On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
On Wed, 2010-03-03 at 17:51 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 3:50 PM, Peter Samuelson pe...@p12n.org wrote:
[Luis R. Rodriguez]
BTW -- while we're on the topic of 2.6.32 and the next Debian
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 01:51:20PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
We added a Lintian tag warning about not having md5sums in that time
frame, I think.
Gotcha, that must be it. Very impressive result.
FWIW, about the people proposing to change from md5 to something else,
it should be pretty easy to
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:11:21AM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
FWIW, about the people proposing to change from md5 to something else,
it should be pretty easy to achieve too: if all of us is using
dh_md5sums,
Which is not the case. There are still people who like to package
without
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 09:27:06AM +0100, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
Which is not the case. There are still people who like to package
without helpers.
Agreed, that's exactly why I've proposed also the bug report on
policy. As per our customs, the policy will then state the desired
result, the
On Mon, Mar 01, 2010 at 01:34:24PM +0200, Pasi Kärkkäinen wrote:
On Fri, Feb 26, 2010 at 07:01:59AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote:
On Thu, Feb 25, 2010 at 04:53:56PM -0600, John Goerzen wrote:
Hi folks,
There was a thread here a little while back about the status of Xen in
future
Le jeudi 04 mars 2010 à 09:07 +1100, Ben Finney a écrit :
It's already been pointed out that good manpages are plenty useful for
those programs in the proposed exclusion class. The “should” applies
equally well to those programs too.
Sure, some programs don't have good manpages. But that's
Le jeudi 04 mars 2010 à 01:22 +0100, Luca Niccoli a écrit :
Manuals are not only for documenting command line switches, they
should actually explain how to use a program.
I found the lack of good man pages one of the most annoying and
widespread problems of OSS.
Unfortunately, this gets more
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:20:44AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
So far the only thing that I can conclude from this “discussion” (just a
gathering of rants, actually) is that we should just remove manual pages
that are not maintained upstream and tag all related bugs wontfix.
YMMV. I've
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 10:19:21PM +0100, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 08:08:38PM +0100, Bernd Zeimetz wrote:
I think its about time to require to generate checksums for packages
and make all packages which do not do so RC buggy.
Well, RC buggy is probably a tad
Hello,
BTW -- while we're on the topic of 2.6.32 and the next Debian release,
and 802.11, do you guys ship iw by default yet? If not I highly
encourage it. It should be shipped just as iwconfig is shipped. iw is
the replacement for iwconfig, it uses the new nl80211 and nl80211 is
used by all
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Letting alone policy issues: what do you propose, *concretely* to
improve the situation?
The situation is as it is: many commands lack proper manual pages. I
don't propose to change the existing approach for dealing with this:
file bug reports, work
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Le Sat, Feb 27, 2010 at 08:06:37PM +0100, Josselin Mouette a écrit :
currently policy §12.1 mandates that “each program, utility, and
function should have an associated manual page”. However, the more I
stomp on bug reports about manual pages, the less I am convinced of
their usefulness for
On Thu, 2010-03-04 at 00:01 -0800, Luis R. Rodriguez wrote:
On Wed, Mar 3, 2010 at 9:05 PM, Ben Hutchings b...@decadent.org.uk wrote:
[...]
I think there's a good case for
including it in the 'laptop' task, but not in the standard system
(desktops and servers generally don't need it). It
Package: wnpp
Hi,
I'm looking for help, possibly in the form of members of a new alioth
team, to carry on maintaining Movable Type packages in Debian.
Movable Type is a perl-based blogging platform, which has been in
existence for nearly 10 years, first as a proprietary package, and
in recent
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:40:57PM +0900, Charles Plessy wrote:
Hello Josselin and everybody,
I concur to much that has been written about obsolete manpages. In the past I
often wrote manpages for my new packages, and in many cases they became a
burden for me as a package maintainer when
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:26:06AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 04 mars 2010 à 01:22 +0100, Luca Niccoli a écrit :
Manuals are not only for documenting command line switches, they
should actually explain how to use a program.
I found the lack of good man pages one of the most
Hi,
On Wed, Mar 03, 2010 at 02:25:44PM -0500, Joey Hess wrote:
Osamu Aoki wrote:
True but debsums can address these issues by system administrator
touch-ups as documented in manpage using:
* /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/90debsums (debsums = 2.0.7)
* debsums_init(8) (debsums =
Le jeudi 04 mars 2010 à 15:20 +0100, Bill Allombert a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:26:06AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
No. It’s just that they ship with HTML documentation, which is much more
suitable for documenting a GUI. A manual page cannot contain things as
trivial as
Le jeudi 04 mars 2010 à 22:40 +0900, Charles Plessy a écrit :
Still, it would be nice to be able to know about the purpose of the programs
that are ran or stored on our computers. Would there be a way to hijack the
whatis database of the man infrastructure for this, with for instance a
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Michal iha wrote:
Hi
Dne Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:12:25 +0100 (CET)
Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es napsal(a):
There is now an autopoint package. If your package uses the
autopoint script (either directly or indirectly), please build-depend
on the autopoint package. If
Hi
Dne Thu, 4 Mar 2010 14:12:25 +0100 (CET)
Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es napsal(a):
There is now an autopoint package. If your package uses the
autopoint script (either directly or indirectly), please build-depend
on the autopoint package. If you had cvs in build-depends only because
of
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 04:32:45PM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
Le jeudi 04 mars 2010 à 15:20 +0100, Bill Allombert a écrit :
On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 10:26:06AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote:
No. It’s just that they ship with HTML documentation, which is much more
suitable for
]] James Vega
| On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 02:11:55AM +0100, Harald Braumann wrote:
| I think I was finally able to decipher your message. But my other
| points still hold. And while it is just a matter of programming,
| simple or not, it already exists in debhelper. So doing it at build
| time
]] Frank Lin PIAT
| What about a transitional dh_md5sums that would produce md5sum AND
| invoke dh_sha ?
