Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Stéphane Glondu > Le 30/03/2012 08:18, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : > > I doubt you'll get upstreams to write metainit files. I think we'll > > have upstreams providing systemd files and so I think metainit will > > basically be #15 in http://xkcd.com/927/. > > Actually, it's more systemd that

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Vincent Bernat
OoO En ce milieu de nuit étoilée du vendredi 30 mars 2012, vers 03:54, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez disait : >> FWIW, I have a proposal for a GSoC task this year to write a >> systemd-to-initscript converter, >> http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2012/Projects#SysV-init_file_creator_from_systemd_

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Stéphane Glondu writes: > Le 30/03/2012 08:18, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : >> I doubt you'll get upstreams to write metainit files. I think we'll >> have upstreams providing systemd files and so I think metainit will >> basically be #15 in http://xkcd.com/927/. > Actually, it's more systemd that

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Salvo Tomaselli
> Well, wicd has its own bugs, such as preventing a laptop from > suspending. are you talking about a bug from 2008 that has been fixed for ages? https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/306210 -- Salvo Tomaselli -- To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org with a subject of

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Stéphane Glondu
Le 30/03/2012 08:18, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit : > I doubt you'll get upstreams to write metainit files. I think we'll > have upstreams providing systemd files and so I think metainit will > basically be #15 in http://xkcd.com/927/. Actually, it's more systemd that looks like #15. Cheers, -- St

Bug#666263: ITP: log4shib -- log4j-style configurable logging library for C++

2012-03-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Russ Allbery This ITP probably needs some additional discussion. log4shib is a fork of log4cpp (as described in the long description below) that is the recommended logging library for the Shibboleth web authentication project. Shibboleth is already packaged

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Tollef Fog Heen
]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez > On 20/03/12 07:14, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > > FWIW, I have a proposal for a GSoC task this year to write a > > systemd-to-initscript converter, > > http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2012/Projects#SysV-init_file_creator_from_systemd_service_files > > > > The syste

Re: dpkg-buildpackage now sets DEB_BUILD_HOST etc for you?

2012-03-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Wookey wrote: > > But you should not rely on this because calling debian/rules directly > > must be supported. > > Hmm, but if a package cannot use the variables set by > dpkg-buildpackage and must set them itself, what is the point of > dpkg-buildpackage setting them? To save

[OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-29 Thread Chris Knadle
On Thursday, March 29, 2012 04:09:57, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-03-29 02:43:33 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > $ sudo apt-get remove network-manager* > > $ sudo apt-get install wicd wicd-curses wicd-gtk > > > > ^ wicd-kde ? > > > > $ wic

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 20/03/12 07:14, Tollef Fog Heen wrote: > FWIW, I have a proposal for a GSoC task this year to write a > systemd-to-initscript converter, > http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2012/Projects#SysV-init_file_creator_from_systemd_service_files > > The systemd service files are covered by the «interfa

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 19/03/12 14:23, Jon Dowland wrote: >> I just had a look, and no, that's not what metainit does. >> > What it does is *generating* an init.d script, using the >> > metainit syntax as input. IMO, just a normal shell script >> > tiny library to simplify our init.d scripts would be enough. > So it d

Work-needing packages report for Mar 30, 2012

2012-03-29 Thread wnpp
The following is a listing of packages for which help has been requested through the WNPP (Work-Needing and Prospective Packages) system in the last week. Total number of orphaned packages: 432 (new: 2) Total number of packages offered up for adoption: 152 (new: 2) Total number of packages request

Bug#666242: ITP: clearwaita-theme -- Clearwaita theme for GTK+

2012-03-29 Thread Andrew Shadura
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Andrew Shadura * Package name: clearwaita-theme Upstream Author : Jean-Philippe Fleury * URL : http://www.jpfleury.net/en/software/clearwaita.php * License : GPL-3+ Description : Clearwaita theme for GTK+ Clearwaita is a GT

