Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread The Fungi
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 10:41:07AM +0700, Ivan Shmakov wrote: > AIUI, the .postinst scripts may be re-executed with > dpkg-reconfigure(8). [...] In fact, for years I've relied on precisely this behavior to regenerate SSH host keys when cloning machines (virtual or physical)... sudo rm /etc/ssh

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Daniel Baumann writes: > On 07/26/2011 12:33 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: >> Well, isn't it simply about not configuring a few packages? > no; see openssh-server.postinst, in the discussed use-case you want > to run everything in there except the creation of the host keys. > the onl

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Kyle Moffett
On Jul 26, 2011, at 19:38, Charles Plessy wrote: > Le Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:28:29AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : >>> >>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported? >>> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and >>> included since Squeeze. >>> - Vmware has a sign

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Tom Heady
Hello Charles, Some unofficial Debian AMIs are already being produced, see http://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image I have updated that list with the most recently created images in all regions. Thanks for reminding me of it To enable secure SSH login, booting after kernel update, an

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Charles Plessy
(CCed people involved in the two following URLs:) http://bugs.debian.org/592550 http://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image Le Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 09:28:29AM +0200, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : > > > > What virtualisation solutions should be supported? > > - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidat

Bug#635547: ITP: ocaml-dssi -- OCaml interface to DSSI plugins

2011-07-26 Thread Romain Beauxis
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Romain Beauxis * Package name: ocaml-dssi Version : 0.1.0 Upstream Author : The Savonet Team * URL : http://savonet.sf.net/ * License : gPL Programming Lang: OCaml Description : OCaml interface to DSSI plugins

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Daniel Baumann schrieb: > On 07/26/2011 12:27 AM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: >> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official >> virtualisation images. > > we have worked on that with debian-live (both producing live and > 'non-live' images; the only difference is that li

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Jon Dowland schrieb: > Perhaps a Debian web service could spit out custom VM definitions alongside > the > image file in a chosen disk format for users on-demand? > > For starters, compressed RAW disk format is perhaps the most useful disk image > format (can be imported into virtually anything)

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Ian Campbell schrieb: > On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: >> Hi, >> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official >> virtualisation images. [...] >> Do people think this is relevant and are willing to work on providing >> one of the images? If

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Stefano Zacchiroli schrieb: > Additionally, I think we should also consider getting contacts with > "cloud providers" (e.g. Amazon, as mentioned in this thread) and have > them offer Debian images provided by us. Some of those provider already > offer, possibly via third parties, Debian virtualiz

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Lars Wirzenius schrieb: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: >> What virtualisation solutions should be supported? >> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and >> included since Squeeze. >> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is re

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
debian schrieb: > For now I would recommend against pre-configured Citrix XenServer > releases. I am a Citrix CCNA and I would not recommend that for this > very reason. Debian is best set up in Citrix Xenserver from scratch. Is there a technical reason or is this personal preference? The i

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Michael Tokarev schrieb: >>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported? >>> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and >>> included since Squeeze. >>> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is relevant, although >>> proprietary >>> - Microsoft Virtual PC i

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Vincent Bernat schrieb: > --=-=-= > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > > OoO En cette matin=C3=A9e ensoleill=C3=A9e du mardi 26 juillet 2011, vers= > 09:28, > Lucas Nussbaum disait=C2=A0: > >>> What virtualisation solutions should be support

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Ivan Shmakov
> Moritz Mühlenhoff writes: > Hi, I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of > official virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs currently > provided it allows a quicker evaluation/testing of Debian (and can > also be very useful for testing (e. g. someone wro

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Steffen Möller
On 07/26/2011 09:53 AM, Olivier Bonvalet wrote: > Le 26/07/2011 09:28, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : >> On 26/07/11 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: >>> Hi, >>> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of >>> official >>> virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs curren

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Karl Goetz schrieb: >> I think it's sufficient for starters to provide images for stable >> (they can be updated for every few point updates if needed). >>=20 >> What virtualisation solutions should be supported? > >> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is relevant, although >> propri

Re: Bug#635516: ITP: dvdstyler -- DVD authoring and burning tool

2011-07-26 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 17:44:55 (CEST), Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > Reinhard Tartler schrieb: >> On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:02:42 (CEST), Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: >> >>> Package: wnpp >>> Severity: wishlist >>> Owner: Moritz Muehlenhoff >>> >>> * Package name: dvdstyler >>> Version

