Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory (Was: Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry)

2012-02-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mardi 31 janvier 2012 à 21:51 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit : > I agree that an automatic solution would be prefered. However, as long > as such someone does not stand up and write such a program removing > existing solutions is . The point is, no one will write such a program until we remove

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory (Was: Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry)

2012-02-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi Josselin, On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:29:46AM +0100, Josselin Mouette wrote: > Le mardi 31 janvier 2012 à 21:51 +0100, Andreas Tille a écrit : > > I agree that an automatic solution would be prefered. However, as long > > as such someone does not stand up and write such a program removing > >

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory

2012-02-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Tille writes: > Well, from my perspective I was bored the first time when xpdf came up > when I was expecting evince. After purging xpdf I learned that see does > not find any pdf viewer. Sorry if I did not realised any discussion > seven monthes ago noch any one-line helpers. > So wer

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mar., 2012-01-31 at 11:01 -0500, micah anderson wrote: > On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 22:26:50 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez > wrote: > > So I think it's perfectly clear that nor Debian nor Grsecurity are > > really interested in Debian shipping a Grsecurity kernel. > > Well, I don't think its fair to say

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory

2012-02-01 Thread Josselin Mouette
Le mercredi 01 février 2012 à 01:14 -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : > The description and nametemplate don't come from the same place. Those > come from /usr/share/mime/application/pdf.xml, and are the same for all > application/pdf entries. That, and also you have to take into account aliases (di

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Wouter Verhelst
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 10:24:40AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On mar., 2012-01-31 at 11:01 -0500, micah anderson wrote: > > What is stopping you from creating another package, that provides the > > kernel with grsecurity patches applied? Don't bother the kernel team > > with it, and just mai

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2012-02-01 at 10:34 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 10:24:40AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > On mar., 2012-01-31 at 11:01 -0500, micah anderson wrote: > > > What is stopping you from creating another package, that provides the > > > kernel with grsecurity patc

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory

2012-02-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Josselin Mouette writes: > Le mercredi 01 février 2012 à 01:14 -0800, Russ Allbery a écrit : >> The description and nametemplate don't come from the same place. Those >> come from /usr/share/mime/application/pdf.xml, and are the same for all >> application/pdf entries. > That, and also you hav

Re: Bulding cross-toolchains in the archive

2012-02-01 Thread Marcin Juszkiewicz
W dniu 31.01.2012 19:28, Wookey pisze: +++ DrEagle [2012-01-25 14:58 +0100]: What we need to accomplish is having a package to upload which will build cross-toolchains. The significant change from buildcross is that instead of using dpkg-cross to generate a libc6-dev-armel-cross package, it sh

essential and transitivly-essential

2012-02-01 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Steve Langasek [120131 20:53]: > Well, I would argue that packages in the essential set shouldn't be adding > new dependencies without some discussion and review on debian-devel first. > That's not technically required by policy, but pulling new packages into the > transitively-essential package

Bug#658234: ITP: meterec -- minimalistic multi track recoder

2012-02-01 Thread Alessio Treglia
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Alessio Treglia * Package name: meterec Version : 0.8 Upstream Author : Fabric Lebas * URL : http://meterec.sourceforge.net/ * License : GPL Programming Lang: C Description : minimalistic multi track recoder me

Re: lack of replacement for linux-vserver

2012-02-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2012-02-01 at 10:33 +0800, Paul Wise wrote: > On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 5:37 AM, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > > Just to be clear, 'that work' is not just a matter of forwarding > > messages back and forward between the Debian BTS and the Linux-VServer > > developers. Unless the VServer project

Re: Bug#658234: ITP: meterec -- minimalistic multi track recoder

2012-02-01 Thread Jonas Smedegaard
On 12-02-01 at 11:18am, Alessio Treglia wrote: > Package: wnpp > Severity: wishlist > Owner: Alessio Treglia > > * Package name: meterec > Version : 0.8 > Upstream Author : Fabric Lebas > * URL : http://meterec.sourceforge.net/ > * License : GPL > Programmin

