Viaggio al DebConf11

2011-05-04 Thread Giovanni Mascellani
Salve a tutti. Rapido sondaggio tra i DD italiani: tra quelli che pensano di andare a Banja Luka a fine luglio c'è qualcuno che si è già fatto un'idea di come viaggiare? A me al momento la soluzione migliore (considerando un po' di cose, in particolare praticità e costo) sembra quello di

Re: Solutions Linux 2011 (10, 11 et 12 mai)

2011-05-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Tue, 03 May 2011, Stéphan Gorget wrote: Solutions Linux approche à grand pas et j'ai finalement pu me libérer pour venir mercredi donner un coup de main sur le stand. Est-ce qu'il faut préparer des choses, où tout simplement arriver en avance où je sais pas ? Si tu as des choses sympas à

Re: Solutions Linux 2011 (10, 11 et 12 mai)

2011-05-04 Thread Stéphan Gorget
2011/5/4 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org: On Tue, 03 May 2011, Stéphan Gorget wrote: Solutions Linux approche à grand pas et j'ai finalement pu me libérer pour venir mercredi donner un coup de main sur le stand. Est-ce qu'il faut préparer des choses, où tout simplement arriver en avance où

Re: Solutions Linux 2011 (10, 11 et 12 mai)

2011-05-04 Thread kaliderus
J'ai bien un cluster HPC de + de 200 Tflops (Environ 1300 noeuds). Mais ca va pas être facile à déplacer. Peut être en photos ? Avec une note explicative sur la machine pour présenter des choses concrètes. Est-ce qu'il y aura des panneaux pour mettre des posters ou affiches ? -- To

Re: Solutions Linux 2011 (10, 11 et 12 mai)

2011-05-04 Thread chaica
On Wed, 4 May 2011 10:45:52 +0200, kaliderus kalide...@gmail.com wrote: J'ai bien un cluster HPC de + de 200 Tflops (Environ 1300 noeuds). Mais ca va pas être facile à déplacer. Peut être en photos ? Avec une note explicative sur la machine pour présenter des choses concrètes. Très bonne

Re: Solutions Linux 2011 (10, 11 et 12 mai)

2011-05-04 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 04/05/11 at 09:27 +0200, Stéphan Gorget wrote: 2011/5/4 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org: On Tue, 03 May 2011, Stéphan Gorget wrote: Solutions Linux approche à grand pas et j'ai finalement pu me libérer pour venir mercredi donner un coup de main sur le stand. Est-ce qu'il faut

Re: Solutions Linux 2011 (10, 11 et 12 mai)

2011-05-04 Thread Julien BLACHE
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote: Salut, Si tu as des choses sympas à montrer faisant tourner Debian, tu peux les emmener (plug computer, tablette, n900, ...). Sinon il n'y a besoin de rien de spécial. Attention à la fauche, tenez vos gadgets en laisse, ne les perdez jamais des yeux,

Re: Solutions Linux 2011 (10, 11 et 12 mai)

2011-05-04 Thread Stéphan Gorget
2011/5/4 Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net: On 04/05/11 at 09:27 +0200, Stéphan Gorget wrote: 2011/5/4 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org: On Tue, 03 May 2011, Stéphan Gorget wrote: Solutions Linux approche à grand pas et j'ai finalement pu me libérer pour venir mercredi donner un

Re: Solutions Linux 2011 (10, 11 et 12 mai)

2011-05-04 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 04/05/11 at 14:16 +0200, Stéphan Gorget wrote: 2011/5/4 Lucas Nussbaum lu...@lucas-nussbaum.net: On 04/05/11 at 09:27 +0200, Stéphan Gorget wrote: 2011/5/4 Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org: On Tue, 03 May 2011, Stéphan Gorget wrote: Solutions Linux approche à grand pas et j'ai

Inclusion de lib sous licence personnalisée

2011-05-04 Thread Éric Seigne
Bonsoir à tous, je participe au développement de logiciels libres pour les écoles primaires au travers du projet AbulÉdu. Nous avons fait le choix de bosser sur Qt depuis un peu plus d'un an et au fur et à mesure nous avançons dans différentes directions. En ce moment je cherche des solutions