Re: Bug#635516: ITP: dvdstyler -- DVD authoring and burning tool

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Reinhard Tartler schrieb: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:02:42 (CEST), Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > >> Package: wnpp >> Severity: wishlist >> Owner: Moritz Muehlenhoff >> >> * Package name: dvdstyler >> Version : 1.8.4.2 >> Upstream Author : Alex Thuering >> * URL : http

Re: Bug#635516: ITP: dvdstyler -- DVD authoring and burning tool

2011-07-26 Thread Reinhard Tartler
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 16:02:42 (CEST), Moritz Muehlenhoff wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Moritz Muehlenhoff > > * Package name: dvdstyler > Version : 1.8.4.2 > Upstream Author : Alex Thuering > * URL : http://dvdstyler.sf.net > * License

Bug#635516: ITP: dvdstyler -- DVD authoring and burning tool

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Muehlenhoff
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Moritz Muehlenhoff * Package name: dvdstyler Version : 1.8.4.2 Upstream Author : Alex Thuering * URL : http://dvdstyler.sf.net * License : GPL2 Programming Lang: C++ Description : DVD authoring and burning tool

Bug#635510: ITP: libio-pty-easy-perl -- Easy interface to IO::Pty

2011-07-26 Thread Julien VAUBOURG
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien VAUBOURG * Package name: libio-pty-easy-perl Version : 0.08 Upstream Author : Jesse Luehrs * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~doy/IO-Pty-Easy-0.08/ * License : Artistic 1, GPL 1 Programming Lang: Perl Descriptio

Re: DEP5 public-domain Question

2011-07-26 Thread Dominique Dumont
On Tuesday 26 July 2011 13:12:53 Jonathan Yu wrote: > Does that mean that License: PD won't work with config-edit? No. Here's an example that works (PD license defined in Files section): ++ Files: * Copyright: 2009, foo bar License: PD Lots of explanations ++ This wi

Bug#635509: ITP: libmoosex-followpbp-perl -- Name your accessors get_foo() and set_foo()

2011-07-26 Thread Julien VAUBOURG
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Julien VAUBOURG * Package name: libmoosex-followpbp-perl Version : 0.05 Upstream Author : Dave Rolsky * URL : http://search.cpan.org/~drolsky/MooseX-FollowPBP-0.05/ * License : Artistic 2.0 Programming Lang: Perl De

Bug#635504: ITP: flashcache -- write back block device cache for Linux

2011-07-26 Thread Arno Töll
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: "Arno Töll" * Package name: flashcache Version : 1.0 Upstream Author : Mohan Srinivasan * URL : https://github.com/facebook/flashcache * License : GPL-2 Programming Lang:

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 07/26/2011 12:27 AM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official > virtualisation images. we have worked on that with debian-live (both producing live and 'non-live' images; the only difference is that live-* is not installed in the rootf

Re: DEP5 public-domain Question

2011-07-26 Thread Jonathan Yu
Hi Dominique, > To satisfy DEP5 model constraints, you need to spell out the terms of the > licence you want to use. Etheir as a "License: public-domain" stand-alone > section or as text in the File section (after the License: line in the file > section). Does that mean that License: PD won't wor

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 02:34:18PM +0400, Michael Tokarev wrote: > The only problem is that raw images may be large(ish). For that, > create as small as possible file, to fit stuff almost exactly, > and recommend resizing it. Maybe... :) I'm fairly sure that compressed RAW is not much larger tha

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Michael Tokarev
26.07.2011 02:46, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: >> What virtualisation solutions should be supported? >> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and >> included since Squeeze. >> - Vmware has a significant installed

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 07/26/2011 12:33 PM, Samuel Thibault wrote: > Well, isn't it simply about not configuring a few packages? no; see openssh-server.postinst, in the discussed use-case you want to run everything in there except the creation of the host keys. the only left problem to work out is to define a way so

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread Samuel Thibault
Daniel Baumann, le Tue 26 Jul 2011 12:30:29 +0200, a écrit : > On 07/26/2011 12:23 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > > I would suggest a package such as "debian-oem-prep", which > > contains an init script, which tests a file such a > > /etc/wipe-all-traces-on-next-boot. If that files exists, all > >

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 07/26/2011 12:23 PM, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > I would suggest a package such as "debian-oem-prep", which > contains an init script, which tests a file such a > /etc/wipe-all-traces-on-next-boot. If that files exists, all > sensitive host data like existing SSH hosts is being removed, > and de