Re: Bug#658234: ITP: meterec -- minimalistic multi track recoder

2012-02-01 Thread Alessio Treglia
Fixed in git, thanks! -- Alessio Treglia          | www.alessiotreglia.com Debian Developer         | ales...@debian.org Ubuntu Core Developer    | quadris...@ubuntu.com 0416 0004 A827 6E40 BB98 90FB E8A4 8AE5 311D 765A -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a s

Re: essential and transitivly-essential

2012-02-01 Thread Colin Watson
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:03:44AM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > It's also a pity that it is not that easy to see which packages are in > this set. Given that transitively-essential means: > > - the package must be unpackaged manually > - it must work without any preinst or postinst script bein

Re: lack of replacement for linux-vserver

2012-02-01 Thread Bernd Zeimetz
On 01/31/2012 10:37 PM, Ben Hutchings wrote: [...] > If anyone wishes to volunteer to maintain VServer in Debian - you are > very welcome, but please start by addressing the bugs filed against > them in squeeze and reviewing the existing conflicts. If you can > prove yourself by doing that, then y

Bug#658253: ITP: pylast -- Python interface to Last.fm and other compatible services

2012-02-01 Thread Simon Chopin
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Simon Chopin * Package name: pylast Version : 0.5.11 Upstream Author : Amr Hassan * URL : http://code.google.com/p/pylast/ * License : Apache-2.0 Programming Lang: Python Description : Python interface to Last.fm

Re: essential and transitivly-essential

2012-02-01 Thread Bernhard R. Link
* Colin Watson [120201 12:32]: > On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:03:44AM +0100, Bernhard R. Link wrote: > > It's also a pity that it is not that easy to see which packages are in > > this set. Given that transitively-essential means: > > > > - the package must be unpackaged manually > > - it must work

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 10:51 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On mer., 2012-02-01 at 10:34 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 10:24:40AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > > On mar., 2012-01-31 at 11:01 -0500, micah anderson wrote: > > > > What is stopping you from creating

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory

2012-02-01 Thread Andreas Tille
Hi, On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 01:51:17AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Josselin Mouette writes: > ... I confirm that I agree that we should prevent duplication of data which was stated in previous mails. > The main place that mailcap is richer than the desktop file that I can see > is that mailca

Re: Patch Tagging Guidelines: DEP-3 moved to ACCEPTED status

2012-02-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 09:12:16AM +, Lars Wirzenius a écrit : > > You're not the DEP5 driver Hi Lars and everybody, I am driving this DEP and re-listed myself at a driver to mark that fact. To summarise: - The original idea, from Sam Hocevar, was posted on this list on August 4, 2007.

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory

2012-02-01 Thread Michael Biebl
On 01.02.2012 16:03, Andreas Tille wrote: > Hi, > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 01:51:17AM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: >> The main place that mailcap is richer than the desktop file that I can see >> is that mailcap allows you to express the exact command line (including >> putting %s at different pla

DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Benjamin Drung
Hi, DEP-5 is nice, but how can I specify a license for a file with white spaces? For example you want to specify that the file "foo/file one.bar" is licensed under ISC, but "foo/file_one.bar" is licensed under GPL. How can you do that? I would like to write following: File: "foo/file one.bar" Li

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
On mer., 2012-02-01 at 14:32 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 10:51 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > On mer., 2012-02-01 at 10:34 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 10:24:40AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > > > On mar., 2012-01-31 at 11:01 -0500,

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Ben Hutchings
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 06:41:43PM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > On mer., 2012-02-01 at 14:32 +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > > On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 10:51 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > > On mer., 2012-02-01 at 10:34 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 10:24:40AM +