Or call it dh_checksums or something so we don't have to change the tool
name each time we decide to change the algorithm.
(And I want the shed blue with pink spots.)
--
Tollef Fog Heen
Hi
Dne Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:46:11 +0100 (CET)
Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es napsal(a):
Sorry for not following developers-reference to the letter.
I asked in debian-release, and I got the okay from one of the release
managers to report the bugs.
Okay, in this case it would be helpful to
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Michal ?iha? wrote:
Hi
Dne Thu, 4 Mar 2010 16:46:11 +0100 (CET)
Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es napsal(a):
Sorry for not following developers-reference to the letter.
I asked in debian-release, and I got the okay from one of the release
managers to report the
On jeu., 2010-03-04 at 22:54 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Letting alone policy issues: what do you propose, *concretely* to
improve the situation?
The situation is as it is: many commands lack proper manual pages. I
don't propose to change the
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Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Le jeudi 04 mars 2010 à 01:22 +0100, Luca Niccoli a écrit :
As has already been noted, the policy says there SHOULD be a manual
page, so a missing one doesn't make a package RC buggy.
No, but it fills the BTS with pointless bugs. I think we have
Stefano Zacchiroli z...@debian.org writes:
Russ, while we are at it, would you mind a bug report on the policy to
suggest (starting at SHOULD?) to store md5sums in packages?
Not that I've had any time to work on Policy (or Lintian) in the last
month, but that does seem reasonable to me. It
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Hi
Dne Thu, 4 Mar 2010 20:50:46 +0100 (CET)
Santiago Vila sanv...@unex.es napsal(a):
On Thu, 4 Mar 2010, Michal ?iha? wrote:
Also there are probably some packages missing from your bug reports,
because geeqie also build-depends on cvs and it did not get the bug
It's ok that geeqie did
This script signs each file in the package individually, but it could
also concatenate them all alphabetically and create just one signature.
There have been previous discussions on debian-devel about this. I
believe DAK does not allow packages signed using debsigs to be uploaded.
I'm not
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On Thu, Mar 04, 2010 at 01:12:26PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote:
Russ, while we are at it, would you mind a bug
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On jeu., 2010-03-04 at 22:43 +0100, Joerg Jaspert wrote:
This script signs each file in the package individually, but it could
also concatenate them all alphabetically and create just one signature.
There have been previous discussions on debian-devel about this. I
believe DAK does not
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On 04/03/10 20:00, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Letting alone policy issues: what do you propose, *concretely* to
improve the situation?
A man page containing a *brief* (one or two lines) description of what
the program does and pointers to further
Hi kernel team,
(Cc-ing -devel to get more eyes on the subject, since I'm soliciting
ideas here... See [1] for some context.)
What would it take to get kernel debuginfo into squeeze? As I
understand it, the main blockers were [2]:
1) It would blow up the archive by ~10 GB
- This is a
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested
through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the
last week.
Total number of orphaned packages: 571 (new: 23)
Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 130 (new: 0)
Total number of packages
Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org writes:
On jeu., 2010-03-04 at 22:54 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
file bug reports, work with upstream to have properly maintained
manpages, close the bug reports as fixed when that happens.
My upstream position is exactly what started the thread: no need to
My 2 cents being that I'm far from part of the kernel team:
Am Freitag 05 März 2010 00:40:27 schrieb John Wright:
Hi kernel team,
What would it take to get kernel debuginfo into squeeze? As I
understand it, the main blockers were [2]:
1) It would blow up the archive by ~10 GB
-
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On ven., 2010-03-05 at 09:49 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
Yves-Alexis Perez cor...@debian.org writes:
On jeu., 2010-03-04 at 22:54 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
file bug reports, work with upstream to have properly maintained
manpages, close the bug reports as fixed when that happens.
My
Yves-Alexis Perez wrote:
On jeu., 2010-03-04 at 22:54 +1100, Ben Finney wrote:
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes:
Letting alone policy issues: what do you propose, *concretely* to
improve the situation?
The situation is as it is: many commands lack proper manual pages. I
On Fri, Mar 5, 2010 at 3:41 PM, Daniel Leidert
daniel.leidert.s...@gmx.net wrote:
What's the problem, to write a short manual page, that points to the
--help switch? All the maintainer would have to do is to provide the
intention of the command, point to the help/usage switch, relevant
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