Re: [poll] Ubuntu column on DDPO visible by default?

2010-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 26/08/10 at 00:32 +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:08:54AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > About the change, I think caring about the status in Ubuntu should be > > > something you choose and not something that is thrown at you by default > > > whether you want it or n

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Re: Activating t-p-u by default (was: Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian)

2010-08-25 Thread Paul Wise
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 6:38 PM, Christian PERRIER wrote: > Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): > >> > Hmhm, out of curiosity, why is t-p-u “way riskier”. >> >> Mostly because there isn't any large pool of systems using t-p-u the way >> there is for unstable, so the aging process where we get

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Ben Finney
Chris writes: > I admit, I am still very new to this process. > If I can, I would be glad to help out during the Freeze process > if any kind soul would be willing to discuss this off list with me. For the benefit of readers of debian-devel who don't read debian-mentors: I already replied to Ch

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Chris
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 02:09:03 +0100 Ben Hutchings wrote: > Please stop filing ITPs and concentrate on packages that should be > included in squeeze. The sooner squeeze is out, the sooner you can > add stuff to the next release. > > Ben. > Greetings everyone, I admit, I am still very new to th

unstable-proposed-updates (was: For those who care about their packages in Debian)

2010-08-25 Thread Carsten Hey
* Ian Jackson [2010-08-25 13:42 +0100]: > Perhaps the right answer is to simply ask people to upload > non-release-related stuff to experimental rather than unstable. That > way one can do the itch-scratching right away; moving packages from > experimental to unstable later is easy ... > > Even be

Re: list of packages that FTBFS on i386

2010-08-25 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Kamaraju S Kusumanchi (25/08/2010): >> How do I obtain a list of packages that have FTBFS bugs filed on >> them and that are currently failing to build on i386 architecture? > > https://buildd.debian.org/status/architecture.php?a=i386&suite=unstable > > Click “Failed”.

Re: Seeking fellow developers feedback for iceweasel in squeeze (transient homepage & upgrade notification)

2010-08-25 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 03:08:59PM +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: > > - Improve or remove the restart popup that shows up when upgrading the > > package. One of the issues: the notification is shown when the upgrade starts, not when it's actually done. This is especially bad when several dependant p

Re: [poll] Ubuntu column on DDPO visible by default?

2010-08-25 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Thu, Aug 26, 2010 at 12:08:54AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Maybe (as often) only the ones disagreeing decided to participate in the > thread on -...@? Also, the thread has been silent since the end of > Debconf, so I'm quite surprised this come up now. > You sent the email in a very bad

Re: [poll] Ubuntu column on DDPO visible by default?

2010-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, On 25/08/10 at 23:51 +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote: > On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 11:19:06AM -0400, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > On 01/08/10 at 17:00 -0400, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > > > There's an Ubuntu column on http://qa.debian.org/developer.php, but it > > > is hidden by default, so m

Re: [poll] Ubuntu column on DDPO visible by default?

2010-08-25 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Tue, Aug 03, 2010 at 11:19:06AM -0400, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > On 01/08/10 at 17:00 -0400, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: > > Hi, > > > > There's an Ubuntu column on http://qa.debian.org/developer.php, but it > > is hidden by default, so many people ignore it exists. > > > > I propose to make it visibl

Re: list of packages that FTBFS on i386

2010-08-25 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Kamaraju S Kusumanchi (25/08/2010): > How do I obtain a list of packages that have FTBFS bugs filed on > them and that are currently failing to build on i386 architecture? https://buildd.debian.org/status/architecture.php?a=i386&suite=unstable Click “Failed”. Usually, you get a “failing reason”

Re: Atlas proposal [and 1 more messages]

2010-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Atlas proposal [and 1 more messages]"): > Just dumping the compiled files into /usr/lib/ I find quite unacceptable > too. No, it is absolutely fine and it is what atlas-auto should do. It is a simple matter for its postinst and postrm to deal with these files exp

Re: Atlas proposal [and 1 more messages]

2010-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson writes: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Atlas proposal"): >> I also have a package "local-archive" that depends on reprepro, >> generates a local signing key on first install, adds that to the apt-get >> keyring and adds a file:/// url in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. > > I think this

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Mike Hommey writes ("Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian"): > On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 01:42:34PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > > Even better would be an option to write something in your .dsc which > > would cause automatic transfer of your package into unstable when > > testing is

Bug#594366: ITP: krazy2 -- KDE source code checker

2010-08-25 Thread José Manuel Santamaría Lema
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: José Manuel Santamaría Lema X-Debbugs-CC: debian-devel@lists.debian.org Package name: krazy2 Version: 0 Upstream Author: Allen Winter URL: http://www.englishbreakfastnetwork.org/ License: LGPL, MIT/X11 and others. Description: KDE source code checker Kraz