Re: Inclusion de lib sous licence personnalisée

2011-05-04 Thread Éric Seigne
Le 04/05/2011 23:23, Laurent Fousse a écrit : Bonjour, * Éric Seigne [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:00:34PM +0200]: Pouvez-vous me confirmer qu'elle n'est pas libre au sens Debian/GNU ? Je ne vois pas de problème spécifique du point de vue de Debian, c'est une BSD 2-clauses. Bonsoir Laurent, Cyril

Re: Inclusion de lib sous licence personnalisée

2011-05-04 Thread Laurent Fousse
Bonjour, * Éric Seigne [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:00:34PM +0200]: Pouvez-vous me confirmer qu'elle n'est pas libre au sens Debian/GNU ? Je ne vois pas de problème spécifique du point de vue de Debian, c'est une BSD 2-clauses. Pouvez-vous me confirmer qu'avec un tout petit peu de bonne volonté

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:23:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: That depends on what you mean by 'issue'. I think exactly the issues that concern some people in Debian about packages of 'poor quality' being generated in an uncontrolled PPA system are happening with regularity in Ubuntu.

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Roland Mas
Mike Hommey, 2011-05-04 07:57:47 +0200 : [...] Add to that that allowing random people to upload packages to be built on Debian build daemons is a recipe to have the buildds compromised. My initial idea about how one would go about implementing them involved very strict isolation of the

Re: Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 18:19 +0100, Ben Hutchings a écrit : Where is your RFH bug? I’m not the maintainer. I’m just one of the guys who happen to upload it when it gets too outdated. -- .''`. Josselin Mouette : :' : `. `' “If you behave this way because you are blackmailed by someone,

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt
Heya, Roland Mas lola...@debian.org writes: Mike Hommey, 2011-05-04 07:57:47 +0200: Add to that that allowing random people to upload packages to be built on Debian build daemons is a recipe to have the buildds compromised. My initial idea about how one would go about implementing them

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Brian May
On 4 May 2011 15:23, Scott Kitterman deb...@kitterman.com wrote: That depends on what you mean by 'issue'. I think exactly the issues that concern some people in Debian about packages of 'poor quality' being generated in an uncontrolled PPA system are happening with regularity in Ubuntu.

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Adam Borowski
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:42:16AM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:10:48AM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Sounds like http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12518 which is fixed (sort of) by commit 0354e355 (2011-04-01). Oh my word. So glibc 2.13 breaks

Re: Bug#598406: ITP: vavoom -- The most advanced Doom/Heretic/Hexen/Strife source port around!

2011-05-04 Thread Jon Dowland
[ Cc: debian-devel-ga...@lists.debian.org FYI ] On Tue, Sep 28, 2010 at 04:14:11PM -0300, gustavo panizzo wrote: Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: gustavo panizzo g...@zumbi.com.ar * Package name: vavoom Version : 1.32-1 Upstream Author : Janis Legzdinsh

Re: Reporting same bug in different packages

2011-05-04 Thread Patrick Strasser
schrieb Josselin Mouette am 2011-05-03 17:22: Le mardi 03 mai 2011 à 15:56 +0200, Patrick Strasser a écrit : Congratulations, you have added yet another bug on the pile that no one ever reads, since there are no real maintainers for poppler. Now that's really bad. Alternatives? Reporting

Bug#625538: general: Monitor turns off even if in gnome-screensaver and gnome-power i disalbe automatic turning off.

2011-05-04 Thread Alessandro Sardone
Package: general Severity: normal Even if through gnome-screensaver-preferences and gnome-power-preference I disable the screensaver and the automatic turning off of the monitor, when I'm away the monitor became blank and black. -- System Information: Debian Release: 6.0.1 APT prefers

Bug#625538: general: Monitor turns off even if in gnome-screensaver and gnome-power i disalbe automatic turning off.

2011-05-04 Thread Holger Levsen
reassign 625538 gnome thanks On Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2011, Alessandro Sardone wrote: Package: general Severity: normal Even if through gnome-screensaver-preferences and gnome-power-preference I disable the screensaver and the automatic turning off of the monitor, when I'm away the monitor

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Roland Mas
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt, 2011-05-04 10:42:31 +0200 : Heya, Roland Mas lola...@debian.org writes: Mike Hommey, 2011-05-04 07:57:47 +0200: Add to that that allowing random people to upload packages to be built on Debian build daemons is a recipe to have the buildds compromised. My initial

Bug#625538: general: Monitor turns off even if in gnome-screensaver and gnome-power i disalbe automatic turning off.

