On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:23:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> That depends on what you mean by 'issue'. I think exactly the issues that
> concern some people in Debian about packages of 'poor quality' being
> generated
> in an uncontrolled PPA system are happening with regularity in Ubuntu
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:23:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote:
> On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:16:54 AM Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> > On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Julien Valroff wrote:
> > > Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 00:02:01 (+0200 CEST), René Mayorga a écrit :
> > >> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at
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On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:10:48AM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote:
> Sounds like http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12518
> which is fixed (sort of) by commit 0354e355 (2011-04-01).
Oh my word. So glibc 2.13 breaks random binaries that happened to
incorrectly use memcpy() instead of me
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:16:54 AM Paul Tagliamonte wrote:
> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Julien Valroff wrote:
> > Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 00:02:01 (+0200 CEST), René Mayorga a écrit :
> >> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:30:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> >> > After all, in that re
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Julien Valroff wrote:
> Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 00:02:01 (+0200 CEST), René Mayorga a écrit :
>> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:30:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
>> > After all, in that respect what is the difference between that and
>> > unofficial APT
>> >
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 00:02:01 (+0200 CEST), René Mayorga a écrit :
> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:30:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > After all, in that respect what is the difference between that and
> > unofficial APT
> > repositories that many of us already maintain at people.d.o/~
Hi,
Mark Johnson (03/05/2011):
> However, I wasn't able to find any info on how to rejoin the
> organization in the standard documents. Do I simply go through the
> New Maintainer application process as I did initially?
might be that it's a bit uncommon, and maybe under-documented; anyway,
I had
On 05/04/2011 12:24 AM, Cyril Brulebois wrote:
Hi,
(not a gcc maintainer)
Charles Plessy (04/05/2011):
I just got a bug from you explaining some changes (= more FTBFS)
about 4.6.1. Will there be similar 4.6.x changes in the future ?
my reading of it is that to prevent too many FTBFSes whil
On Tue, 03 May 2011 at 14:46:11 -0600, René Mayorga wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for
> > Debian is a priority.
>
> I do not agree on this, if the package is good enough and has somebody willing
Hi All,
I've got a handful of orphaned docbook and xml related that I'd like to
maintain [0], as well to to add some new DITA [1] packages so that we can
eventually get the DITA Open Toolkit [2] into the archive.
However, I wasn't able to find any info on how to rejoin the organization in
the sta
On Sun, May 01, 2011 at 07:56:26PM +0200, Ana Guerrero wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> kdelibs3 was removed recently from the archive and the last tiny bit
> of KDE 3 remaining, aRts, will be removed quite soon.
>
> This means the KDE team is not longer interested in Qt3 and we are looking
> for new maintai
Hi,
(not a gcc maintainer)
Charles Plessy (04/05/2011):
> I just got a bug from you explaining some changes (= more FTBFS)
> about 4.6.1. Will there be similar 4.6.x changes in the future ?
my reading of it is that to prevent too many FTBFSes while introducing
4.6 in Debian, some changes were
Just got 1 more package accepted, after waiting only 2 days! I then
had a look at the NEW queue -- and I merely need to scroll! amazing
Thanks you guys for your work -- that is awesome that there is virtually
no queue backlog/waiting, and it motivates to package/upload even
more!
Cheers,
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Le Tue, May 03, 2011 at 05:21:06PM +0200, Matthias Klose a écrit :
>
> GCC usually has a twelve months release cycle, so you'll see the
> next set of missing include headers in spring 2012, and in Debian,
> if unstable isn't frozen by this time.
Thanks for the information.
I just got a bug from
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:30:41PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:46:11PM -0600, René Mayorga wrote:
> > > Yes, absolutely. I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for
> > > Debian is a priority.
> >
> > I do not agree on this, if the package is good eno
disagree with both of you, although indeed, unless explicitly
mentioned, PPAs should not be positioned as 'official', since they
are NOT.
we already have dozens of private repositories around, and it is not for
us to judge either they are of any use -- time and their use would show.
The role of PP
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:46:11PM -0600, René Mayorga wrote:
> > Yes, absolutely. I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for
> > Debian is a priority.
