, David Paleino wrote: > So you're suggesting me to also do a "wicd" task. > In experimental I have "wicd" depending on wicd-daemon + wicd-curses|wicd- > gtk -- (it's a simple case, where the user might manually choose the > components, but it's good for the

Bug#561955: ITP: libmoosex-types-common-perl -- Commonly used type constraints for Moose

2009-12-21 Thread eloy
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Krzysztof Krzyżaniak (eloy)" * Package name: libmoosex-types-common-perl Version : 0.001000 Upstream Author : Guillermo Roditi (groditi) grod...@cpan.org * URL : http://search.cpan.org/dist/MooseX-Types-Common/ * License

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
Steve Langasek wrote: > From what I can tell, the only difference between the two implementations is > compatibility with disabling installation of Recommends by default. > > I don't think this is a good rationale for adding yet another package > relationship field. The Recommends field is *alrea

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Thomas Goirand
Steve Langasek wrote: > In this scenario, with Recommends installed by default (the only sane > model), the vast majority of metapackage dependencies are moved from Depends > to Recommends, so you can remove those Recommends manually without forcing > removal of the metapackage; and you can remove

Bug#508644: Sorting out mail-transport-agent mess

2009-12-21 Thread Holger Levsen
Hi, On Samstag, 19. Dezember 2009, Steve Langasek wrote: > Yes, exim4-daemon-light now Provides: default-mta and a number of packages > depend on it already. So let's file bugs on all packages depending on "mail-transfer-agent" instead of "default-mta | mail-transfer-agent"? (And make those bugs

Re: Bug#561868: ITP: piwigo -- photo gallery software for the web

2009-12-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Mon, Dec 21, 2009 at 09:37:02AM +0100, Nicolas wrote: > > To be honest, I didn't know about ansel before you ask for comparaison. I > search for that application. I saw screenshot and features and it looks good > but I didn't find a simple way to install it. Maybe I forgot something. My guess

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread David Paleino
David Paleino wrote: > [..] > So you're suggesting me to also do a "wicd" task. > In experimental I have "wicd" depending on wicd-daemon + wicd-curses|wicd- > gtk -- (it's a simple case, where the user might manually choose the > components, but it's good for the sake of exampling). As explained

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread David Paleino
Roland Mas wrote: > David Paleino, 2009-12-21 09:13:17 +0100 : > > [...] > >> I mean, meta-packages should *always* have their Recommends installed, >> otherwise they have no point in existing. > > If it's *always*, then… isn't your proposal pointless? If it's merely > a *should*, then Recom

Re: Bug#561868: ITP: piwigo -- photo gallery software for the web

2009-12-21 Thread Nicolas
Hi, thanks for your interest in piwigo. > That's a quite interesting package because I intend to implement such gallery software soonish. Could you please do some comparison against ansel1 which is just inside Debian. I'd be interested how both compare to have some help for the decision which o

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread Roland Mas
David Paleino, 2009-12-21 09:13:17 +0100 : [...] > I mean, meta-packages should *always* have their Recommends installed, > otherwise they have no point in existing. If it's *always*, then… isn't your proposal pointless? If it's merely a *should*, then Recommends is a fine solution. [...] >

Re: DEP-5: binary package affected by license $foo

2009-12-21 Thread Steve Langasek
Hello, On Wed, Nov 04, 2009 at 11:47:52PM +0100, Frank Lin PIAT wrote: > As I was updating the copyright file in a package, I wondered if it > would be useful to add an optional header (named "Binary-Package" or > whatever), to state which binary package is using that file and license. > The rati

Re: [RFC] DEP-6: Meta-Package debian/control field

2009-12-21 Thread David Paleino
Steve Langasek wrote: > On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 09:30:04PM +0100, David Paleino wrote: >> > Ubuntu defines a special archive section, 'metapackages', which results >> > in special tagging/handling of the Depends and Recommends of the >> > package so >> > that they're not autoremoved if the metapac

Re: Bug#561868: ITP: piwigo -- photo gallery software for the web

2009-12-21 Thread Andreas Tille
On Sun, Dec 20, 2009 at 11:14:22PM +0100, Nicolas Roudaire wrote: > > * Package name: piwigo > Version : 2.0.7 > Upstream Author : Pierrick LE GALL > * URL : http://piwigo.org/ > * License : GPL > Programming Lang: PHP > Description : photo gallery soft