2011-05-04 Thread Roger Leigh
reassign 625538 gnome-power-manager merge 370692 625538 thanks This is a known bug in gnome-power-manager. Regards, Roger On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:16:25AM +0200, Holger Levsen wrote: reassign 625538 gnome thanks On Mittwoch, 4. Mai 2011, Alessandro Sardone wrote: Package: general

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 04 May 2011, Adam Borowski wrote: I'd instead propose to sacrifice a tiny amount of cycles to check for overlapping and abort()ing so buggy code can be fixed. Random instability is the worst kind of error, a clean crash is easy to fix. Heck, we can even make a change just before

new experimental debdelta feature --format=unzipped

2011-05-04 Thread A Mennucc
Dear all, I just uploaded into experimental a new version 0.42exp of debdelta ( you may find some binaries also in [3] ). This version adds an experimental feature : if you call 'debdelta-upgrade' with the option '--format=unzipped' , then in the recreated deb the data.tar part will not be

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Le 04/05/2011 11:48, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : On Wed, 04 May 2011, Adam Borowski wrote: I'd instead propose to sacrifice a tiny amount of cycles to check for overlapping and abort()ing so buggy code can be fixed. Random instability is the worst kind of error, a clean crash is easy to fix.

Processed: Bug#625538: general: Monitor turns off even if in gnome-screensaver and gnome-power i disalbe automatic turning off.

2011-05-04 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Processing commands for cont...@bugs.debian.org: reassign 625538 gnome-power-manager Bug #625538 [general] general: Monitor turns off even if in gnome-screensaver and gnome-power i disalbe automatic turning off. Bug reassigned from package 'general' to 'gnome-power-manager'. merge 370692

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Julien BLACHE
Steve M. Robbins st...@sumost.ca wrote: Hi, I'm with Linus on this: let's just revert to the old behaviour. A tiny amount of clock cycles saved isn't worth the instability. Tiny amount?! The optimized memcpy() variants that break shitty code bring a 4 to 5x speedup on the processors they've

Re: time based freezes

2011-05-04 Thread Abou Al Montacir
On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 20:00 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2011-04-24, Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote: Dear Release Team ... good luck in proposing a freeze month now :-) I would propose mid september or mid-march. That's just after 2nd patch release of new set of releases by

Re: Multiarch, policy and cross-compiler libraries for non-Debian architectures

2011-05-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Steve Langasek vor...@debian.org writes: On Mon, May 02, 2011 at 06:09:17PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote: Also the libc6-msp430-dev:all and libc6-dev:msp430 packages will both be using /usr/inlcude/msp430 triplet/ and already trigger the problem you fear. No, libc6-msp430-dev would use

Re: Debian rolling: tentative summary

2011-05-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette josselin.moue...@ens-lyon.org writes: Le lundi 02 mai 2011 à 19:31 +0200, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : To those users that want newer software my next question would be What software?. My feeling there is that it is only some software, allways the same software and used

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl writes: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:42:16AM -0500, Steve M. Robbins wrote: I'm with Linus on this: let's just revert to the old behaviour. A tiny amount of clock cycles saved isn't worth the instability. I'd instead propose to sacrifice a tiny amount of

Re: Integrating aptosid?

2011-05-04 Thread Andreas Tille
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 05:32:41PM -0400, Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: On Tue, 03 May 2011, Alessandro Ghedini wrote: Or am I missing some substantial design issue which is still lacking from http://wiki.debian.org/Derivatives/Guidelines Sounds like the Debian Pure Blends [0] [1], with the

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread sean finney
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:29:50PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: Steve M. Robbins st...@sumost.ca wrote: Hi, I'm with Linus on this: let's just revert to the old behaviour. A tiny amount of clock cycles saved isn't worth the instability. Tiny amount?! The optimized memcpy() variants

Re: Qt3 looking for adopters

2011-05-04 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
You miss qucs for instance. I suppose qt3 is near bug free ? Could help to maintain but in team Bastien On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: Hi, kdelibs3 was removed recently from the archive and the last tiny bit of KDE 3 remaining, aRts, will be removed

Re: Qt3 looking for adopters

2011-05-04 Thread Ana Guerrero
On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: Hi, kdelibs3 was removed recently from the archive and the last tiny bit of KDE 3 remaining, aRts, will be removed quite soon. This means the KDE team is not longer interested in Qt3 and we are looking for new