Bug#666229: ITP: igtf-policy-bundle -- IGTF profiles for Authority Root Certificates

2012-03-29 Thread Dennis van Dok
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Dennis van Dok * Package name: igtf-policy-bundle Version : 1.46 Upstream Author : David Groep * URL : http://www.igtf.net/ * License : Apache 2 Programming Lang: X.509 CA certificates Description : IGTF profiles

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Milan P. Stanic
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 13:07, Russ Allbery wrote: > Mike Hommey writes: > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:09:57AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > >> Well, wicd has its own bugs, such as preventing a laptop from > >> suspending. > Works for me; I've never had any trouble at all suspending my laptop and

Bug#666224: ITP: peg -- recursive-descent parser generators for C

2012-03-29 Thread Giulio Paci
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Giulio Paci * Package name: peg Version : 0.1.7 Upstream Author : Ian Piumarta * URL : http://piumarta.com/software/peg/ * License : MIT/X Programming Lang: C Description : recursive-descent parser generators for

Re: gconftool

2012-03-29 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 21:38 +0200, Philipp Kern wrote: > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13:55AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > > On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote: > > > This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or > > > general usage questions on debian-user. > > I don't

Re: dpkg-buildpackage now sets DEB_BUILD_HOST etc for you?

2012-03-29 Thread Wookey
+++ Raphael Hertzog [2012-03-29 21:06 +0200]: > Hi, > > On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Wookey wrote: > > Anyone know when this happened and what if any, the limitations are? > > It's certainly true in wheezy, squeeze, precise and oineiric. > > This has always been the case ever since dpkg-architecture has

Bug#664257: Email Id Awarded 750,000.00 GBP in Coca Cola Promo Prize. Provide Info for claims

2012-03-29 Thread CLINT HEAD
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Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Russ Allbery
Mike Hommey writes: > On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:09:57AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: >> Well, wicd has its own bugs, such as preventing a laptop from >> suspending. Works for me; I've never had any trouble at all suspending my laptop and I've been using wicd for years. (The laptop tracks unst

Re: dpkg-buildpackage now sets DEB_BUILD_HOST etc for you?

2012-03-29 Thread Julien Cristau
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 19:10:05 +0100, Wookey wrote: > Should a package depending on this behaviour build-dep on a particular > dpkg version? As it already works in build-essential in stable do the > same rules apply as essential packages in stable (i.e no explicit > dependency required)? That wo

Re: gconftool

2012-03-29 Thread Philipp Kern
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13:55AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote: > > This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or > > general usage questions on debian-user. > I don't see his rant against the gnome settings as > a "support issue" o

re: dpkg-buildpackage now sets DEB_BUILD_HOST etc for you?

2012-03-29 Thread peter green
Now, you can build packages without using dpkg-buildpackage by calling rules directly, and in that case the rules file would need to call dpkg-architecture, but someone would have to convince me that that was an interface worth supporting for non-native builds The big reason it's worth supporting

Re: dpkg-buildpackage now sets DEB_BUILD_HOST etc for you?

2012-03-29 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Hi, On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Wookey wrote: > Anyone know when this happened and what if any, the limitations are? > It's certainly true in wheezy, squeeze, precise and oineiric. This has always been the case ever since dpkg-architecture has been introduced. But you should not rely on this because c

Re: dpkg-buildpackage now sets DEB_BUILD_HOST etc for you?

2012-03-29 Thread Jonathan Nieder
Hi Wookey, Wookey wrote: > I recently noticed that when building with dpkg-buildpackage there is > no need for the > > DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE := $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) > DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE := $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) Don't you mean "?="? [...]

dpkg-buildpackage now sets DEB_BUILD_HOST etc for you?