Bug#594360: ITP: dumpet -- dump information about bootable CDs and other similar formats

2010-08-25 Thread Colin Watson
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Colin Watson * Package name: dumpet Version : 2.0 Upstream Author : Peter Jones * URL : https://fedorahosted.org/dumpet/ * License : GPL-2+ Programming Lang: C Description : dump information about bootable CDs a

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Marc Haber
On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 13:42:34 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: >Perhaps the right answer is to simply ask people to upload >non-release-related stuff to experimental rather than unstable. That >way one can do the itch-scratching right away; ... if apt would finally support wildcards in preferences file'

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Christoph Anton Mitterer writes: > On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 11:05 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: >> We already have the logic in there to mount anything as /. > Well. at least if it's a very plain setup... (see > http://wiki.debian.org/AdvancedStartupShutdownWithMultilayeredBlockDevices) > >

Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files

2010-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Manoj Srivastava writes: > On Wed, Aug 25 2010, Ian Jackson wrote: > >> Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove >> files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files"): >>> That was my point. Legally we CAN use those files. But we don't WANT to >>> use them for DFSG r

Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files

2010-08-25 Thread Manoj Srivastava
On Wed, Aug 25 2010, Ian Jackson wrote: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove > files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files"): >> That was my point. Legally we CAN use those files. But we don't WANT to >> use them for DFSG reasons. > > I think we are in vigo

Re: Seeking fellow developers feedback for iceweasel in squeeze (transient homepage

2010-08-25 Thread Fabian Greffrath
So maybe these transient homepages (remember they only show up when the xulrunner version changes, which won't happen in squeeze stable/security updates or when running iceweasel for the first time) should just thank users, and point to some useful links/rss feeds and be done with it. On the oth

Re: Seeking fellow developers feedback for iceweasel in squeeze (transient homepage

2010-08-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 03:44:54PM +0200, Fabian Greffrath wrote: > >So maybe these transient homepages (remember they only show up when > >the xulrunner version changes, which won't happen in squeeze > >stable/security updates or when running iceweasel for the first > >time) should just thank user

Re: list of packages that FTBFS on i386

2010-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/08/10 at 09:05 -0400, Kamaraju S Kusumanchi wrote: > How do I obtain a list of packages that have FTBFS bugs filed on them and > that are currently failing to build on i386 architecture? > > I can see a list of RC-bugs at http://bugs.debian.org/release- > critical/debian/main.html . I can d

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-25 Thread Christoph Anton Mitterer
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 11:05 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > We already have the logic in there to mount anything as /. Well. at least if it's a very plain setup... (see http://wiki.debian.org/AdvancedStartupShutdownWithMultilayeredBlockDevices) > /usr can't be > any harder so that isn't

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 01:42:34PM +0100, Ian Jackson wrote: > Russ Allbery writes ("Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian"): > > Ben Hutchings writes: > > > > > Please stop filing ITPs and concentrate on packages that should be > > > included in squeeze. The sooner squeeze is ou

Seeking fellow developers feedback for iceweasel in squeeze (transient homepage & upgrade notification)

2010-08-25 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi, For those not reading debian-rele...@l.d.o, I planned to include some further changes to iceweasel before the freeze, except that the freeze happened earlier than I expected. Anyways, the plan was more or less accepted by the release team, but now that I actually started to make the changes, I

list of packages that FTBFS on i386

2010-08-25 Thread Kamaraju S Kusumanchi
How do I obtain a list of packages that have FTBFS bugs filed on them and that are currently failing to build on i386 architecture? I can see a list of RC-bugs at http://bugs.debian.org/release- critical/debian/main.html . I can download that page and grep it for FTBFS. However, most of the FTBF

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Russ Allbery writes ("Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian"): > Ben Hutchings writes: > > > Please stop filing ITPs and concentrate on packages that should be > > included in squeeze. The sooner squeeze is out, the sooner you can add > > stuff to the next release. > > This come

Re: Atlas proposal

2010-08-25 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 11:37:44 (CEST), Goswin von Brederlow wrote: > I also have a package "local-archive" that depends on reprepro, > generates a local signing key on first install, adds that to the apt-get > keyring and adds a file:/// url in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. This sounds interesting

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2010-08-25 at 00:45 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote: [...] > That last bucket of time is simply not available to work on the squeeze > release, period. If I weren't spending it on packaging new things for > Debian, I would not be spending it on Debian *at all*. I don't think you > actually woul

Re: Atlas proposal [and 1 more messages]

2010-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Atlas proposal"): > I also have a package "local-archive" that depends on reprepro, > generates a local signing key on first install, adds that to the apt-get > keyring and adds a file:/// url in /etc/apt/sources.list.d/. I think this scheme is a very bad idea. I

Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files

2010-08-25 Thread Ian Jackson
Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files"): > That was my point. Legally we CAN use those files. But we don't WANT to > use them for DFSG reasons. I think we are in vigorous agreement, but your tone makes me hesitate. L

Activating t-p-u by default (was: Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian)

2010-08-25 Thread Christian PERRIER
Quoting Russ Allbery (r...@debian.org): > > Hmhm, out of curiosity, why is t-p-u “way riskier”. > > Mostly because there isn't any large pool of systems using t-p-u the way > there is for unstable, so the aging process where we get testing in > unstable before migrating the package never happens.