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 04 May 2011, Aurelien Jarno wrote: Le 04/05/2011 11:48, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : So it's best if you consider unstable always in production-mode by default. So how do you plan to detect bugs if you never enable a feature? Really abort()ing is not a nice behaviour, it would be way

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Le 04/05/2011 14:06, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : a nice behaviour, it would be way better to print a warning and fallback to a correct behaviour. Users can then report the problems without experiencing a non working-application. Printing a warning on a thing that is potentially used everywhere,

A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Hi, during the recent discussions about rolling, a proposal was made in a blog comment, and after giving it some quick thoughts, most people I’ve talked with seem to think it is a good idea, so it’s time for it to be discussed at large. It starts from the following fact: if you want a testing

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Le 04/05/2011 07:42, Steve M. Robbins a écrit : On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:10:48AM -0500, Jonathan Nieder wrote: Sounds like http://sourceware.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=12518 which is fixed (sort of) by commit 0354e355 (2011-04-01). Oh my word. So glibc 2.13 breaks random binaries that

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Thomas Preud'homme
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 14:23:19, Aurelien Jarno a écrit : Le 04/05/2011 14:06, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : a nice behaviour, it would be way better to print a warning and fallback to a correct behaviour. Users can then report the problems without experiencing a non working-application.

Re: time based freezes

2011-05-04 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Abou Al Montacir, 2011-05-04] On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 20:00 +, Sune Vuorela wrote: On 2011-04-24, Stefano Zacchiroli lea...@debian.org wrote: Dear Release Team ... good luck in proposing a freeze month now :-) I would propose mid september or mid-march. That's just after 2nd patch

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Josselin Mouette, 2011-05-04] This would be a pseudo-suite, like experimental. Except that while experimental is built on top of unstable and filled manually by maintainers, rolling would be built on top of testing and filled semi-automatically. A rolling system would have typically 2 APT

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Didier Raboud
Piotr Ożarowski wrote: [Josselin Mouette, 2011-05-04] This would be a pseudo-suite, like experimental. Except that while experimental is built on top of unstable and filled manually by maintainers, rolling would be built on top of testing and filled semi-automatically. A rolling system would

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, I came to the same conclusion than you after the discussion we had in the comments of your article. I think it's the right approach. I still have a few comments though. On Wed, 04 May 2011, Josselin Mouette wrote: It starts from the following fact: if you want a testing system that works

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Piotr Ożarowski
[Didier Raboud, 2011-05-04] While I agree with the demotivation stance, why can't those packages be uploaded to experimental, fwiw ? because that's not what experimental is for and it's harder to use it (did you notice that python3.2 is in experimental or did someone gave you proper

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Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 15:30 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : On Wed, 04 May 2011, Josselin Mouette wrote: It starts from the following fact: if you want a testing system that works correctly, you usually have to add APT lines for unstable, while pinning them to only install specific

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Jon Dowland
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:48:33AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: While I can sympathize with this (it's what I want as a developer), it's certainly not a good idea in Debian in general: we have many derivatives taking unstable/testing at various points in time, and we also want to make testing

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Aurelien Jarno aurel...@aurel32.net writes: Le 04/05/2011 14:06, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : a nice behaviour, it would be way better to print a warning and fallback to a correct behaviour. Users can then report the problems without experiencing a non working-application. Printing a warning

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Aurelien Jarno
Le 04/05/2011 16:02, Goswin von Brederlow a écrit : Aurelien Jarno aurel...@aurel32.net writes: Le 04/05/2011 14:06, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : a nice behaviour, it would be way better to print a warning and fallback to a correct behaviour. Users can then report the problems without

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Wed, 04 May 2011, Josselin Mouette wrote: It doesn't need to be a pseudo-suite. It's a collection of packages taken in testing or unstable, it's not more complicated to make it a full suite. It cannot be “just” a full suite. When you add a package coming from unstable, you must also

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Goswin von Brederlow
Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: This way, when something is broken in testing and cannot be unbroken quickly, a maintainer who notices it could add (or make the people in charge add) the necessary packages to the override file. If, for a reason or another, an important bug fix or a