2012-03-29 Thread Wookey
I recently noticed that when building with dpkg-buildpackage there is no need for the DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE := $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE) DEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE := $(shell dpkg-architecture -qDEB_HOST_GNU_TYPE) boilerplate in debian/rules You can just do the test: ifeq ($

Re: gconftool

2012-03-29 Thread David Weinehall
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13:55AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote: > On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote: > > This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or > > general usage questions on debian-user. > > > I don't see his rant against the gnome settings as > a "support i

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-29 Thread The Fungi
On 2012-03-29 11:15:30 +0100 (+0100), Philip Hands wrote: [...] > I'd only use either to make flipping between wireless networks something > where I don't need to keep the comandline incantations in my head [...] And indeed, I just "keep the commandline incantations in my head" for ifupdown, wirel

Re: gconftool

2012-03-29 Thread Thomas Goirand
On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote: > This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or > general usage questions on debian-user. > I don't see his rant against the gnome settings as a "support issue" or "general usage". By the way, I agree with him about the fact gnome

Bug#666194: ITP: librg-blast-parser-perl -- very fast NCBI BLAST parser - binding for perl

2012-03-29 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Laszlo Kajan * Package name: librg-blast-parser-perl Version : 0.02 Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan * URL : http://rostlab.org/ * License : Artistic Programming Lang: Perl Description : very fast NCBI BLAST parser

Bug#666193: ITP: librostlab-blast -- very fast C++ library for parsing NCBI BLAST output

2012-03-29 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Laszlo Kajan * Package name: librostlab-blast Version : 1.0.0 Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan * URL : http://rostlab.org/ * License : LGPL Programming Lang: C, C++ Description : very fast C++ library for parsing N

Bug#666192: ITP: librostlab -- C++ library from the Rost Lab

2012-03-29 Thread Laszlo Kajan
Package: wnpp Severity: wishlist Owner: Laszlo Kajan * Package name: librostlab Version : 1.0.20 Upstream Author : Laszlo Kajan * URL : http://rostlab.org/ * License : LGPL-3+ Programming Lang: C++ Description : C++ library from the Rost Lab The libr

Re: [OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-03-29 11:15:30 +0100, Philip Hands wrote: > I'd only use either to make flipping between wireless networks something > where I don't need to keep the comandline incantations in my head > anyway, so the last thing I need is NM noticing that I've plugged or > unplugged an ethernet cable, and

Re: test "/etc/init.d/MyPackage start" before shipping, please

2012-03-29 Thread Jon Dowland
On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:32:00AM +0800, jida...@jidanni.org wrote: > It doesn't matter who is to blame. > A simple /etc/init.d/... start test could catch such grave bugs before > they hit the user. > Who is to blame could be figured out internally. Of course it matters. If you don't understand

[OT] NM vs. wicd (was: Re: On init in Debian)

2012-03-29 Thread Philip Hands
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012 10:20:50 +0200, Mike Hommey wrote: ... > I could file bugs, but I have so many problems that I'm better off > switching to NM. Well, that's constructive -- well done. I think you'll find that there are two groups of users (at least), one that is relatively happy with the assu

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 10:09:57AM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: > On 2012-03-29 02:43:33 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > > $ sudo apt-get remove network-manager* > > $ sudo apt-get install wicd wicd-curses wicd-gtk > > ^ wicd-kde ? > > $ wicd-curs

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Vincent Lefevre
On 2012-03-29 02:43:33 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote: > $ sudo apt-get remove network-manager* > $ sudo apt-get install wicd wicd-curses wicd-gtk > ^ wicd-kde ? > $ wicd-curses > > And enjoy your network without the NM mess :) Well, wicd has its o

Re: On init in Debian

2012-03-29 Thread Svante Signell
On Thu, 2012-03-29 at 15:35 +0900, Miles Bader wrote: > Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez writes: > > $ sudo apt-get remove network-manager* > > $ sudo apt-get install wicd wicd-curses wicd-gtk > > ^ wicd-kde ? > > $ wicd-curses > > > > And enjoy your network witho