On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Wookey wrote:
But you should not rely on this because calling debian/rules directly
must be supported.
Hmm, but if a package cannot use the variables set by
dpkg-buildpackage and must set them itself, what is the point of
dpkg-buildpackage setting them? To save the
]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 20/03/12 07:14, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
FWIW, I have a proposal for a GSoC task this year to write a
systemd-to-initscript converter,
http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2012/Projects#SysV-init_file_creator_from_systemd_service_files
The systemd service
Package: wnpp
Severity: wishlist
Owner: Russ Allbery r...@debian.org
This ITP probably needs some additional discussion. log4shib is a fork
of log4cpp (as described in the long description below) that is the
recommended logging library for the Shibboleth web authentication project.
Shibboleth is
Le 30/03/2012 08:18, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
I doubt you'll get upstreams to write metainit files. I think we'll
have upstreams providing systemd files and so I think metainit will
basically be #15 in http://xkcd.com/927/.
Actually, it's more systemd that looks like #15.
Cheers,
--
Well, wicd has its own bugs, such as preventing a laptop from
suspending.
are you talking about a bug from 2008 that has been fixed for ages?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/306210
--
Salvo Tomaselli
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To UNSUBSCRIBE, email to debian-devel-requ...@lists.debian.org
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Stéphane Glondu glo...@debian.org writes:
Le 30/03/2012 08:18, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
I doubt you'll get upstreams to write metainit files. I think we'll
have upstreams providing systemd files and so I think metainit will
basically be #15 in http://xkcd.com/927/.
Actually, it's more
OoO En ce milieu de nuit étoilée du vendredi 30 mars 2012, vers 03:54,
Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez clo...@igalia.com disait :
FWIW, I have a proposal for a GSoC task this year to write a
systemd-to-initscript converter,
]] Stéphane Glondu
Le 30/03/2012 08:18, Tollef Fog Heen a écrit :
I doubt you'll get upstreams to write metainit files. I think we'll
have upstreams providing systemd files and so I think metainit will
basically be #15 in http://xkcd.com/927/.
Actually, it's more systemd that looks
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012 08:06:56 +0200
Raphael Hertzog hert...@debian.org wrote:
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Wookey wrote:
Well, perhaps I shouldn't (and indeed I'd like us to get to a point
where we don't), but currently, in practice, non-native builds need
other things setting in the environment
Hi Folks,
I'm looking for a Standard C Library compliance test suite. I'd prefer
an open source one, preferably with a license more liberal than GPL,
e.g. BSD or MIT, which is why I can't just use the tests in the glibc
sources.
Can anyone suggest projects that I should look at?
--
Regards
Russ Allbery, le Thu 29 Mar 2012 23:41:40 -0700, a écrit :
systemd's goal wasn't to become a standard that supported things
people were already doing.
There must be a misunderstanding somewhere, then, and that needs further
explanation: the feature comparison page produced by Lenhart says
On 03/30/2012 03:38 AM, Philipp Kern wrote:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 12:13:55AM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 03/24/2012 07:17 AM, Michael Banck wrote:
This is a development list, please discuss user support issues or
general usage questions on debian-user.
I don't see his rant against the
On 2012-03-29 13:07:56 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Well, it seems like you should file bugs if you can, because a lot of
these are not universal problems and therefore probably aren't known
issues.
I did several months ago:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=637267
On 2012-03-29 23:23:52 -0400, Chris Knadle wrote:
On Thursday, March 29, 2012 04:09:57, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
Well, wicd has its own bugs, such as preventing a laptop from
suspending.
Hmm. That sucks. I'd like to debug why you're running into this. However
I've been using wicd for
On 2012-03-30 08:39:38 +0200, Salvo Tomaselli wrote:
Well, wicd has its own bugs, such as preventing a laptop from
suspending.
are you talking about a bug from 2008 that has been fixed for ages?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/wicd/+bug/306210
No, this is not the same bug (in my case, wicd is
Andrei POPESCU andreimpope...@gmail.com writes:
On Ma, 27 mar 12, 08:36:58, David Banks wrote:
In the specific case of mosh, I have posted three RFS messages to
debian-mentors since filing the ITP, in addition to the creation of the
RFS bug after the sponsorship-requests procedure was
Ansgar Burchardt ans...@debian.org writes:
Jean-Christophe Dubacq jcduba...@free.fr writes:
What about a dev. script that would be run in debian/ and would parse
debian/control and send the ITP? I can write that!