Re: Qt3 looking for adopters

2011-05-04 Thread Bastien ROUCARIES
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 1:55 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: On Sun, May 1, 2011 at 7:56 PM, Ana Guerrero a...@debian.org wrote: Hi, kdelibs3 was removed recently from the archive and the last tiny bit of KDE 3 remaining, aRts, will be removed quite soon. This means the KDE

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Piotr Ożarowski dijo [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 03:22:07PM +0200]: [Josselin Mouette, 2011-05-04] This would be a pseudo-suite, like experimental. Except that while experimental is built on top of unstable and filled manually by maintainers, rolling would be built on top of testing and filled

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Hi, (you already know, but let's state that on dd@ too) Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org (04/05/2011): during the recent discussions about rolling, a proposal was made in a blog comment, and after giving it some quick thoughts, most people I’ve talked with seem to think it is a good idea, so

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread René Mayorga
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 08:28:00AM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:23:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: I believe Debian is quite correct to be concerned about the potential for user confusion and damage to Debian's reputation for high quality work. PPAs

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 04:49:42PM +0200, Jan Hauke Rahm wrote: On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 01:31:24PM +0200, Pierre Habouzit wrote: On Tue, May 03, 2011 at 11:41:35AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum wrote: It is clear from the discussion that there would be consequences. Some would be negative, some

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 16:20 +0200, Raphael Hertzog a écrit : A full suite can have 2 versions of the same source package and can contain both libgnomekbd4 and libgnomekbd7. It's not a problem. OK, so I officially do not care a shit™. What the britney-like thing could do is bring

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:24:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: The new “rolling” suite --- This would be a pseudo-suite, like experimental. Except that while experimental is built on top of unstable and filled manually by maintainers, rolling would be built on top

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Stefano Zacchiroli dijo [Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 12:56:15PM +0200]: I think it would make quite sense to get something like e.g. ppa done for Debian. But thats something else than it's proposed here. Yes, absolutely. I'd even dare to say that having something like PPA for Debian is a

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Paul Tagliamonte dijo [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:16:54AM -0400]: AFAIU, only DD and DM could create PPA and upload to them. If this is not the case, then I share your fears. Usage of the PPA system on LP requires that you agree to the usage terms (not unlike machine usage policies for

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt dijo [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:42:31AM +0200]: (...) If anyone would have actually read the PPA proposal, they would know that uploads were and are intended to be restricted to DDs and DMs (which can break buildds anyway, if they want) and building should happen in

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 12:34:45 PM Gunnar Wolf wrote: Paul Tagliamonte dijo [Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:16:54AM -0400]: AFAIU, only DD and DM could create PPA and upload to them. If this is not the case, then I share your fears. Usage of the PPA system on LP requires that you agree to

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Ansgar Burchardt
Hi, Josselin Mouette j...@debian.org writes: The new “rolling” suite --- This would be a pseudo-suite, like experimental. Except that while experimental is built on top of unstable and filled manually by maintainers, rolling would be built on top of testing and filled

Re: Bits from the Release Team - Kicking off Wheezy

2011-05-04 Thread Gunnar Wolf
Marc 'HE' Brockschmidt dijo [Mon, May 02, 2011 at 09:15:38AM +0200]: I understand members of the release team feel particularly responsible to do various release-critical tasks that should have been done by the maintainers but haven't (for various reasons). And I guess that's the reason of

Bug#625636: ITP: mccs -- multi-critera CUDF solver

2011-05-04 Thread Ralf Treinen
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Ralf Treinen trei...@debian.org * Package name: mccs Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Claude Michel c...@polytech.unice.fr * URL : http://users.polytech.unice.fr/~cpjm/misc/mccs.html * License : BSD Programming Lang: C

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Russ Allbery
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 11:48:33AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: While I can sympathize with this (it's what I want as a developer), it's certainly not a good idea in Debian in general: we have many derivatives taking unstable/testing at various points in

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 04/05/11 at 14:24 +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Hi, during the recent discussions about rolling, a proposal was made in a blog comment, and after giving it some quick thoughts, most people I’ve talked with seem to think it is a good idea, so it’s time for it to be discussed at large.

