Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-03 Thread Martin Wuertele
* Thibaut Paumard [2011-08-04 07:43]: > I don't agree. When I install Debian on a laptop or workstation, I only > want what I need, and most of the time I don't want a SSH or FTP server. > But the day I need it, I install it and I want to use it right away to > connect to my personal account. I d

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-03 Thread Thibaut Paumard
Hi, Le 03/08/11 17:23, Wouter Verhelst a écrit : > On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 03:17:51PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: >> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:27:04PM +, Clint Adams wrote: >>> On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 05:38:43PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: I would be glad if all services (at le

Re: apt MD5Sum mismatch is due to multiple DNS queries!

2011-08-03 Thread Jonathan Wiltshire
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 05:24:59AM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > Gentlemen, junior programmer me has finally found the reason > behind apt's MD5Sum mismatchs: multiple DNS queries! > http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636292 Could you please refrain from spamming this list with

apt MD5Sum mismatch is due to multiple DNS queries!

2011-08-03 Thread jidanni
Gentlemen, junior programmer me has finally found the reason behind apt's MD5Sum mismatchs: multiple DNS queries! http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=636292 -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of "unsubscribe". Trouble? Contact listmas...

Re: autopkgtest / DEP8

2011-08-03 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Ian Jackson | Right. I think it can live in my git for a few weeks. My alioth | account name is "iwj". I've added you to the alioth project now. -- Tollef Fog Heen UNIX is user friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.de

Bug#636504: RFP: pcbsd-netmanager -- PC-BSD Network Manager

2011-08-03 Thread Robert Millan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist * Package name: pcbsd-netmanager * URL : see below * License : 3-clause BSD (with some MIT/X11 parts) Programming Lang: C++ (Qt) Description : PC-BSD Network Manager Graphical (Qt) Network Configuration utility of the PC-BSD project

Re: Making daemons compatible with systemd

2011-08-03 Thread Uoti Urpala
Ian Jackson chiark.greenend.org.uk> writes: > But I don't think it is a good idea to adopt a complicated workaround > (which is essentially what the cgroups approach is), to get proper > daemon supervision, when we can simply fix the root cause. This is a bit like saying that there's no need for

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-03 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Mon, Aug 01, 2011 at 03:17:51PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 08:27:04PM +, Clint Adams wrote: > > On Sun, Jul 31, 2011 at 05:38:43PM +0600, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > > > I would be glad if all services (at least network-enabled or especially > > > insecure for

Re: autopkgtest / DEP8

2011-08-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Stefano Zacchiroli writes ("Re: autopkgtest / DEP8"): > Indeed, it has been approved a few hours ago: > . But I didn't manage to > find your account on alioth, so I guess you'll have to wait a couple of > weeks (of vacation) before being added as an ad

Re: Minimal init [was: A few observations about systemd]

2011-08-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Steve Langasek writes ("Re: Minimal init [was: A few observations about systemd]"): > FWIW, I've gotten feedback from Samba upstream that the upstart job for smbd > in Ubuntu, which runs the daemon foregrounded, is concerning to them because > foreground mode hasn't been tested upstream in about a

Re: Making daemons compatible with systemd

2011-08-03 Thread Ian Jackson
Tollef Fog Heen writes ("Re: Making daemons compatible with systemd"): > I'm looking forward to your patches for the proprietary HP and Dell > daemons that are used for monitoring the health of various hardware > components. Those daemons can continue to be started and managed the way they are alr

Re: Minimal init

2011-08-03 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Konstantin Khomoutov | Doesn't exactly the same problem exist with "classic" daemons? | I mean, as soon as a daemon being started forked once, the parent | instance has no idea whether the forked instance actually managed to | complete initialization, and if it did then when. Unless some sort

Re: Minimal init [was: A few observations about systemd]

2011-08-03 Thread Konstantin Khomoutov
On Tue, 2 Aug 2011 15:45:51 -0700 Steve Langasek wrote: [...] > There's also the matter that if your daemon is being run in the > foreground, other services depend on it, and you're not using socket > activation, there's ambiguity as to when the service is actually > "started". A racy startup is

Re: [Pkg-xfce-devel] Bug#636108: lightdm: does not source ~/.profile

2011-08-03 Thread Andrei POPESCU
[Bcc'd all *dm maintainers and debian-x, in case they want to comment, apologize if you get this multiple times] Dear Debian Developers, Background: most common ways[1] of logging in to a Debian system involve executing or sourcing ~/.profile at some point, but not all of them. [1] tested gdm,

Re: A few observations about systemd

2011-08-03 Thread Philipp Kern
On 2011-08-02, Marco d'Itri wrote: > On Aug 02, Dmitry Nezhevenko wrote: >> Another example is dovecot-imapd. It's possible to use it in >> preauthenticated mode. In such case no system-wide daemon is required and >> mail client should just start imapd and talk with it using stdin/stdout. > Again

Bug#636445: ITP: genbackupdata -- generate test data sets for backup software

2011-08-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Lars Wirzenius * Package name: genbackupdata Version : 1.5 Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius * URL : http://braawi.org/genbackupdata/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : generate test data sets

Bug#636444: ITP: obnam -- online and disk-based backup application

2011-08-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Lars Wirzenius * Package name: obnam Version : 0.18 Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius * URL : http://braawi.org/obnam/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C, Python Description : online and disk-based backup applica

Bug#636443: ITP: python-ttystatus -- terminal progress bar and status output for Python

2011-08-03 Thread Lars Wirzenius
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Lars Wirzenius * Package name: python-ttystatus Version : 0.12 Upstream Author : Lars Wirzenius * URL : http://liw.fi/ttystatus/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: Python Description : terminal progress bar and st