Re: Status of circulars dependencies in unstable

2011-09-05 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Russ Allbery | Yeah, perl-modules really does depend on perl, in that the package is | actively broken and will break other things, not just merely unusable, | without it. Note that perl-modules has a ton of Provides, and something | depending on one of those provided modules without dependin

Re: Status of circulars dependencies in unstable

2011-09-05 Thread Russ Allbery
Raphael Hertzog writes: > On Mon, 05 Sep 2011, Josselin Mouette wrote: >> Le dimanche 04 septembre 2011 à 17:30 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : >>> I would like to see someone sort out what to do about perl and >>> perl-modules before Policy makes it a requirement. >> Is there anything special ab

Re: Status of circulars dependencies in unstable

2011-09-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le dimanche 04 septembre 2011 à 17:30 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > > I would like to see someone sort out what to do about perl and > > perl-modules before Policy makes it a requirement. > > Is there anything special about this case? It looks to m

Re: Status of circulars dependencies in unstable

2011-09-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Bill Allombert (03/09/2011): > I would like to thanks all the developpers that have worked toward > removing circular dependencies, and especially the X Strike Force and > the Debian Java maintainers. The X Strike Force would like to thank David Kalnischkies for his hints about getting X packages

Re: Status of circulars dependencies in unstable

2011-09-05 Thread Steffen Möller
On 09/05/2011 10:13 PM, Bill Allombert wrote: >> Le samedi 03 septembre 2011 à 11:54 +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit : >>> Today circular dependencies in unstable reached an all-time low, with >>> only 40 circular dependencies. >> >> I think it should now be clear that there aren’t any such issues t

Re: Hardening build flags release goal

2011-09-05 Thread Kees Cook
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 10:52:40AM +0200, Raphael Hertzog wrote: > we're not very far from having hardening build flags set by default by > dpkg-buildflags (waiting on some documentation update that Kees should > take care of). I'm about halfway through this. Just brushing up on my groff syntax. ;

Re: Status of circulars dependencies in unstable

2011-09-05 Thread Bill Allombert
> Le samedi 03 septembre 2011 à 11:54 +0200, Bill Allombert a écrit : > > Today circular dependencies in unstable reached an all-time low, with > > only 40 circular dependencies. > > I think it should now be clear that there aren’t any such issues that > cannot be fixed, with more or less complic

Re: Status of circulars dependencies in unstable

2011-09-05 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le dimanche 04 septembre 2011 à 17:30 -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit : > I would like to see someone sort out what to do about perl and > perl-modules before Policy makes it a requirement. Is there anything special about this case? It looks to me that the perl-modules→perl dependency just needs to b

Re: DEP5: proposed versioned url for Format: does not work

2011-09-05 Thread Cédric Boutillier
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 05:05:35PM +0200, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > I would recommend in the meantime to use a versioned URL of your > choosing. As I believe is documented - the specific URL should be only > an example. On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 05:56:25PM +0100, Lars Wirzenius wrote: > Until tha

Re: Hardening build flags release goal

2011-09-05 Thread Julien BLACHE
Raphael Hertzog wrote: Hi, > No idea, I have only integrated the work others have done in dpkg. I > have not studied how other compilers support the hardening compilation > flags. > > What are the compilers you're thinking of? Here specifically, Clang. More generally, at this point in time, a

Re: Hardening build flags release goal

2011-09-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Mon, 05 Sep 2011, Julien BLACHE wrote: > Cyril Brulebois wrote: > > Do we have a proper definition, and sample implementation(s) for “using > > dpkg-buildflags properly”? On the top of my hat, it looks like semantics > > and recommendations changed a bit over the years, so I kind of lost >

Re: Hardening build flags release goal

2011-09-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 05 Sep 2011, Cyril Brulebois wrote: > Do we have a proper definition, and sample implementation(s) for “using > dpkg-buildflags properly”? On the top of my hat, it looks like semantics > and recommendations changed a bit over the years, so I kind of lost > count. I'm going to prepare a "Bi