Yes please.
The Perl group already has a script that does this:
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes:
On 27/03/12 17:09, Filipus Klutiero wrote:
So what do others think?
I think that we need to separate the notion of a debian desktop from
the GNOME or KDE desktops. Synaptic is probably quite rightly not
part of either, but I agree that a default desktop
Wookey woo...@wookware.org writes:
+++ Raphael Hertzog [2012-03-29 21:06 +0200]:
Hi,
On Thu, 29 Mar 2012, Wookey wrote:
Anyone know when this happened and what if any, the limitations are?
It's certainly true in wheezy, squeeze, precise and oineiric.
This has always been the case
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:30:37PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Shouldn't there rather be a base-desktop that both KDE-desktop and
GNOME-desktop depend on? A meta package that depends on everything any
desktop should have.
I'm not sure if that's the right direction of dependency,
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 09:58:41PM +0200, Julien Cristau wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2012 at 19:10:05 +0100, Wookey wrote:
Should a package depending on this behaviour build-dep on a particular
dpkg version? As it already works in build-essential in stable do the
same rules apply as essential
On Mar 30, 2012 8:40 AM, Goswin von Brederlow goswin-...@web.de wrote:
Hopefully dpkg-buildpackage will stop setting those varibales at some
point so sources that wrongfully depend on the variables being set
actualy break.
Already happened in version 1.16.1 (#560070).
On Fri, 30 Mar 2012, Neil Williams wrote:
Honestly I have never seen anyone doing cross-builds and calling
debian/rules manually.
... only because it *always* fails
I have longed for such support myself at times. It is incredibly
frustrating to see a cross-build fail 90% of the way
+++ peter green [2012-03-29 20:06 +0100]:
Now, you can build packages without using dpkg-buildpackage by calling
rules directly, and in that case the rules file would need to call
dpkg-architecture, but someone would have to convince me that that was
an interface worth supporting for
]] Samuel Thibault
The maintenance of systemd is actually quite the opposite of a standard.
That sentence is quite frightening.
Is it? It's not like the maintenance of the kernel, KDE or GNOME is
done in the manner you maintain a standard. Heck, probably just about
no software in Debian
+++ Neil Williams [2012-03-26 09:17 +0100]:
Therefore packaging takes no time at all, it is always fully complete
before the code itself is even worth evaluating as useful to Debian.
The packaging is part of my test harness.
You are only looking at this from the upstream's point of view. Most
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:39:17PM +0100, Wookey wrote:
If an ITP remains open without comment for
more than a month, the chances that there will ever be an upload to
close it are close to zero.
That may be true in an 'averages' sense, but there are old open ITPs
with a lot of work
Package: wnpp
Owner: YOSHIDA Tomohiro tomoh...@sep.email.ne.jp
Severity: wishlist
* Package name: sdic-inline-el
Version : 0.4.5.1
Upstream Author : khiker khiker.mail+el...@gmail.com
* URL or Web page : http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/sdic-inline.el
* License : GPL3
On 30/03/12 08:18, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
On 20/03/12 07:14, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
FWIW, I have a proposal for a GSoC task this year to write a
systemd-to-initscript converter,
Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery, le Thu 29 Mar 2012 23:41:40 -0700, a écrit :
It's focused on being clean, supportable, and fully integrated with
Linux capabilities, *not* to solving everyone's use case, even to the
detriment of being universal.
So that directly
On 30/03/12 12:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
I don't know what's going on exactly, but from the logs, it seems
that when suspending, the connection is ended (as expected), but
then, wicd tries to reconnect, and this may interrupt the suspend.
Check that you don't have GLAN/WLAN or something like
Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net writes:
On 2012-03-29 13:07:56 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Well, it seems like you should file bugs if you can, because a lot of
these are not universal problems and therefore probably aren't known
issues.
I did several months ago:
]] Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez
Hi,
What you think about extending this GSoC project to also implement the
translation from systemd unit files to upstart ones? it is worth ?
