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Uoti Urpala uoti.urp...@pp1.inet.fi wrote:
George Danchev wrote:
[...]
For some reason or another the vast majority of applications have
not been following this approach. I'm not going to argue whether is
makes sense or not.
The reason why most old applications do not follow that approach
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On 05/12/2012 01:34 AM, Jean-Christophe Dubacq wrote:
I think it would be really great to have some program being able to
output all manual differences to all /etc files really useful for
maintenance. I used to do that, but some rapidly evolving configuration
files make it quickly
On 05/12/2012 03:19 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
The solution, however, is very simple: wrap dpkg calls, and have a list
of files to watch for. Whenever a package touches a file that's on the
list, fire a trigger, that can run a hook. Said hook can be something
provided by etckeeper or similar,
On 05/12/2012 03:19 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
It's perfectly able to notice changes
in /lib/systemd too, or pretty much anywhere else.
I thought these were only default which we shouldn't
have to care about?!? :)
Thomas
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On 05/12/2012 03:29 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
It's not etc-overrides-lib that is the problem. It's defaults changing
without notice that is.
Then, let me ask this:
Do you expect that systemd's default in /lib will change often?
By the way, I finally found the time to try systemd, and I was
On 05/11/2012 05:07 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
I'll turn this around: how do you handle cases where the defaults of
packages like apt, exim or syslogd change? Where the defaults are
embedded in the executable.
The thing is, if you put the default in a file, it's because you
expect these to
Hey all,
A lot of daemon packages in Debian nowadays create their own user and groups
during installation. Usually this also implies that a couple of files and
directories are created, and then chmodded and chowned to some appropriate
value for the service in question.
In some cases[1], this
Le Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:23:49PM +0200, Peter Palfrader a écrit :
In some cases[1], this chmodding and chowning is done on each package upgrade,
either because things changed over time and just doing it unconditionally
seems
like the easiest thing, or just because hey, it doesn't hurt,
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
On 05/12/2012 03:29 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
It's not etc-overrides-lib that is the problem. It's defaults changing
without notice that is.
Then, let me ask this:
Do you expect that systemd's default in /lib will change often?
Nope.
The only thing is
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
On 05/12/2012 03:19 AM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
It's perfectly able to notice changes
in /lib/systemd too, or pretty much anywhere else.
I thought these were only default which we shouldn't
have to care about?!? :)
You don't change defaults, but if you
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:21:03PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
By the way, I finally found the time to try systemd, and I was
shocked to see how fast it booted! :)
The only thing is that I had no clue what started: nothing were
prompted on my screen. Is there a way to have it more verbose?
On 12.05.2012 11:21, Thomas Goirand wrote:
By the way, I finally found the time to try systemd, and I was
shocked to see how fast it booted! :)
The only thing is that I had no clue what started: nothing were
prompted on my screen. Is there a way to have it more verbose?
1/ Remove quiet from
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:23:49PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
A lot of daemon packages in Debian nowadays create their own user and groups
during installation. Usually this also implies that a couple of files and
directories are created, and then chmodded and chowned to some appropriate
On 2012-05-12 13:10 +0200, Charles Plessy wrote:
I was always wondering:
Unless we expect that two different binary packages that can be co-installed
will distribute the same directory under different ownership or permissions
for
a good reason, why not simply let dpkg apply ownership and
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:25:57PM +0800, Thomas Goirand wrote:
On 05/11/2012 05:07 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
I'll turn this around: how do you handle cases where the defaults of
packages like apt, exim or syslogd change? Where the defaults are
embedded in the executable.
The thing is,
On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 09:07:57AM +0200, Tollef Fog Heen wrote:
]] Steve Langasek
My complaint is that this is excessively ugly. For persistent variable data
that needs to be available during early boot, even when this is binary data
that the user won't edit, /etc is the normal place
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 12:28:27 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:23:49PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
A lot of daemon packages in Debian nowadays create their own user and groups
during installation. Usually this also implies that a couple of files and
directories are
On 20.04.2012 17:16, Dmitry Nezhevenko wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:50:24AM -0700, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
You can package a modern pylucene and take over as the maintainer.
Nothing
would make me happier.
Thanks a lot! I'll try to do this
Any news on that? I'm looking at old FTBFS
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 03:04:31PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 02:54:16PM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 07:43:46PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
Currently it creates files in the directory /etc/console-setup. As
a result when the package is
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 03:00:11PM +0100, Adam D. Barratt wrote:
On 20.04.2012 17:16, Dmitry Nezhevenko wrote:
On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 08:50:24AM -0700, Jeff Breidenbach wrote:
You can package a modern pylucene and take over as the
maintainer. Nothing
would make me happier.
Thanks a lot!
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Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org writes:
On 05/11/2012 05:07 PM, Gergely Nagy wrote:
I'll turn this around: how do you handle cases where the defaults of
packages like apt, exim or syslogd change? Where the defaults are
embedded in the executable.
The thing is, if you put the default in a
Le samedi 12 mai 2012 04:25:08, Russ Allbery a écrit :
Michael Gilbert michael.s.gilb...@gmail.com writes:
So, I think [0] is the most astute message in that thread.
[0] http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2000/11/msg00251.html
I thought that too when I first read it, but later in the
Hey folks,
Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying
to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what
we're going to *claim* to support in Wheezy. We've had a history of
supporting the following single-CD installations:
* Gnome desktop from CD#1
Hi,
Problem is solved. Thanks a lot to Pino Toscano.