Re: Hardening build flags release goal

2011-09-05 Thread Julien BLACHE
Cyril Brulebois wrote: Hi, > Do we have a proper definition, and sample implementation(s) for “using > dpkg-buildflags properly”? On the top of my hat, it looks like semantics > and recommendations changed a bit over the years, so I kind of lost > count. On top of that, what's the story with re

Re: Hardening build flags release goal

2011-09-05 Thread Cyril Brulebois
Raphael Hertzog (05/09/2011): > I would like to find one or two persons to lead a new release goal > centered around hardening. The big goal is to have the maximum number of > packages using hardening by the time Wheezy is released but it could > include more specific sub-goals like "all packages

Re: Hardening build flags release goal

2011-09-05 Thread Michael Gilbert
On Mon, 5 Sep 2011 19:42:30 +0200 Moritz Mühlenhoff wrote: > Raphael Hertzog schrieb: > > Hello, > > > > we're not very far from having hardening build flags set by default by > > dpkg-buildflags (waiting on some documentation update that Kees should > > take care of). > > Thanks! > > > I would

Re: Hardening build flags release goal

2011-09-05 Thread Moritz Mühlenhoff
Raphael Hertzog schrieb: > Hello, > > we're not very far from having hardening build flags set by default by > dpkg-buildflags (waiting on some documentation update that Kees should > take care of). Thanks! > I would like to find one or two persons to lead a new release goal > centered around ha

RFC: Adding "Pre-Depends: libtinfo5" to libncurses5

2011-09-05 Thread Sven Joachim
Hi, as requested in bug #631592[1], we (ncurses maintainers) are going to split out a new library package named libtinfo5 from the ncurses source package and link both libncurses5 and libncursesw5 against that library. This raises a small problem for upgrades from previous libncurses5 versions: I

Re: DEP5: proposed versioned url for Format: does not work

2011-09-05 Thread Lars Wirzenius
On Mon, Sep 05, 2011 at 03:34:22PM +0200, Cédric Boutillier wrote: > This is a minor issue,but I would propose to change it to > http://svn.debian.org/viewvc/dep/web/deps/dep5.mdwn?revision=REVISION > if the Format field should point to a specific svn version of the > document. However, as far as

Re: DEP5: proposed versioned url for Format: does not work

2011-09-05 Thread David Given
Jonas Smedegaard wrote: [...] > I would recommend in the meantime to use a versioned URL of your > choosing. As I believe is documented - the specific URL should be only > an example. FWIW, I have recently tried to put together a DEP5 compliant copyright file for a package I'm working on. I say

Re: DEP5: proposed versioned url for Format: does not work

2011-09-05 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 11-09-05 at 03:34pm, Cédric Boutillier wrote: > The current version of DEP-5 encourages people to use versioned url > for the Format: Field, as far as I can see from the description of > this field, and the way the examples. > > However, using the proposed expression in the description of the

DEP5: proposed versioned url for Format: does not work

2011-09-05 Thread Cédric Boutillier
Hello, Please Cc: me, I am not subscribed to this list. The current version of DEP-5 encourages people to use versioned url for the Format: Field, as far as I can see from the description of this field, and the way the examples. However, using the proposed expression in the description of the Fo

Bug#640511: ITP: volview -- Advanced volume visualization tool

2011-09-05 Thread Mathieu Malaterre
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Mathieu Malaterre * Package name: volview Version : 3.4.0 Upstream Author : Kitware * URL : http://www.kitware.com/products/volview.html * License : BSD Programming Lang: C++ Description : Advanced volume visual

Hardening build flags release goal

2011-09-05 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hello, we're not very far from having hardening build flags set by default by dpkg-buildflags (waiting on some documentation update that Kees should take care of). I would like to find one or two persons to lead a new release goal centered around hardening. The big goal is to have the maximum num