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread dann frazier
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 02:32:19PM +, Ben Hutchings wrote: > On Wed, 2012-02-01 at 10:51 +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > On mer., 2012-02-01 at 10:34 +0100, Wouter Verhelst wrote: > > > On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 10:24:40AM +0100, Yves-Alexis Perez wrote: > > > > On mar., 2012-01-31 at 11:01 -

Re: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Moritz Naumann
So there are obvious issues with LXC as a container solution for Linux, such as lacking actual containment (for the root user), which defeat sits purpose in production environments as a linux-vserver or OpenVZ replacement. However, a low profile container/virtualization solution is needed, and I

Bug#658287: ITP: pbs -- Python subprocess wrapper

2012-02-01 Thread Luca Falavigna
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Luca Falavigna * Package name: pbs Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Andrew Moffat * URL : https://github.com/amoffat/pbs * License : MIT Programming Lang: Python Description : Python subprocess wrapper PBS is a un

Bug#658292: general: can't configure Xorg in a new wheezy instalation

2012-02-01 Thread xavi
Package: general Severity: important Dear Maintainer, What led up to the situation? New instalation, I enter in Gnome3 and don't show correctly the desktop (can't read text nor icons) What exactly did you do (or not do) that was effective (or ineffective)? I tried to find xorg.config but don't e

Bug#658292: more info

2012-02-01 Thread Xavier Paniello
trynewconfiguration are the messages in terminal Xorg.0.log is the log of 'Xorg -configure' trynewconfiguration Description: Binary data [ 3394.918] X.Org X Server 1.11.3.901 (1.11.4 RC 1) Release Date: 2012-01-06 [ 3394.918] X Protocol Version 11, Revision 0 [ 3394.918] Build Operating System

Bug#658292: marked as done (general: can't configure Xorg in a new wheezy instalation)

2012-02-01 Thread Debian Bug Tracking System
Your message dated Wed, 1 Feb 2012 16:04:50 -0600 with message-id <20120201220449.GA29599@burratino> and subject line Re: general: can't configure Xorg in a new wheezy instalation has caused the Debian Bug report #658292, regarding general: can't configure Xorg in a new wheezy instalation to be mar

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory

2012-02-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Michael Biebl writes: > On 01.02.2012 16:03, Andreas Tille wrote: >> Assuming that Russ did not overlooked something this means that mailcap >> entries can not generatet from desktop files. So the one-liners >> mentioned by Josselin which might solve 50% of the task could not >> easily enhanced

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Benjamin Drung writes: > DEP-5 is nice, but how can I specify a license for a file with white > spaces? For example you want to specify that the file "foo/file one.bar" > is licensed under ISC, but "foo/file_one.bar" is licensed under GPL. How > can you do that? No, that distinction isn't repres

Bug#658300: ITP: libdigidoc -- C++ library for processing DDOC digital signatures (deprecated)

2012-02-01 Thread Guido Tabbernuk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guido Tabbernuk * Package name: libdigidoc Version : 2.7.0 Upstream Author : Kalev Lember & others * URL : http://code.google.com/p/esteid/ * License : LGPL 2.1 Programming Lang: C++ Description : C++ library fo

Bug#658302: ITP: libdigidocpp -- C++ library for processing BDOC digital signatures

2012-02-01 Thread Guido Tabbernuk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guido Tabbernuk * Package name: libdigidocpp Version : 0.3.0 Upstream Author : Kalev Lember & others * URL : http://code.google.com/p/esteid/ * License : LGPL 2.1 Programming Lang: C++ Description : C++ library

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Jakub Wilk
* Russ Allbery , 2012-02-01, 14:20: DEP-5 is nice, but how can I specify a license for a file with white spaces? For example you want to specify that the file "foo/file one.bar" is licensed under ISC, but "foo/file_one.bar" is licensed under GPL. How can you do that? No, that distinction isn'

