Re: Usage of /var/lib for databases not properly described in policy

2010-08-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Christoph Anton Mitterer | What about using /srv/ for such stuff? Wouldn't that fit better? The structure of /srv is explicitly undefined and left up to the local admin, so I suggest not doing that. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To

Re: RFC: Policy 10.1 and appropriateness of package conflicts

2010-08-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 09:20:17AM -0400, Michael Hanke wrote: > I'm trying to figure out a solution for RC bug #592242. The short > summary of this bug is a package A that conflicts with a package B due > to a name clash in /usr/bin. The programs in question do not provide the > same functionality

Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files

2010-08-14 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Fri, 13 Aug 2010, Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphael Hertzog writes: > > > As suggested by Ian on -devel (see attachment), it would be nice to have > > a way to remove files during unpack of a source package to hide non-free > > files from our users without stripping them from the original tarball.

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2010-08-14 Thread sunil singh
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Bug#592962: ITP: python-pygene -- simple python genetic algorithms/programming library

2010-08-14 Thread Mathieu Negri
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mathieu Negri * Package name: python-pygene Version : 0.2.1 Upstream Author : David McNab * URL : http://www.freenet.org.nz/python/pygene/ * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: Python Description : simple python gen

Bug#592967: ITP: jnr-posix -- basic POSIX-like functions for Java

2010-08-14 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner * Package name: jnr-posix Version : 1.1.4 Upstream Author : Thomas E Enebo * URL : http://github.com/wmeissner/jnr-posix * License : CPL/GPL/LGPL Programming Lang: Java Description : basic POSIX-lik

Bug#592968: ITP: jnr-netdb -- java interface for network functions

2010-08-14 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner * Package name: jnr-netdb Version : 1.0.1 Upstream Author : Wayne Meissner * URL : http://github.com/wmeissner/jnr-netdb * License : LGPL-3 Programming Lang: Java Description : java interface for ne

Re: RFC: Policy 10.1 and appropriateness of package conflicts

2010-08-14 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Fri, Aug 13, 2010 at 03:38:39PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > So the only purpose of "fsl" is to provide these namespace-eating > convenience symlinks ? If so I'm not sure that this is a good purpose > for a a package. wou...@celtic:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/gcc lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 jun 6 07:23 /us

Re: RFC: Policy 10.1 and appropriateness of package conflicts

2010-08-14 Thread Bastian Blank
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 09:29:52AM -0700, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > wou...@celtic:~$ ls -l /usr/bin/gcc > lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 7 jun 6 07:23 /usr/bin/gcc -> gcc-4.4 > wou...@celtic:~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc > gcc: /usr/bin/gcc > wou...@celtic:~$ dpkg -S /usr/bin/gcc-4.1 > gcc-4.1: /usr/bin/gcc-4.1

Intent to hijack anarchism

2010-08-14 Thread Mauro Lizaur
Hello there, This is my intent to "hijack" the package anarchism. (Oh, the irony) I've already talked to Ed Boraas (the previous maintainer) about this and he agreed that I can take over this package and continue the work. Unfortunately, I don't have a signed mail to prove this. (Ed, if you read

Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-14 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, what is the reason that many applications clutter the terminal with output that is obvisously debug output? Lets take digikam as an example: kdeinit4: preparing to launch /usr/lib/kde4/libkdeinit/libkdeinit4_klauncher.so Connecting to deprecated signal QDBusConnectionInterface::serviceOwne

Re: status of /etc/environment?

2010-08-14 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
[Christoph Anton Mitterer] > Just wondered about the status of /etc/environment... > > It seems that this belongs to libpam... but is no longer created an > deprecated or at least for providing local information, right? Debian Edu use it to set the global proxy settings. It is created during ins

Re: Intent to hijack anarchism

2010-08-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Mauro Lizaur | This is my intent to "hijack" the package anarchism. (Oh, the irony) | I've already talked to Ed Boraas (the previous maintainer) about this | and he agreed that I can take over this package and continue the work. | Unfortunately, I don't have a signed mail to prove this. Thi