>
> I do not agree on this, if the package is good enough and has somebody willing
> to maintain it, the package may belong to the a
On Tue, 03 May 2011, Alessandro Ghedini wrote:
> > Or am I missing some substantial design issue which is still lacking
> > from http://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Guidelines
> Sounds like the "Debian Pure Blends" [0] [1], with the difference that they
> seem to use tasks instead of metapackages i
* René Mayorga (rmayo...@debian.org) [110503 22:52]:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> > On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:07:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> > >
> > > I think it would make quite sense to get something like e.g. ppa done for
> > > Debian. But that
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Samuel Thibault wrote:
>Lucas Nussbaum, le Mon 02 May 2011 13:31:31 +0200, a écrit :
>> How we deal with freezes is the hard point in this discussion. I'm
>> personnally in favor of the "freeze rolling for 3 months, then fork
>> frozen and unfreeze rolling" plan, though it has some problems too
>>
On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:07:24PM +0200, Andreas Barth wrote:
> >
> > I think it would make quite sense to get something like e.g. ppa done for
> > Debian. But thats something else than it's proposed here.
>
> Yes, absolutely.
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On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 12:23:45PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote:
> FWIW my 1 cent: the idea is really sound although a bit idealistic,
> because it goes inline with my utopian future of Debian: many
> derivatives are just customizations of Debian with varying level of
> additional custom extensi
* Lucas Nussbaum (lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net) [110503 11:47]:
> On 02/05/11 at 16:19 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> > Lucas Nussbaum writes:
> >
> > > [ Note that my position is based on the assumption that we have a share
> > > of DDs interested in rolling similar to the share of DDs interested in
>
Hi Lucas,
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:59:04PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> I think that one of the conclusions of the discussion from the last few
> days is that the freeze "blockage" has very good features that many of
> us are not willing to give up, like the ability to focus the DDs on
> worki
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 05:22:09PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:
> Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 15:56 +0200, Patrick Strasser a écrit :
> > schrieb Patrick Strasser am 2011-05-03 15:23:
> > > [..] details in the bug report.
> >
> > #625452
>
> Congratulations, you have added yet another bug on the pi
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 07:21:28AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> (Ccing -devel@, since I have been asked about that by others)
>
> On 03/05/11 at 01:16 +0200, Rene Engelhard wrote:
> > tag 624997 - wheezy
> > thanks
> >
> > On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 02:39:43PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > > So
Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 10:33 +0200, Milan P. Stanic a écrit :
> IMHO Debian is for the people who understand computers and are willing
> to invest some time to learn and "user friendly" distributions are for
> other more or less laymen people.
Certainly not. Debian is the universal Operating Syst
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 06:03:42PM +0200, A Mennucc wrote:
> The debdelta repository 'debdeltas.debian.net' has a new home! I thank
> a lot 'md' for hosting it in ftp.linux.it; and also 'ansgar' ,
> 'formorer' for offering a host.
>
> With a new server, the service should also be better: deltas s
"Milan P. Stanic" writes:
> I don't think that the Debian can beat Ubuntu in popularity on
> desktop/laptop field (not yet) and IMHO it should not even try that.
> IMHO Debian is for the people who understand computers and are willing
> to invest some time to learn and "user friendly" distributi
Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 17:23 +0200, Patrick Matthäi a écrit :
> > Congratulations, you have added yet another bug on the pile that no one
> > ever reads, since there are no real maintainers for poppler.
>
> Which doesn't mean, that there won't be a new maintainer in the future,
> who is willed t
FWIW my 1 cent: the idea is really sound although a bit idealistic,
because it goes inline with my utopian future of Debian: many
derivatives are just customizations of Debian with varying level of
additional custom extensions (often DFSG-compliant thus candidates for
inclusion into Debian proper)
Lucas Nussbaum writes:
> On 02/05/11 at 16:19 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
>> I'm very dubious. To take one example, if Debian stopped making stable
>> releases, it would no longer be usable at work, which would mean that
>> my ability to work in Debian would substantially decrease and quite
>> po
The debdelta repository 'debdeltas.debian.net' has a new home! I thank
a lot 'md' for hosting it in ftp.linux.it; and also 'ansgar' ,
'formorer' for offering a host.
With a new server, the service should also be better: deltas should be
available no more than 1 hour later than the corresponding d
Am 03.05.2011 17:22, schrieb Josselin Mouette:
Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 15:56 +0200, Patrick Strasser a écrit :
schrieb Patrick Strasser am 2011-05-03 15:23:
[..] details in the bug report.
#625452
Congratulations, you have added yet another bug on the pile that no one
ever reads, since there
On 03/05/2011 14:54, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
>
> What kind of guarantees are you looking for, exactly? Can you suggest
> ways to acquire them?
>
- That it won't affect stable in bad ways.
- preventing removals from testing is a no-go.