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 03:30:40PM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: On Wed, 04 May 2011, Josselin Mouette wrote: It starts from the following fact: if you want a testing system that works correctly, you usually have to add APT lines for unstable, while pinning them to only install specific

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 22:12 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : While I like the idea in general, I think that it should also be possible to upload packages directly to rolling (through rolling-proposed-updates). It will be useful in cases where neither the package in testing, not the package

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 22:12 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : While I like the idea in general, I think that it should also be possible to upload packages directly to rolling (through rolling-proposed-updates). It will be

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:17:03PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: If you want to go ahead with patching britney, by all means go ahead, as it might provide patches useful for the main brintey as well. But if you want to try some alternatives, we can probably help. I don't think you need to

Re: PPAs for Debian

2011-05-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:23:12AM -0400, Scott Kitterman wrote: PPAs as a developer tool are one thing, PPAs as a tool for random uploads, I think are quite another. I'd hate to see Debian make the same mistake that Canonical did in this regard. PPA on Debian infrastructure should be

Bug#625652: ITP: morfeusz -- morphological analyser of Polish

2011-05-04 Thread Jakub Wilk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Jakub Wilk jw...@debian.org * Package name: morfeusz Version : 20110416 Upstream Author : Zygmunt Saloni, Włodzimierz Gruszczyński, Marcin Woliński, Robert Wołosz * URL : http://sgjp.pl/morfeusz/ * License

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Carsten Hey
* Pierre Habouzit [2011-05-04 22:23 +0200]: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 22:12 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : While I like the idea in general, I think that it should also be possible to upload packages directly to rolling

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Scott Kitterman
On Wednesday, May 04, 2011 04:25:35 PM Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:24:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: What to do during freezes - If we want to do something different though, there is a simple recipe: allow packages to be picked

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Cristian Henzel
What to do during freezes - I’m not sure we really need to do something different in times of freeze. Our time would be better spent by reducing the freeze time and making it more predictable; squeeze has been an awesome step in this direction. If we want to do

Re: gtkpod packaging dependencies

2011-05-04 Thread phantomjinx
On 02/05/11 22:22, Matteo F. Vescovi wrote: Hi! On 02/05/2011 20:54, phantomjinx wrote: Hi, Someone with the handle 'mfv' came into the gtkpod irc channel wondering about gtkpod dependencies as he was packaging it for debian. It was me :-) Sorry if I didn't wait long enough for your

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread sean finney
Hiya, On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:25:35PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:24:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: What to do during freezes - If we want to do something different though, there is a simple recipe: allow packages to be

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Fernando Lemos
On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:40 PM, sean finney sean...@debian.org wrote: [...] On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:25:35PM +0200, Stefano Zacchiroli wrote: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 02:24:12PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote:   What to do during freezes   - If we want to do

Has anyone attempted a tomcat7 package?

2011-05-04 Thread Ernesto Hernández-Novich
I've been trying to build a tomcat7 package based on the existing tomcat6 package. After fiddling with it for a while, I've managed to build what looks like a working binary, but I get a backtrace when the services starts. The relevant part of the backtrace is java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError:

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 12:29:50PM +0200, Julien BLACHE wrote: Steve M. Robbins st...@sumost.ca wrote: Hi, I'm with Linus on this: let's just revert to the old behaviour. A tiny amount of clock cycles saved isn't worth the instability. Tiny amount?! The optimized memcpy() variants

Re: glibc: causes segfault in Xorg

2011-05-04 Thread Steve M. Robbins
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 01:34:15PM +0200, sean finney wrote: And furthermore, even if Debian chooses to fix this, upstreams will be forced to eventually cater to the default glibc behavior for every other libc distro out there that does not have their own fix (and non-libc OS's where this

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:48:46PM +0200, Carsten Hey wrote: * Pierre Habouzit [2011-05-04 22:23 +0200]: On Wed, May 04, 2011 at 10:19:45PM +0200, Josselin Mouette wrote: Le mercredi 04 mai 2011 à 22:12 +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : While I like the idea in general, I think that it

Re: A concrete proposal for rolling implementation

2011-05-04 Thread Pierre Habouzit
On Thu, May 05, 2011 at 12:05:22AM +0300, Cristian Henzel wrote: What to do during freezes - I’m not sure we really need to do something different in times of freeze. Our time would be better spent by reducing the freeze time and making it more predictable;

Accepted bobcat 2.15.00-1 (source i386)

2011-05-04 Thread Frank B. Brokken
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 15:14:57 +0200 Source: bobcat Binary: libbobcat2 libbobcat-dev Architecture: source i386 Version: 2.15.00-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Frank B. Brokken f.b.brok...@rug.nl Changed-By: Frank B.