Constantly Usable Testing team forming

2010-08-14 Thread Joey Hess
At DebConf there was a standing-room-only BoF to see if it made sense to form a team to work on the Constantly Usable Testing (CUT) idea. My feeling of the BoF session is that the project is generally open to the idea of doing something to make testing more generally usable. And has a lot of ideas

Re: Intent to hijack anarchism

2010-08-14 Thread Mauro Lizaur
2010-08-14, Tollef Fog Heen: > ]] Mauro Lizaur > > | This is my intent to "hijack" the package anarchism. (Oh, the irony) > | I've already talked to Ed Boraas (the previous maintainer) about this > | and he agreed that I can take over this package and continue the work. > | Unfortunately, I

Re: New LILO upstream development

2010-08-14 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Bjørn Mork | Joachim Wiedorn writes: | | > After the long silence about the popular bootloader LILO the development | > was started again. | > | > The new Homepage can be found here: | > http://lilo.alioth.debian.org/ | > | > For the development of the bootloader I have started an Alioth pro

Bug#592986: ITP: w3c-sgml-lib -- DTDs etc for W3C markup validator

2010-08-14 Thread Nicholas Bamber
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nicholas Bamber * Package name: w3c-sgml-lib Version : 1.1 Upstream Author : http://www.w3.org * URL : http://validator.w3.org/dist * License : W3C-SOFTWARE Programming Lang: SGML/XML/DTD etc Description : DTDs e

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-14 Thread Neil Williams
On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:59:50 +0200 Michael Welle wrote: > what is the reason that many applications clutter the terminal with > output that is obvisously debug output? It's debug output, it is useful when debugging and you need the output, e.g. when fixing bugs and the user can just be asked to

Re: status of /etc/environment?

2010-08-14 Thread Steve Langasek
On Sat, Aug 14, 2010 at 08:06:40PM +0200, Petter Reinholdtsen wrote: > [Christoph Anton Mitterer] > > Just wondered about the status of /etc/environment... > > It seems that this belongs to libpam... but is no longer created an > > deprecated or at least for providing local information, right? >

Bug#592997: ITP: yecht -- Yecht is a Syck port, a YAML 1.0 processor for Ruby

2010-08-14 Thread Torsten Werner
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Torsten Werner * Package name: yecht Version : 0.0.2 Upstream Author : Ola Bini * URL : http://github.com/olabini/yecht/ * License : MIT/X11 Programming Lang: Java Description : Yecht is a Syck port, a YAML 1.0 pr

Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files

2010-08-14 Thread David Claughton
On 13/08/10 17:58, Russ Allbery wrote: > Raphael Hertzog writes: > >> As suggested by Ian on -devel (see attachment), it would be nice to have >> a way to remove files during unpack of a source package to hide non-free >> files from our users without stripping them from the original tarball. > >

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-14 Thread brian m. carlson
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 12:09:42AM +0100, Neil Williams wrote: > It's debug output, it is useful when debugging and you need the output, > e.g. when fixing bugs and the user can just be asked to run the command > from the terminal and post the output to help in debugging the bug > report. Generally

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-14 Thread Paul Wise
On Sun, Aug 15, 2010 at 7:09 AM, Neil Williams wrote: > It's debug output, it is useful when debugging and you need the output, > e.g. when fixing bugs and the user can just be asked to run the command > from the terminal and post the output to help in debugging the bug > report. Generally, the d

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-14 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Neil Williams writes: > On Sat, 14 Aug 2010 19:59:50 +0200 > Michael Welle wrote: > >> what is the reason that many applications clutter the terminal with >> output that is obvisously debug output? > > It's debug output, it is useful when debugging and you need the output, > e.g. when f

Bug#593009: ITP: open-dis -- Distributed Interactive Simulation Protocol.

2010-08-14 Thread James Goppert
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: James Goppert * Package name: open-dis Version : 2.5 Upstream Author : Don McGregor * URL : http://sourceforge.net/projects/open-dis/ * License : BSD, see license for further conditions Programming Lang: Java, C++ D

Re: Debug output etc, cluttering the terminal

2010-08-14 Thread Michael Welle
Hello, Paul Wise writes: [...] > debug output should certainly not be output by default in released > versions without a command-line or configuration option turning it on. > > l for one don't want ls doing something like this: > > ls: starting up > ls: checking for bad filesystems > ls: searchin