Quite honestly, I see no reason to continue feeding this threa
Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 15:56 +0200, Patrick Strasser a écrit :
> schrieb Patrick Strasser am 2011-05-03 15:23:
> > [..] details in the bug report.
>
> #625452
Congratulations, you have added yet another bug on the pile that no one
ever reads, since there are no real maintainers for poppler.
Che
On 05/03/2011 11:32 AM, Charles Plessy wrote:
the recent archive rebuild uncovered a large number of GCC 4.6 build failures
(that could been already forseen from Launchpad). In the long run, I find very
impressive the contribution from the major Linux distribution to their upstreams
for keeping
Hi there!
On Mon, 02 May 2011 03:03:51 +0200, Fernando Lemos wrote:
> 2011/5/1 Miroslav Suchý :
>> Dne 3.4.2011 18:08, Fernando Lemos napsal(a):
>>>
>>> * It doesn't have a good command-line interface
>>
>> It does have CLI interface. Those commands are bundled directly in
>> NetworkManager:
>> nm
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 01:31:24PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:41:35AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > It is clear from the discussion that there would be consequences. Some
> > would be negative, some positive. I think that we have now a pretty good
> > understandin
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:41:35AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
[...]
> I've always found it strange that, as a volunteer project, we are
> creating a product that is mainly used in professional
> environments.
[...]
I see that as a side effect. The same qualities of stable which lead
me to rely o
schrieb Patrick Strasser am 2011-05-03 15:23:
> [..] details in the bug report.
#625452
Patrick
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schrieb Patrick Strasser am 2011-05-02 19:20:
>> I want to report a bug, which occurs in two packages (okular, xpdf)
>> exactly the same way. It's a problem with rendering PDFs.
>> What would be the right way:
>
>> * File two bugs and refer to each other in a additional message
>> * File one bug
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 03:17:18PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 03/05/11 at 15:05 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > aptosid is just an example, I don't even know the distro, they may not
> > be the best choice, I just try to find alternates ideas. Note that I
> > don't think it takes more than
On 03/05/11 at 15:05 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> aptosid is just an example, I don't even know the distro, they may not
> be the best choice, I just try to find alternates ideas. Note that I
> don't think it takes more than 10 people to do the rolling distro like
> Joss propose it: snapshot uns
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 03:05:34PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:42:26PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > It's not as simple as "let's integrate aptosid". There are at least two
> > sides to this:
> > - integrate the developers community in Debian. They are probably ver
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 02:42:26PM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> On 03/05/11 at 13:31 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> > I've suggested integrating aptosid (or $derivative) people inside of
> > Debian as a way to provide rolling, I know that Joss did so on planet
> > too e.g. That has two very impo
On 03/05/11 at 13:31 +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote:
> I've suggested integrating aptosid (or $derivative) people inside of
> Debian as a way to provide rolling, I know that Joss did so on planet
> too e.g. That has two very important advantages:
> * it brings in new blood *now* (and not an hypothe
On 03/05/11 at 13:31 +0200, Mehdi Dogguy wrote:
> On 03/05/2011 11:41, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> > It is clear from the discussion that there would be consequences. Some
> > would be negative, some positive. I think that we have now a pretty good
> > understanding of the possibilities and their conse
On 03/05/11 at 13:38 +0200, sean finney wrote:
> Hi Lucas,
>
> I appreciate your effort to try and sum things up. However, I'd like
> to raise the point that the discussion was about more than just having a
> "rolling" and "user-oriented" testing release.
>
> The feedback that started (or at lea
Osamu Aoki wrote:
> On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 11:18:45PM +0200, Amaya wrote:
> > I guess I missed it (wonder how on earth...)
>
> Because you looked at okular first.
True :)
> okular uses libpoppler-qt4-3 which depends on libpoppler5.
> Even more convoluted for evince.
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A Mennucc schrieb am Tuesday, den 03. May 2011:
Hi,
> the debdelta service is experiencing some problems.
>
> There are two hosts involved: the first creates the deltas, and the
> second is a public http server 'bononia' that serves them (under a
> virtual host by the CNAME debdeltas.debian.net
* Cristian Henzel [2011-05-03 10:51]:
> > Er, no. Those of us using Debian in corporate environments desire high
> > stability, long-term support and defined, not to short, periods between
> > releases. The 2 years with the security support for currently about 4
> > years from the release date on
Hi Carsten,
A bit late on responding to your mails, but...
On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 01:56:14AM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote:
> > > So if we tell users to use this repository, we're going to have
> > > some users (I upgrade my servers to testing during the freeze and I
> > > would enable it if it was g
Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> Note that the alternatives are:
> - tag it 'sid'. But then, I would need to determine the root cause of
> each FTBFS, and when the status of the FTBFS changes in testing.