Re: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 02/02/2012 03:37 AM, Moritz Naumann wrote: > So there are obvious issues with LXC as a container solution for Linux, such > as > lacking actual containment (for the root user), which defeat sits purpose in > production environments as a linux-vserver or OpenVZ replacement. > > However, a low p

Bug#658303: ITP: qesteidutil -- Estonian ID card management utility

2012-02-01 Thread Guido Tabbernuk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guido Tabbernuk * Package name: qesteidutil Version : 0.3.1 Upstream Author : Kalev Lember & others * URL : http://code.google.com/p/esteid/ * License : LGPL 2.1 Programming Lang: C++ Description : Estonian ID c

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Jakub Wilk writes: > This one is representable. You can take advantage of the fact the "the > last paragraph that matches a particular file applies to it": > | Files: foo/file?one.bar > | License: ISC > | > | Files: foo/file_one.bar > | License: GPL Oh, hey, yes, good point. -- Russ Allbery (

Bug#658304: ITP: qdigidoc -- QT-based Digidoc client

2012-02-01 Thread Guido Tabbernuk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guido Tabbernuk * Package name: qdigidoc Version : 0.4.0 Upstream Author : Kalev Lember & others * URL : http://code.google.com/p/esteid/ * License : LGPL 2.1 Programming Lang: C++ Description : QT-based Digidoc

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 01.02.2012, 14:20 -0800 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Benjamin Drung writes: > > > DEP-5 is nice, but how can I specify a license for a file with white > > spaces? For example you want to specify that the file "foo/file one.bar" > > is licensed under ISC, but "foo/file_one.bar" is lice

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory

2012-02-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 05:03:17PM +0100, Michael Biebl wrote: > > Tools like mutt, which need the extended mailcap syntax, can certainly > continue to ship a mime file. > > If a package ships both a desktop and a mime file, the conversion-tool > could simply skip the automatic generation of the

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 01.02.2012, 23:31 +0100 schrieb Jakub Wilk: > * Russ Allbery , 2012-02-01, 14:20: > >>DEP-5 is nice, but how can I specify a license for a file with white > >>spaces? For example you want to specify that the file "foo/file > >>one.bar" is licensed under ISC, but "foo/file_one.bar

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Benjamin Drung writes: > Is it to complex to have a syntax that is similar to what the shell > does? Two solutions pop into my mind. Please let me know, why these are > not use. You can point me to previous discussions. > Idea 1: Use a escape sequence for specifying a whitespace (e.g. "\ " for >

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory

2012-02-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Andreas Tille writes: > Could somebody please answer my implicite question why the mime files > are removed before such a conversion tool exists and thus shamelessly > are breaking applications that depend from it. Josselin did answer your question. To paraphrase my understanding of the answer:

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 01.02.2012, 14:49 -0800 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Benjamin Drung writes: > > > Is it to complex to have a syntax that is similar to what the shell > > does? Two solutions pop into my mind. Please let me know, why these are > > not use. You can point me to previous discussions. > >

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Russ Allbery
Benjamin Drung writes: > Am Mittwoch, den 01.02.2012, 14:49 -0800 schrieb Russ Allbery: >> Yeah, both of those were among the other syntax proposals that were >> suggested, and I think one of them was in the document at one point. >> Using backslash is probably the easiest, although it does make

Bug#658308: ITP: python-pbs -- Execute shell commands as python functions

2012-02-01 Thread Nick Moffitt
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Nick Moffitt Package name: python-pbs Version : 0.7 Upstream Author : Andrew Moffat URL : http://www.example.org/ License : MIT/X Programming Lang: Python Description : Execute shell commands as python fun

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Benjamin Drung
Am Mittwoch, den 01.02.2012, 14:56 -0800 schrieb Russ Allbery: > Benjamin Drung writes: > > Am Mittwoch, den 01.02.2012, 14:49 -0800 schrieb Russ Allbery: > > >> Yeah, both of those were among the other syntax proposals that were > >> suggested, and I think one of them was in the document at one