My interest in translating systemd units to sysvinit scripts is because
it'll enable us to have higher-quality init
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 14:08:33 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
Would there not be some advantage to making dpkg-buildpackge the
interface for building? (Not dropping the debian/rules interface,
of course.) This would permit the automatic setting of all the
host- and build-related variables
Wookey woo...@wookware.org writes:
+++ Neil Williams [2012-03-26 09:17 +0100]:
Therefore packaging takes no time at all, it is always fully complete
before the code itself is even worth evaluating as useful to Debian.
The packaging is part of my test harness.
You are only looking at this
Jon Dowland j...@debian.org writes:
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 02:30:37PM +0200, Goswin von Brederlow wrote:
Shouldn't there rather be a base-desktop that both KDE-desktop and
GNOME-desktop depend on? A meta package that depends on everything any
desktop should have.
I'm not sure if that's the
Tollef Fog Heen, le Fri 30 Mar 2012 15:40:55 +0200, a écrit :
The maintenance of systemd is actually quite the opposite of a standard.
That sentence is quite frightening.
Is it? It's not like the maintenance of the kernel, KDE or GNOME is
done in the manner you maintain a standard.
Russ Allbery, le Fri 30 Mar 2012 10:41:05 -0700, a écrit :
Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org writes:
Russ Allbery, le Thu 29 Mar 2012 23:41:40 -0700, a écrit :
It's focused on being clean, supportable, and fully integrated with
Linux capabilities, *not* to solving everyone's use case,
On Sat, Mar 31, 2012 at 12:18:20AM +0200, Samuel Thibault wrote:
If it's *not* for solving everyone's use case, then it's not good for
making it a default init implementation.
You cannot ever solve everyone's use cases. What systemd (and upstart)
aim to do is to solve all use cases that
Samuel Thibault sthiba...@debian.org writes:
It is apparently trying to be a *Linux* standard, being adopted by all
distributions.
That's not at all clear to me. It seems more to be trying to be a good
init system used by Fedora, and beyond that it's left to people to make up
their own minds,
On 2012-03-30 19:43:48 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
On 30/03/12 12:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
I don't know what's going on exactly, but from the logs, it seems
that when suspending, the connection is ended (as expected), but
then, wicd tries to reconnect, and this may interrupt
On 2012-03-30 10:44:07 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Vincent Lefevre vinc...@vinc17.net writes:
On 2012-03-29 13:07:56 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
Well, it seems like you should file bugs if you can, because a lot of
these are not universal problems and therefore probably aren't known
Hi I'm not a DD but ...
I thought on Gnu site if you get and compile the compiler it already has a test suite, for C anyway
(i have not tried it personally).
Peter Miller wrote:
Hi Folks,
I'm looking for a Standard C Library compliance test suite. I'd prefer
an open source one,
On 2012-03-31 01:16:42 +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2012-03-30 10:44:07 -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:
I don't think your diagnosis of this is correct, in that I don't think
wicd is what's doing this. I was getting things like that with Network
Manager as well, and usually rebooting my
Hi,
On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 7:17 PM, John D. Hendrickson and Sara Darnell
johnandsa...@cox.net wrote:
I thought on Gnu site if you get and compile the compiler it already has a
test suite, for C anyway (i have not tried it personally).
He mentions in the message that he's looking for one
On 31/03/12 01:03, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
On 2012-03-30 19:43:48 +0200, Carlos Alberto Lopez Perez wrote:
On 30/03/12 12:29, Vincent Lefevre wrote:
I don't know what's going on exactly, but from the logs, it seems
that when suspending, the connection is ended (as expected), but
then, wicd
Package: wnpp
Severity: normal
I've just orphaned svgalib by uploading 1.4.x and 1.9.x packages with
pending changes to unstable and experimental. I recently contacted
upstream to send patches back, but was offered taking over upstream
maintainership instead because he is not interested in it
On Fri, 2012-03-30 at 20:02 +1100, Peter Miller wrote:
I'm looking for a Standard C Library compliance test suite. I'd prefer
an open source one, preferably with a license more liberal than GPL,
e.g. BSD or MIT, which is why I can't just use the tests in the glibc
sources.
newlib, used by
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