> - do not tag it. But then, it would be seen as affecting stable.
>
> What I would need is a way to
Le lundi 02 mai 2011 à 16:19 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
> I realize that we're often not on the mailing lists jumping up and down
> and advocating for our issues, in part because Debian works great for us
> and not much needs to be changed, but please remember that there are a
> *lot* of us usi
Hi Lucas,
I appreciate your effort to try and sum things up. However, I'd like
to raise the point that the discussion was about more than just having a
"rolling" and "user-oriented" testing release.
The feedback that started (or at least helped springboard) this massive
thread was that "when we'
On 03/05/2011 11:41, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> It is clear from the discussion that there would be consequences. Some
> would be negative, some positive. I think that we have now a pretty good
> understanding of the possibilities and their consequences. The remaining
> problem is to count DDs heads i
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:41:35AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote:
> It is clear from the discussion that there would be consequences. Some
> would be negative, some positive. I think that we have now a pretty good
> understanding of the possibilities and their consequences. The remaining
> problem is
On 03/05/2011 12:02, Neil Williams wrote:
>
> With such a large number of packages involved and the transition page
> being constructed from multiple dependency levels, is there a way of
> linking the transitions data from DDPO or having some other output
> which is organised on a per-developer /
On 05/03/2011 12:09 PM, Didier Raboud wrote:
> Sandro Tosi wrote:
>
>> Who do you expect to send such communication? the gcc maintainer? good
>> luck with that.
>
> Do we really need that type of public bashing on -devel ? Your gripes with
> Matthias are notorious enough to avoid the need to rep
Sandro Tosi wrote:
> Who do you expect to send such communication? the gcc maintainer? good
> luck with that.
Do we really need that type of public bashing on -devel ? Your gripes with
Matthias are notorious enough to avoid the need to repeat them all over the
place, IHMO.
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Dominic Hargreaves wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> On Sunday, in collaboration with the release team, I uploaded
> perl 5.12-6 to unstable. This necessarily causes around 400 packages
> to be uninstallable with the new perl. The release team will be
> scheduling binNMUs in
On 02/05/11 at 16:19 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
> Lucas Nussbaum writes:
>
> > [ Note that my position is based on the assumption that we have a share
> > of DDs interested in rolling similar to the share of DDs interested in
> > stable releases. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to know where w
Hi all,
On Sunday, in collaboration with the release team, I uploaded
perl 5.12-6 to unstable. This necessarily causes around 400 packages
to be uninstallable with the new perl. The release team will be
scheduling binNMUs in due course; in the meantime, if you find such a
package, there is no need
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 11:32, Charles Plessy wrote:
> However, given my experience of repetitive patching cycles with earlier GCC
> updates, it would be pointless to spend a lot of energy updating our packages
> now if it is only to realise in few weeks that the next GCC update would
> require yet
Dear Lucas and everybody,
the recent archive rebuild uncovered a large number of GCC 4.6 build failures
(that could been already forseen from Launchpad). In the long run, I find very
impressive the contribution from the major Linux distribution to their upstreams
for keeping them up to date with
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hi there,
the debdelta service is experiencing some problems.
There are two hosts involved: the first creates the deltas, and the
second is a public http server 'bononia' that serves them (under a
virtual host by the CNAME debdeltas.debian.net ).
Un
On Tue, 2011-05-03 at 09:47, Martin Wuertele wrote:
> * Cristian Henzel [2011-05-03 08:12]:
> > I'm a bit new to Debian but just wanted to add my $0.02 to this discussion,
> > since it's something that I personally find very interesting.
> > Firstly, I think the question should be, "which users wo
> Er, no. Those of us using Debian in corporate environments desire high
> stability, long-term support and defined, not to short, periods between
> releases. The 2 years with the security support for currently about 4
> years from the release date on is good if even a bit on the short side.
I was
* Cristian Henzel [2011-05-03 08:12]:
> I'm a bit new to Debian but just wanted to add my $0.02 to this discussion,
> since it's something that I personally find very interesting.
> Firstly, I think the question should be, "which users would be targeted by a
> rolling release?" I don't think ther
* Russ Allbery [2011-05-03 01:20]:
> Lucas Nussbaum writes:
>
> > [ Note that my position is based on the assumption that we have a share
> > of DDs interested in rolling similar to the share of DDs interested in
> > stable releases. Unfortunately, it's very difficult to know where we
> > stand
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