Bug#658309: ITP: esteid-browser-plugin -- Estonian ID card browser plugin

2012-02-01 Thread Guido Tabbernuk
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Guido Tabbernuk * Package name: esteid-browser-plugin Version : 1.3.2 Upstream Author : Kalev Lember & others * URL : http://code.google.com/p/esteid/ * License : LGPL 2.1 and/or BSD Programming Lang: C++ Descriptio

Re: DEP-5 and files with white spaces

2012-02-01 Thread Charles Plessy
Le Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 11:44:36PM +0100, Benjamin Drung a écrit : > > Is it to complex to have a syntax that is similar to what the shell > does? Two solutions pop into my mind. Please let me know, why these are > not use. You can point me to previous discussions. Hi Benjamin, You can refer to

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 2 Feb 2012, dann frazier wrote: > Whilte it may help the kernel team to not have to worry about problems > in the grsec flavor when preparing uploads, preventing delays for the > non-grsec images. But, that just pushes the coordination down a ways - > for stable updates we would need to ad

Re: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Russell Coker
On Thu, 2 Feb 2012, Moritz Naumann wrote: > So there are obvious issues with LXC as a container solution for Linux, > such as lacking actual containment (for the root user), which defeat sits > purpose in production environments as a linux-vserver or OpenVZ > replacement. > > However, a low prof

Re: Bug#657949: Cannot install libhdf5-mpi-dev and libnetcdf-dev

2012-02-01 Thread Steve M. Robbins
Hi, I'd like to contribute towards a solution for this. I'm forwarding to debian-devel to get some others' ideas. On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 09:57:39AM +0100, Sylvestre Ledru wrote: > Le mardi 31 janvier 2012 à 21:56 -0600, Steve M. Robbins a écrit : > > Naively, I don't understand why netcdf can

Re: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Marco d'Itri
On Feb 02, Russell Coker wrote: > Are there many users who need root containment but who won't have the > resources to run Xen or KVM when the support for Squeeze ends? Are there many users who like to waste resources (mostly RAM, here) for no good reason? -- ciao, Marco signature.asc Descri

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory (Was: Bug#658139: evince: missing mime entry)

2012-02-01 Thread Wookey
+++ Andreas Tille [2012-02-01 09:56 +0100]: > Hi Josselin, > > > To break such a chicken/egg circle, we > > needed either to write the program ourselves, or to simply drop support > > for the obsolete mime system. > > Somehow I missed an announcement that mime is obsolete and not supported > in D

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Kees de Jong
Perhaps you should contact Julien Tinnes of http://kernelsec.cr0.org/ He has been too busy to work on the kernels lately but maybe he wants to help. On do, 2012-02-02 at 12:18 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > On Thu, 2 Feb 2012, dann frazier wrote: > > Whilte it may help the kernel team to not

Re: Bug#605090: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Yves-Alexis Perez
> On do, 2012-02-02 at 12:18 +1100, Russell Coker wrote: > > On Thu, 2 Feb 2012, dann frazier wrote: > > > Whilte it may help the kernel team to not have to worry about problems > > > in the grsec flavor when preparing uploads, preventing delays for the > > > non-grsec images. But, that just push

Re: Breaking programs because a not yet implemented solution exists in theory

2012-02-01 Thread Andreas Tille
On Wed, Feb 01, 2012 at 02:52:22PM -0800, Russ Allbery wrote: > Josselin did answer your question. To paraphrase my understanding of the > answer: because he (they, probably, but he only spoke for himself) doesn't > want to maintain those files because they duplicate information stored in > anothe

Re: Linux 3.2 in wheezy

2012-02-01 Thread Jonathan Carter (highvoltage)
Hi Russell On 02/02/2012 03:21, Russell Coker wrote: However, a low profile container/virtualization solution is needed, and I know there is quite some demand for it: both some larger scale organisations and several smaller/non-profit organisations I am acquainted with use either OpenVZ or linux