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread Daniel Baumann
On 07/26/2011 12:03 PM, Paul Wise wrote: > I was talking with Daniel Baumann about how Debian Live approaches > this problem and I think he said Debian Live has some scripts to > remove them after installation. no rocket science involved, we simply just remove them during build (live-build) and cr

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Ian Campbell
On Tue, 2011-07-26 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > Hi, > I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official > virtualisation images. [...] > Do people think this is relevant and are willing to work on providing > one of the images? If so, we could arrange a BoF at

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Paul Wise schrieb: > So, I was wondering if anyone has any ideas on this topic? I would suggest a package such as "debian-oem-prep", which contains an init script, which tests a file such a /etc/wipe-all-traces-on-next-boot. If that files exists, all sensitive host data like existing SSH hosts i

Re: support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-07-26 at 12:03pm, Paul Wise wrote: > One big problem with existing live images, VM images, "cloud" images > and images for mobile/tablet devices outside of Debian has been the > provision of OpenSSH private keys within the image file. Obviously > this is a huge fail. > > I was talking wit

support for installing unconfigured systems (VM images, Debian Live images, preinstalled mobile/tablet images)

2011-07-26 Thread Paul Wise
Hi all, One big problem with existing live images, VM images, "cloud" images and images for mobile/tablet devices outside of Debian has been the provision of OpenSSH private keys within the image file. Obviously this is a huge fail. I was talking with Daniel Baumann about how Debian Live approach

Re: DEP5 public-domain Question

2011-07-26 Thread Dominique Dumont
Since others have replied regarding the content of the DEP-5 file, I'll focus on DEP-5 parser On Wednesday 20 July 2011 15:39:09 Yaroslav Halchenko wrote: > Also, the DEP5 checker has no clue about public-domain as a short > license either: > > $> config-edit -application dpkg-copyright -ui none

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2011-07-26 at 11:15 +0200, Luca Capello wrote: > On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:46:47 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > >> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of > official > >> virtualisation images. >

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Philipp Hagemeister
Jon Dowland wrote: > The VM definition file is trickier. qemu/kvm essentially don't have one; you > would supply command-line arguments to the tool. virsh/libvirt/virt-manager et > al sitting on top of KVM have an XML definition. VMWare uses an XML definition. > I suspect VirtualBox does as well.

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Evgeni Golov
On 07/26/2011 02:00 AM, Tony Godshall wrote: >>> What virtualisation solutions should be supported? >> >>> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is relevant, although >>> proprietary >>> - Microsoft Virtual PC is likely also needed >>> - Citrix XenServer? >> >> Would this require the Debi

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Luca Capello
Hi there! On Tue, 26 Jul 2011 00:46:47 +0200, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: >> I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official >> virtualisation images. While the Debian Events team mainly needs a BabelBox, it

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official > virtualisation images Yes, absolutely. These days having virtual images is yet another way of distributing an operating system and I think we should do t

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En cette matinée ensoleillée du mardi 26 juillet 2011, vers 09:28, Lucas Nussbaum disait : >> What virtualisation solutions should be supported? >> - Virtual Box seems like a natural candidate since it's free and >> included since Squeeze. >> - Vmware has a significant installed base and is

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Jon Dowland
On Tue, Jul 26, 2011 at 12:27:09AM +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > I think it's sufficient for starters to provide images for stable > (they can be updated for every few point updates if needed). > > What virtualisation solutions should be supported? As far as I understand it, a VM is usually t

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Olivier B.
Le 26/07/2011 09:28, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : On 26/07/11 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: Hi, I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs currently provided it allows a quicker evaluation/testing of Debian (and

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Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Olivier Bonvalet
Le 26/07/2011 09:28, Lucas Nussbaum a écrit : On 26/07/11 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: Hi, I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs currently provided it allows a quicker evaluation/testing of Debian (and

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Andrey Rahmatullin
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 11:46:47PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Anyway, qemu-img can convert a raw disk image > into many other formats. So you generate one raw image, and then > convert it to any other formats using qemu-img. Also, according to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virtual_disk_image#Vir

Re: Providing official virtualisation images of Debian

2011-07-26 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 26/07/11 at 00:27 +0200, Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > Hi, > I believe it's high time we start to providing Debian in form of official > virtualisation images. In contrast to the ISOs currently provided it > allows a quicker evaluation/testing of Debian (and can also be very > useful for testing (e