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 25/08/10 at 11:43 +0200, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On 25/08/2010 10:13, Russ Allbery wrote: > > Yves-Alexis Perez writes: > >> Hmhm, out of curiosity, why is t-p-u “way riskier”. > > > > Mostly because there isn't any large pool of systems using t-p-u the way > > there is for unstable, > > Y

Re: Atlas proposal

2010-08-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 25 août 2010 à 11:37 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : > To support building atlas on one system and installing it on many you > may want to use Depends: libatlas3gf-base | libatlas3gf-auto | > libatlas3gf-remote, libatlas3gf-base | libatlas3gf-custom. > > The -base is the prebuild

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 25/08/2010 10:13, Russ Allbery wrote: > Yves-Alexis Perez writes: >> Hmhm, out of curiosity, why is t-p-u “way riskier”. > > Mostly because there isn't any large pool of systems using t-p-u the way > there is for unstable, Yeah, good point. > >> Would it be possible (at one point) to “fix”

Re: Atlas proposal

2010-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Sylvestre Ledru writes: > For now, the solution I imagine is: > * build the package libatlas3gf-base just like it is now > * the libatlas3gf-auto package contains the upstream tarball + the > content of the debian/ directory > * libatlas3gf-auto has dependencies on the build dependencies > * when

Bug#594321: ITP: dkopp -- incremental backup tool to DVD and Blueray media

2010-08-25 Thread Alessio Treglia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessio Treglia * Package name: dkopp Version : 5.4 Upstream Author : Michael Cornelison * URL : http://kornelix.squarespace.com/dkopp/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : incremental backup tool to

Re: why are there /bin and /usr/bin...

2010-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
The Fungi writes: > On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 10:45:04PM +0200, Christoph Anton Mitterer wrote: >> Of course,.. but only because your /usr is on the root-fs. >> >> And there are many good reasons to put it on its own fs, as already >> outlayed here... > [...] > > No disagreement there... I'm much

Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files

2010-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Ian Jackson writes: > Goswin von Brederlow writes ("Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove > files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files"): >> No. The files must be legal to be included. They are distributed in the >> tarball after all. So deleting or not deleting makes absolutely no >> di

Re: Bug#592839: dpkg-source option to remove files on unpack: debian/source/remove-files

2010-08-25 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Simon Richter writes: > Hi, > > I think that we should be aiming towards descriptive domain-specific > languages rather than imperative catch-all ones wherever possible. In > the old days before debhelper, the rules file would explicitly move > files around, and I think .install files are a huge

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Yves-Alexis Perez writes: > On 25/08/2010 10:02, Russ Allbery wrote: >> Uploading new versions of leaf software isn't *as* big of a disaster, >> but it does mean that updates to that software that should go into >> testing can't go through the normal testing process and have to go >> through test

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On 25/08/2010 10:02, Russ Allbery wrote: > Uploading new versions of leaf software isn't *as* big of a disaster, but > it does mean that updates to that software that should go into testing > can't go through the normal testing process and have to go through > testing-proposed-updates, which is way

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Finney writes: > But the solution would best entail allowing ‘unstable’ to continue to be > used for the same purpose regardless of whether a freeze is currently > active, no? This, *in general*, doesn't work because of the way library transitions work. If you upload a new upstream version

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Ben Finney
Russ Allbery writes: > I, and I suspect many other people who are working on packaging new > software for their own reasons, am quite aware of the release and are > trying to stay out of the way. +1 Though I'm not currently packaging any new software during this freeze, I've worked with people

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Russ Allbery
Ben Hutchings writes: > Please stop filing ITPs and concentrate on packages that should be > included in squeeze. The sooner squeeze is out, the sooner you can add > stuff to the next release. This comes up with every release, so I guess I'll reiterate what I end up saying during every release.

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 25 août 2010 à 02:09 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : > Please stop filing ITPs and concentrate on packages that should be > included in squeeze. The sooner squeeze is out, the sooner you can add > stuff to the next release. I second that, and would also suggest to extend this to the ti

Re: For those who care about their packages in Debian

2010-08-25 Thread Julien BLACHE
Ben Hutchings wrote: Hi, > Please stop filing ITPs and concentrate on packages that should be > included in squeeze. The sooner squeeze is out, the sooner you can add > stuff to the next release. I'd add: stop uploading new upstream versions to unstable, or actually any revision that isn't nee