Regards,
Boris
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On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:01:20AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
No, you absolutely do *not* need this. The policy rule isn't on purge,
remove all config files if the admin hasn't edited them, it's on purge,
remove *all configuration files*.
All configuration files owned by the package.
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 05:04:16PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Hey folks,
Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying
to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what
we're going to *claim* to support in Wheezy. We've had a history of
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On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:33:49PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
Unlike last August when we had that discussion, neither debootstrap nor d-i
have any problems with xz anymore.
For udebs it will come after alpha 1.
Kind regards
Philipp Kern
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On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 08:07:13PM +0200, Philipp Kern wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:33:49PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote:
Unlike last August when we had that discussion, neither debootstrap nor d-i
have any problems with xz anymore.
For udebs it will come after alpha 1.
Regular debs
On 05/12/2012 10:02 PM, Nikolaus Rath wrote:
The advantage of having the defaults in a file is that it makes it much
easier to inspect them. A .h file would typically not be installed, so
it wouldn't be readily available. In addition to that, it is much less
expressive. The nice thing about
OoO Pendant le journal télévisé du samedi 12 mai 2012, vers 20:58,
Thomas Goirand z...@debian.org disait :
The advantage of having the defaults in a file is that it makes it much
easier to inspect them. A .h file would typically not be installed, so
it wouldn't be readily available. In
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 08:04:15PM +0300, Anton Zinoviev wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:01:20AM -0700, Steve Langasek wrote:
No, you absolutely do *not* need this. The policy rule isn't on purge,
remove all config files if the admin hasn't edited them, it's on purge,
remove *all
Steve McIntyre st...@einval.com writes:
At this point, I'm skeptical that either of the first two are going to
work acceptably with Wheezy. If that's the case, then we should warn
people that they will need to use at least one of:
I agree. I tried installing debian gnome desktop from CD1
Thomas Preud'homme robo...@celest.fr writes:
Are you referring to [1]? Because the full paragraph is about Program's
source code.
[1] http://lists.debian.org/debian-policy/2000/11/msg00260.html
1. You may copy and distribute verbatim copies of the Program's source
code as you receive it,
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
Unless we expect that two different binary packages that can be
co-installed will distribute the same directory under different
ownership or permissions for a good reason, why not simply let dpkg
apply ownership and permissions found in
On May 12, Adam Borowski kilob...@angband.pl wrote:
Thus, let's just switch dpkg-deb's default to xz. Lowering bandwidth usage
is worth the extra build time cost.
Agreed, this looks like a good idea.
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Marco
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On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 03:55:24PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 12:28:27 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 12:23:49PM +0200, Peter Palfrader wrote:
With the above approach, the only hard question is how to set the
ownership during the package build.
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Hi,
although I think the wordpress maintainer are doing all they can do to keep
wordpress in a good shape in Debian, I do not think that it is possible
Le Sat, May 12, 2012 at 07:33:49PM +0200, Adam Borowski a écrit :
There is an easy solution: switch binary packages to xz compression.
amd64's CD 1 is reduced to 2/3 of its current size (data from June(?) 2010).
If you remember, I also did some research for the whole archive:
Thread:
Hi,
Anton Zinoviev wrote (12 May 2012 12:04:31 GMT) :
Yves-Alexis Perez wrote on debian-devel:
What do you mean with “this doesn't work in Debian”? Some people do use
encrypted root and they do have a working console asking for the
passphrase.
As far as I know currently the console works
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 17:04:16 +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote:
Remembering the fun that we had during the Squeeze release with trying
to make single-CD installations work well, it's time to consider what
we're going to *claim* to support in Wheezy. We've had a history of
supporting the following
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 22:47:22 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 03:55:24PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
One option would be to make dpkg-deb use an internal tar implementation,
and add a file describing the attributes of the to be packaged files.
That might make needing root
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 02:10:13AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
On Sat, 2012-05-12 at 22:47:22 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Sat, May 12, 2012 at 03:55:24PM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
One option would be to make dpkg-deb use an internal tar implementation,
and add a file describing the
Le Sat, May 12, 2012 at 02:06:16PM -0700, Russ Allbery a écrit :
Usually because the UID is dynamically assigned and the user is created in
the postinst, so there's no way for dpkg do do this at unpack.
You would need to apply permissions by name, not UID/GID, and you would
need to create
On Sun, 2012-05-13 at 01:17:35 +0100, Roger Leigh wrote:
On Sun, May 13, 2012 at 02:10:13AM +0200, Guillem Jover wrote:
This would imply BSD tar needs to be promoted to the Essential set
alongside GNU tar, at which point I might as well just use an
internal tar implementation.
Won't this
Charles Plessy ple...@debian.org writes:
in some of my packages, I give the ownership on some directories in /var
to www-data without checking that the www-data group exists, but I guess
it is acceptable because it is globally allocated by base-passwd.
Right.
Dpkg will not update
On Sun, 13 May 2012, Bernd Zeimetz be...@bzed.de wrote:
Being forced to upgrade to a new major version by a stable security support
is nothing we should force our users to. Debian stable is known for
(usually) painfree updates and bugfixes only, not for shipping completely
new versions with a
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