Accepted expeyes 1.0.3-2 (source all)

2011-05-04 Thread Georges Khaznadar
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 07:22:18 +0200 Source: expeyes Binary: expeyes expeyes-firmware-dev python-expeyes expeyes-doc-en expeyes-doc-fr Architecture: source all Version: 1.0.3-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Georges

Accepted libnss-db 2.2.3pre1-3.2 (source amd64)

2011-05-04 Thread Aurelien Jarno
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 07:31:48 +0200 Source: libnss-db Binary: libnss-db Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.2.3pre1-3.2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Piotr Roszatycki dex...@debian.org Changed-By: Aurelien Jarno

Accepted svgalib 1:1.4.3-31 (source amd64)

2011-05-04 Thread Guillem Jover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 06:41:22 +0200 Source: svgalib Binary: svgalib-bin libsvga1 libsvga1-dev Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1:1.4.3-31 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Guillem Jover guil...@debian.org Changed-By:

Accepted mpop 1.0.24-2 (source amd64)

2011-05-04 Thread Emmanuel Bouthenot
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 18:57:16 +0200 Source: mpop Binary: mpop mpop-gnome Architecture: source amd64 Version: 1.0.24-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Emmanuel Bouthenot kol...@debian.org Changed-By: Emmanuel Bouthenot

Accepted blender 2.57.2-svn36339-1 (source amd64)

2011-05-04 Thread Kevin Roy
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Mon, 02 May 2011 15:18:20 +0200 Source: blender Binary: blender blender-dbg Architecture: source amd64 Version: 2.57.2-svn36339-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Kevin Roy kin...@gmail.com Changed-By: Kevin Roy

Accepted debdelta 0.42exp (source i386)

2011-05-04 Thread A Mennucc1
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 11:04:55 +0200 Source: debdelta Binary: debdelta Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.42exp Distribution: experimental Urgency: low Maintainer: A Mennucc1 mennu...@debian.org Changed-By: A Mennucc1

Accepted dpkg 1.16.0.3 (source all amd64)

2011-05-04 Thread Guillem Jover
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 10:01:30 +0200 Source: dpkg Binary: libdpkg-dev dpkg dpkg-dev libdpkg-perl dselect Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1.16.0.3 Distribution: unstable Urgency: medium Maintainer: Dpkg Developers

Accepted handlersocket 1.0.6-80-g88bf1e0-1 (source all amd64)

2011-05-04 Thread Clint Byrum
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Tue, 03 May 2011 10:24:20 -0700 Source: handlersocket Binary: handlersocket-mysql-5.1 handlersocket-doc libhsclient-dev libnet-handlersocket-perl Architecture: source amd64 all Version: 1.0.6-80-g88bf1e0-1 Distribution: unstable

Accepted jack-mixer 9-2 (source amd64)

2011-05-04 Thread Alessio Treglia
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 09:28:29 +0200 Source: jack-mixer Binary: jack-mixer Architecture: source amd64 Version: 9-2 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Debian Multimedia Maintainers

Accepted libopenraw 0.0.8-3 (source i386)

2011-05-04 Thread David Paleino
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 10:10:29 +0200 Source: libopenraw Binary: libopenraw-dev libopenraw1 libopenraw1-dbg libopenrawgnome1 libopenrawgnome-dev libopenrawgnome1-dbg Architecture: source i386 Version: 0.0.8-3 Distribution: unstable

Accepted mew-beta 7.0.50~6.3.50+0.20110325-1 (source all i386)

2011-05-04 Thread Tatsuya Kinoshita
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 17:50:09 +0900 Source: mew-beta Binary: mew-beta mew-beta-bin Architecture: source all i386 Version: 7.0.50~6.3.50+0.20110325-1 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Tatsuya Kinoshita t...@debian.org

Accepted mhddfs 0.1.38 (source amd64)

2011-05-04 Thread Dmitry E. Oboukhov
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: RIPEMD160 Format: 1.8 Date: Wed, 04 May 2011 12:23:01 +0400 Source: mhddfs Binary: mhddfs Architecture: source amd64 Version: 0.1.38 Distribution: unstable Urgency: low Maintainer: Dmitry E. Oboukhov un...@debian.org Changed-By: Dmitry E. Oboukhov

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